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    Branson, MO

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    Company Driver In Training

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    4 years, 7 months ago

Cotter Pin's Bio

I am a previous driver about 9 years ago. Let the CDL go, and am now training with PRIME INC.

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Posted:  4 years, 1 month ago

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Best Lease purchase companies?

As far as getting the truck, Lone Mountain isn't a bad place. Hell, you could get one through Penske or IdealLease if you wanted.

As far as who to lease to, Landstar isn't bad and I know guys who haul for Hall Brothers out of indianapolis, they make good money.

Great thanks, I will look into them.

Posted:  4 years, 1 month ago

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Best Lease purchase companies?

Well a load board sounds like a good option. Without knowing anything about them though, I have a couple of immediate, knee-jerk questions/reservations about them:

Do they prioritize certain drivers over others as far as choice? Or is it just first come, first served?

Do they put ALL the loads the company has available up on the board, or do they reserve some of them for the company folk? If so, how would they determine which loads go to which group?

Are you limited to only those loads or can you go outside the company too? Like I delivered to a Menard's DC today and there was a sign that said "Drivers, we have outgoing loads available in almost all directions, please ask for details."

The driver I spoke to said that he doesn't have to compete with company drivers for loads, and that it will say available, which just involves clicking on it and its yours. This was a Schneider guy. Not sure about grabbing loads from available shippers that aren't on the load board. I have heard of smaller companies that allow this, because you have the option to negotiate your own rates, fuel surcharge, toll pay, etc. directly with the shipper, but the information I found about that came from a thread that was three years old.

Posted:  4 years, 1 month ago

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Best Lease purchase companies?

Are you totally committed to leasing in general? In other words, are you open to the idea of going company at all? And if so, are you able to get out of your current lease fairly easily?

I only ask this because it seems you are making the same, if not less, than company drivers, and you have all this added hassle.

I don't have any experience with leasing, but honestly, I have serious doubts that you'd be able to find a better situation than the one you're in now. Any company you lease from basically holds all the cards as far as lease terms, freight availability, etc. I don't see how or why any company in that situation wouldn't do everything in their power to maximize their own profit and minimize their own risk at your expense.

I was thinking the other day: I bet companies push leasing so hard because they have such a tough time getting trainers, so by putting you in a position where you are totally dependent on something they have virtually compete control over (namely: your income), they can leverage you into training after a while to help meet their own demand. It sounds like that's what's happening to you. They've made it steadily harder and harder for you to make money as your experience level has gone up, and I bet they're hoping that at some point these factors will reach a critical mass and you will be forced to take on a student.

Makes total sense. I'm not against going company, to be honest, I miss pulling up to a fuel pump and not worrying about decreasing my income and calculating just enough fuel to get me to where I'm going. I have spoke to some drivers that are company and steadily bring home $1,500 after taxes weekly, but who knows if they are truthful or what. I have found that either landstar or Schneider at least let you pick your loads from a load board, plan your route, and your own home time. At Prime, the dispatchers are some of the dumbest people I have ever dealt with, and have no experience whatsoever in planning your routes, so I am at their mercy so to speak. It is like me trying to tell a cardiologists how to perform a heart transplant.

Posted:  4 years, 1 month ago

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Best Lease purchase companies?

Cotter, you hit the nail on the head with one statement. The company is out to make money both in freight and off the L/O.

Hence the reason I said to give yourself a fighting chance is to go with a lease that doesn't tie you to the company you're leasing from.

Great, any suggestions? I have found several lease dealers, but a lot of companies won't let you lease on without going through their preferred leasing company. I have seen several ads from independent brokers in my area that only take 5% of the load pay, and are looking for drivers to work with, but I would need to make sure they can keep me rolling.

Posted:  4 years, 1 month ago

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Best Lease purchase companies?

Seriously guys, I didn't post this for heated debates, just factual responses from anyone in other lease programs. If it starts going that way I will just unsubscribe from the thread, and let it takes its course. I appreciate your comments, but really I'd like to stay on topic. Thanks

Posted:  4 years, 1 month ago

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Best Lease purchase companies?

