I Need A Good Trucking Company To Go Where They Do Not Lie To You HELP !

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Squidly66's Comment
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I started working for Trans am , they really press you to sign the lease, yes I did. I fell for it. Three weeks into it I am not seeing what was promised, I have been averaging close to 3000 miles a week, no tickets, no accidents. Is there any other place I can go, or is it a requirement by companies to lie and let you dig a hole for yourself while you pay their bills. Dispatch is no good , or either planners , i am not sure , but i want a job that pays for workers that work. Please help.....

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Great Answer!
I have lost 1 day already because I had to fix a truck I have only had 2 weeks, another day today because,well, we just don't have any loads for you until tomorrow. Can you understand how this might look in the eyes of a new guy ???

There are a ton of ups and downs in trucking. They certainly won't always have freight available and the truck will break down from time to time, even a new one. In fact, I would rather get in a truck with about 50,000 miles on it than get a new one out of the factory because they tend to be a bit buggy in the very beginning.

What they do not tell you is, you can not make the money they promise unless you are a trainer, and you have Consistent loads

Well you said you're getting 3,000 miles per week so that's about as good as it gets for anyone running solo. But you're right, a lot of lease drivers take students with them and run team to make those payments and put some money in their pockets.

Some people here do exhibit a knee-jerk reaction to take the company side... Even when that company is engaging in something as shady as pushing new drivers into lease deals.

There's no other way to interpret that. That was certainly yet another jab by the all-knowing Indy who never does anything except criticize us for saying you shouldn't lease a truck, even when our point is being demonstrated. But this seems to be a new type of criticism. Usually we're ignorant for saying you shouldn't lease a truck from a company but now apparently we're "on The Man's side" because we're somehow "taking the side" of shady companies? No matter what we say Indy doesn't like it.

We might debate his suggestions in return if he ever actually tried offering anyone a helpful solution to their challenges but it's the same pattern every time - someone comes here looking for advice, we offer our best, Indy doesn't like it and criticizes it but offers nothing of value. I just told him a couple of weeks ago to take a hike and stop posting in this forum because he's never done anything except take shots at everyone but he can't help himself apparently. That's just who he is. People with nothing of value to offer only really have one option - try to make everyone else look bad. It's far from a new strategy.

Squidly66, you never said if they would let you out of that lease or not, or what the financial ramifications might be. I've heard Prime will allow you to walk away from a lease under certain circumstances but I don't know anything about Trans Am's program. If you can get out of that lease and get onto the company side, even at a small loss, it's probably worth doing.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Indy's Comment
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Great Answer!

Squidly is in a bind... It's unfortunate that he didn't find this site sooner and heed it's advice about staying away from leasing, but what's done is done... Pat's scolding was completely unhelpful, ... that's why I responded. Regarding the subject of leasing and my comments in the past... I have been trying to get to the "truth" of the matter. On the one hand, there is this site's clearly stated stance (which I have been swayed to believe), then there is all of these companies telling drivers something completely opposite. If these companies are pressuring new drivers to sign on to leases that the company knows full well will end in financial disaster for most of these drivers, what does that say about those companies? This is not some general paranoia about "the Man" as realist suggested.

And, you exaggerate when you say that all I do is criticize your site. I have said more than once here how much I appreciate and have benefited from it. And, I have promoted your site at other websites, and when I was in school I referred other students here. But, I don't like the heavy-handed way in which you deal with those that disagree with you... You're a little quick to start in with the ridicule and name calling when it happens... and then the delete button. But, I still like your site, and continued to read here every day... even though you told me to take a hike (I'd probably of done the same if it were my site)... and, I've tried to hold my tongue... which I've done for the most part... even on the " you snooze, you lose" thread ... and, there was a lot I wanted to say about that...

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Brett Aquila's Comment
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I started working for Trans am , they really press you to sign the lease, yes I did. I fell for it. Three weeks into it I am not seeing what was promised, I have been averaging close to 3000 miles a week, no tickets, no accidents. Is there any other place I can go, or is it a requirement by companies to lie and let you dig a hole for yourself while you pay their bills. Dispatch is no good , or either planners , i am not sure , but i want a job that pays for workers that work. Please help.....

Well the first question is can you get out of the lease without losing your financial life in the process? Maybe they'll just let you be a company driver instead?

Squidly66's Comment
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I started working for Trans am , they really press you to sign the lease, yes I did. I fell for it. Three weeks into it I am not seeing what was promised, I have been averaging close to 3000 miles a week, no tickets, no accidents. Is there any other place I can go, or is it a requirement by companies to lie and let you dig a hole for yourself while you pay their bills. Dispatch is no good , or either planners , i am not sure , but i want a job that pays for workers that work. Please help.....

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Well the first question is can you get out of the lease without losing your financial life in the process? Maybe they'll just let you be a company driver instead?

they say give them 2 weeks notice, they do not like to let you go company after they get you to sign a lease.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Well every company that offers a lease would rather have lease drivers than company drivers. When they say to give them two weeks notice, does that mean if you want to quit leasing and become a company driver or are you saying they're telling you to quit?

Ernie S. (AKA Old Salty D's Comment
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Just realize that if it is anything like the Prime lease program, if you owe money (negative earnings) you are still responsible for the money. So I would recommend you find out about ending your lease early what you are responsible for in the way of payments/money owed.

Ernie

WarVenum's Comment
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Might be wrong time to ask but can someone explain lease vs company?

Robert B. (The Dragon) ye's Comment
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Might be wrong time to ask but can someone explain lease vs company?

Never a bad time to ask. I'm pretty sure Brett has an article on here explaining the inns and outs, I know it's a topic that's been mentioned several times but in a nutshell here it is.

As a company driver, you drive the truck. The company makes the payment, insurance, pays for permits and fuel, taxes and maintenance. You as a driver, show up on time for your loads, take it in for service intervals and call breakdown when something goes wrong.

As a lease operator, the company books your loads.

You take care of everything else.

Pat M.'s Comment
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It sounds like you did no research before signing the lease. Bad on your part.

As far as the lying to you.... You must be young because any company that is trying to sell you on something will give you the best case scenario. That is not technically lying because you do have the ability to achieve those numbers but most do not.

This seems to be another case of "I screwed up and it is the companies fault" type of post. The blame for the issue resides squarely on your shoulders for this one.

As for what to do, research many companies and get prehired then give your 2 weeks notice.

Prehire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Squidly66's Comment
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It sounds like you did no research before signing the lease. Bad on your part.

As far as the lying to you.... You must be young because any company that is trying to sell you on something will give you the best case scenario. That is not technically lying because you do have the ability to achieve those numbers but most do not.

This seems to be another case of "I screwed up and it is the companies fault" type of post. The blame for the issue resides squarely on your shoulders for this one.

As for what to do, research many companies and get prehired then give your 2 weeks notice.

Gee Pat, you sound like a company guy. I did all the research I knew how to do. My father has worked in the industry his entire life, I am not young, I am a 10 year military veteran. This post was written for helpful advice, not your thoughts on my personal searching for a decent job. New to this industry , yes. But lying by omission, is still lying. What they do not tell you is, you can not make the money they promise unless you are a trainer, and you have Consistent loads. I have lost 1 day already because I had to fix a truck I have only had 2 weeks, another day today because,well, we just don't have any loads for you until tomorrow. Can you understand how this might look in the eyes of a new guy ??? If this is notmal, I will not make ANY money to pay my bills and take care of my family. So there again , they didn't spell out the entire truth, I like my job, but how good is what they are telling everyone ?

Prehire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Squidly66's Comment
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