I know there are a lot of negative opinions regarding leasing a truck, which is not hard for me to understand. It's just that Prime has become another overly corporatized company that tries to make as much money on the logistics side, as well as make as much off of their drivers. There really is no long term success with their lease program unless you are willing to train, and now they are changing the requirements in the training division, which means less training that is going to backfire. And to be honest, the majority of students recruited lately seem to have been scraped from the bottom of the barrel. I know the ins and outs of leasing a truck, but I was wondering if there were others out there that have leased, are leasing, etc. with other companies. There are tons of companies out there, and many I have researched, but you don't want to fill out applications and have recruiters calling all day and night just to find out about their programs.

Posted:  4 years, 1 month ago

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Out of curiosity, why did you decide on lease?

I couldn't do it myself. I'll be making $700/week just in training. Maybe 550-600ish after taxes. That's pretty good as far as I'm concerned.

The only reason I got into this again was for job security and to make some good money. I could make $500-600 being home every night, showering daily, and sleeping in my own bed. I may try changing dispatchers, which is probably where my problem is to be honest. I have cleared anywhere from $346-$2400 net. Average has been $1400 net, but lately I have only been getting crap runs for the last few weeks. I went lease to make more money really, but missing birthdays, anniversary, holidays, etc. just as a company driver doesn't cut it for $500-600 a week. After training, give it a few months especially if you have a family, and you will understand. The job is not hard, stressful at times, but not always, and definitely not a bad way to earn a living. It can be a great career, but I wouldn't want to work for somebody else the rest of my life. As a company driver they can basically spit in your face and you can't buck back. As a lease operator, I can tell them where to go and how fast to get there. I'm not tied down to Prime, as I can lease my truck wherever I want, but there are much better terms out there then what I am paying with this lease. So this is what I am trying to find out if anyone else out there has any positive experiences leasing with any other companies or truck lease programs. You are going through Prime right?

Posted:  4 years, 1 month ago

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Best Lease purchase companies?

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Hello folks,

I am currently a lease operator for Prime, and am looking into better companies that offer a real lease purchase opportunity. The loads are up and down, and since starting the lease, Prime has dropped the fuel surcharge every week down to 0.15 cpm currently, Not to mention never getting reimbursed for tolls, washouts, etc. I currently get home about 3 days after a month out, and would like to hear from someone with experience with other companies. If I could get home more that would be great, but making $$ is the real deal here. I have been clearing about $900 net, and still have to pay quarterly taxes on that. I could go home, work 2 jobs, and bring in that much or better. Prime's lease payments are excessively high compared to many companies that I have looked into, $933 for the truck weekly, and $70 for the apu, not to mention several other deductions. Also, I used to know a guy years ago that owned his own truck and trailer, dealt with independent brokers, picked a load to run every other day that would pay $2500, dead head home, and be home every night, and off on the weekends. If I were to lease independently from the many lease dealers not associated with any company, and work with an independent freight broker, could that be an option? I know there are many people on here that may be more knowledgeable in this area then me, therefore I seek your help. I am operating under my own LLC currently. Thanks!

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Do you really not know that this is the wrong site to be asking such a question???

Schneider Choice IC drivers seem happy.

Yeah I knew it would be risky posting this here. Just trying to go further than the BS the recruiters always promise. I spoke with a Schneider IC the other day in Maine, and he had a lot of positives to say about them.

Posted:  4 years, 1 month ago

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Best Lease purchase companies?

Hello folks,

I am currently a lease operator for Prime, and am looking into better companies that offer a real lease purchase opportunity. The loads are up and down, and since starting the lease, Prime has dropped the fuel surcharge every week down to 0.15 cpm currently, Not to mention never getting reimbursed for tolls, washouts, etc. I currently get home about 3 days after a month out, and would like to hear from someone with experience with other companies. If I could get home more that would be great, but making $$ is the real deal here. I have been clearing about $900 net, and still have to pay quarterly taxes on that. I could go home, work 2 jobs, and bring in that much or better. Prime's lease payments are excessively high compared to many companies that I have looked into, $933 for the truck weekly, and $70 for the apu, not to mention several other deductions. Also, I used to know a guy years ago that owned his own truck and trailer, dealt with independent brokers, picked a load to run every other day that would pay $2500, dead head home, and be home every night, and off on the weekends. If I were to lease independently from the many lease dealers not associated with any company, and work with an independent freight broker, could that be an option? I know there are many people on here that may be more knowledgeable in this area then me, therefore I seek your help. I am operating under my own LLC currently. Thanks!

Posted:  4 years, 6 months ago

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Prime vs swift vs millis

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The recruiter at Swift wants me to take a few online courses to prepare for the permit test. She also told me to get the permit before making the trip to Swift's training school...Maybe I will go ahead and get a student permit before I travel to whatever school I end up attanding...

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At Swift, having your state's permit (+ medical card) saves you time and, I think, $100 up front. You can skip a CDL class & go right into the academy.

The online "courses" are just to fill out some forms, not something you need to learn. 10 minutes, you're in, you're out. I had my MS permit. There may be courses if you need to take the CDL class.

BTW, Swift works with your local state CDL if you already have the permit - they don't "force" you to get a license in the state you take your class in.

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I've read somewhere that there is some kind of reciprocity among states, but that we are to get a license wherever our state requires us to.

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I highly recommend getting the learner's permit (written test), out of the way with whatever school you go to, especially Prime. I wouldn't waste money on a DOT physical if going to Prime, because they will do their own anyway, unless there is something you aren't sure about, which may be worth the $70 just for peace of mind at least good-luck.gif

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You gave a ton of great advice Alan! I'll take it! Thank you! Maybe I'll see you at Prime's Headquarters in a week!

You bet!

Posted:  4 years, 6 months ago

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Prime vs swift vs millis

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The recruiter at Swift wants me to take a few online courses to prepare for the permit test. She also told me to get the permit before making the trip to Swift's training school...Maybe I will go ahead and get a student permit before I travel to whatever school I end up attanding...

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At Swift, having your state's permit (+ medical card) saves you time and, I think, $100 up front. You can skip a CDL class & go right into the academy.

The online "courses" are just to fill out some forms, not something you need to learn. 10 minutes, you're in, you're out. I had my MS permit. There may be courses if you need to take the CDL class.

BTW, Swift works with your local state CDL if you already have the permit - they don't "force" you to get a license in the state you take your class in.

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I've read somewhere that there is some kind of reciprocity among states, but that we are to get a license wherever our state requires us to.

I highly recommend getting the learner's permit (written test), out of the way with whatever school you go to, especially Prime. I wouldn't waste money on a DOT physical if going to Prime, because they will do their own anyway, unless there is something you aren't sure about, which may be worth the $70 just for peace of mind at least good-luck.gif

Posted:  4 years, 6 months ago

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Prime vs swift vs millis

I went through a training school in Tennessee 10 years ago. Never ever drove any type of stick shift, and was the only one in the class. They laughed, and called me "No Clutch." At the end of the class, I graduated at the top of my class. The less you know, the less they have to correct. I drove for a while, let my CDL expire a few years ago, but start with Prime Inc. on Monday March 30, 2015 in their paid CDL training program. Got the learner's permit with the tanker endorsement out f the way, and ready to get it going. I will be studying for the hazmat in case it is required. I want to get into tanker, so I can go to the oilfields in a year or so. Prime matched up great for me, especially since I live just 45 minutes away from their corporate terminal. Years ago, I went from a school to Star Transportation out of Nashville, TN, and was thrown in a truck after 3 weeks of training with an idiot, and then thrown in a truck by myself, and definitely wasn't ready. I drove for a while with no accidents, but can say from experience that the company paid programs are a little better than the school, then company path. You learn one thing in school, the trainer at the company will teach you another way, then the safety guy testing you to go solo will question why you are flooring the clutch, or doing this a certain way, etc. Too many variables, at least that was my past experience. My advice to anyone is 1. don't stress, 2. listen to your instructor, 3. take notes, 4. Be slow, and take it easy. 5. You will make rookie mistakes, but so does everyone. 6. Learn from these mistakes, and don't take things personally. If you can do these things, then you will be fine. Some days plainly suck, and some days you will love your new career. It is just like any other job out there. Some days are great, and then there are bad days. Take the good with the bad, and you will be golden. Keep a clean record, and within a year or two, anyone will want you as a driver. Trucking and the medical field are the two highest in demand jobs that are always recruiting. The sky is the limit!

Posted:  4 years, 6 months ago

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Another person in a hurry.

Apparently the site does not like YouTube links. So copy and paste the link below in a browser for a video I took a few weeks ago. It was a close call.

https://youtu.be/AOXfLpPVY6g

Good thing you had the video recording, just in case things would have went south! These idiots think that trucks can stop on a dime, when that is simply not the case! Good watching out for that dumbass!

Posted:  4 years, 6 months ago

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DOT Drug Testing: Urinalysis or Hair Follicle?

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Yes all failed drug tests in the trucking industry will show up and most if not all the drug tests you take for any employment and fail trucking companies will see them as well

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If I failed a drug test 8 years ago (just for taking a damn Vicodin when I was younger and dumber) for a warehousing job that is now out of business.. is there anyway a trucking company could find a record of that and deny me employment for it?

According to newer regulations, they can only report it on your record for two years. I just tested yesterday on this, unless that has changed. With that being a non-driving position, it shouldn't show up in a background, especially being over 7 years ago.

Posted:  4 years, 7 months ago

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Lobos Interstate Systems

Anybody ever had experience or know anything about this company?

Somebody posted a thread a week ago about this, but never heard anything else. I called their recruiting department, and a recruiter had called, but never left a message. I tried to research the company, but I couldn't find anything out about them. To be honest, I forgot all about them until you posted this question rofl-3.gif

Posted:  4 years, 7 months ago

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Understanding what I was told

47 trying to get into trucking as some of you already know. So my question is this I had put Hi hopes at getting into Schneider because they have a high regard to safety and training blah blah blah. Well when I had my interview today they told me that not because my drivers licenses had got suspended for unpaid traffic. But because I got pulled over again and found out that my licenses was suspended {ak ticket for driving on suspended licenses] that i can not drive per DOT Regulations till 2017. And then she told me however there are a lot of company's that wont look at it that way. So should i keep studying and trying to get into a paid training program or should I give up the ship and try to get another factory job.

If I were you, I would just keep checking with some other companies to see what they say about it. Be open and upfront with the recruiters, and you might just find some companies that will not consider this something too major. Factory jobs are starting to get scarce, at least that has been my experience, but at your age (no offense) smile.gif , I would be trying to go into trucking. The job security will always be there if you can keep your record clean, and the DAC report clean. Definitely call around and just see what other companies say. Good luck!

Posted:  4 years, 7 months ago

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Finally Applied at Prime, Inc !!

Congratulations...I applied a week ago, and just waiting for my 1099 to get back, so I can forward that, and hopefully be in class on the 16th. May end up being on the 23rd if the mail doesn't hurry up. Good luck to ya!

Posted:  4 years, 7 months ago

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Prime or CRST Training Programs

I would say Prime will put in training very fast. Call and speak to Lane Williams in recruiting and he will take care of you.

Sure will, I appreciate your help! I think after everything I have researched I'm going to go with Prime. Talked to Trailiner also. They didn't sound like a bad company running some dedicated teams, but I can't find any definitive information on them, so I think Prime should be okay. Maybe I can go flatbed instead of reefer. I'll take either one though, can't complain until I get some more experience on the resume.

Posted:  4 years, 7 months ago

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Prime or CRST Training Programs

Well, based on your first post, and your response, I'd recommend Prime. They pay very well for students during training - comparatively speaking.

Thanks for the reply. I filled out the application, and called to speak with a recruiter. I could tell she was reading from a script. Their website says one thing, and she was scattered, and not the friendliest, but that's how people are around here. Quite strange.

Posted:  4 years, 7 months ago

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Anyone heard of Lobos Interstate Services?

Lobos Interstate services? They have ads on Craigslist saying if you sign a three month employment contract with them, they will pay for your CDL training. But I can't find out where they do the training or anything about the program.

I just saw this also, and was wondering about them. They say in the ad, that you train for 12 weeks at $300 a week plus bonuses, and then after training you can earn upwards of $1500 weekly. I may give them a call to feel them out.

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