Comments By Charles C.

I saw the contract when I got there. I asked for it prior to getting to SLC and they said I would review it in Lindon Utah. I had no idea it would be 51 pages long.

I tried calling Lobos ( 385312962 ) from my phone and also my fathers. They will not pick up or they changed their. I had to take out a loan from my father because of what Lobos has done and sell my PS4. I'm thankful I didon't sign the contract because it would mean mosthat likely career and fincial suicide. I have been respectful to Lobos and have never sworn to them etc etc. I'm left with nothing because of my experience being mislead and hurt. This place is pure evil. Why me? Why does everyone in my shoes have to go though this? How does Lobos get away with this?

Lobos said they would not reimburse me for all my travel costs unless I remove my posts from here? There is no way I can do that. Can anyone help me out?

Dear Lobos,

I will be in contact with you tomorrow about reimbursing my travel. I spoke with a gentleman two days ago from your office and he said he would call me back. That has not happened.

I don't like badmouthing your establishment. I think that you could thrive in the business if you worked with drivers who had more experience especially if they were o/o. Your contract should be sent to all individuals interested in joining prior to getting to salt lake city. I'm sure there are a lot of odds and ends to be worked out but there is potential. I would never be an owner operator unless I had years of experience and a good amount of knowledge from my experience in Lindon Utah.

I've been getting more requests to share the contract which I don't want to do. I've also been informed with a news contact. That's going a little far. There isn't one single person in your company who I would single out as a "bad person" or "person I don't like". I feel as if your current "system" sucks and people are being mislead and forcing themselves to sign a contract with no viable options to go back home.

Speaking from my experience I'm sure you can learn a lot and maybe in the future make changes. Good luck and I mean it!

Charles Cressy

I am on this site to make rookie drivers or prospective drivers aware of my experience. In no way or form am I trying the harm this company or give false information. I am speaking from my own experience and everything I say is opinion and not fact.

I got lost on my way to the address where Lobos is. I'm unsure if they share the same building as ABC or ABCs weekly? I believe to the best of my knowledge that there is also a sign for Studies Weekly on there building. If you were to drive by this place you would have no clue in my opinion of lobos interstate services because to the best of my knowledge I did not see a sign for it while I was there for two days. I've never seen anything like this in my whole entire life. From what it seems lobos interstate SERVICES likes to hide their location and address.

Lobos interstate services, could you explain Arrowhead dispatch, direct lease, and United coop to prospective drivers? It seems to me as if you're trying to hide all this and are not describing it in the website.

If I was the owner of this company I would have a week-long course 8 hours a day 5 days a week to thoroughly go over every aspect of your business operation. An individual who is seeking employment would have to be fully knowledgeable of the 51 page contract before signing it. An hour to two hour orientation is not enough in my opinion it is a pathetic joke. I said in the last post that your business might not be able to operate if people were fully aware of your contract before coming to Lindon Utah. If I was to strive for the American dream and run an enterprise or business like my father who owned a grocery store and storage facility I would treat individuals with respect, honesty, and create a workplace environment where individuals can thrive and succeed and not be in fear. In no way or form would I ever threaten individuals with a contract that could make them bankrupt, ruin there career, or possibly destroy their lives. If an individual choose not to work at my establishment I would not hold them accountable. If the individual was a good worker I would look into the mistakes that my business has and correct them.

Lobos, this is the second time I asked on this form for you to reimburse me.

People on this forum and in my emails have been asking for the contract. I don't know if it's even legal to share it. I'm worried if I do I'll get sued by Lobos. I have the same sense of fear about sharing it just like when I was there trying to understand what the heck I was going to get myself into. Lobos in my opinion is one big headache where the only cure is to avoid it altogether unless there is massive changes in the company and how it operates but I can almost guarantee you that if there were changes there would be no way for them to make money because I think it's a scam. Scams last for a few years and possibly a decade. Eventually they get shut down and then they pop up again in a different form. Don't become victim to them and if you are protest, educate, complain. Whatever you are Lobos good luck in your future and take my experience and make the most of it. Maybe your future will be better or maybe who knows?

Charles Cressy

Dear Lobos Interstate services,

I want to make it clear that I would like to be reimbursed in the amount of $300. I was told over the phone with you that you would reimburse me for driving out to Salt Lake City from New Hampshire. I spoke with numerous people at your office and even gave my gas receipts to you. I left on Wednesday February 24th 2016 and slept in my car for 2 days in Cleveland Ohio and Des Moines Iowa. On Friday February 26th I spent $60 at the Days Inn in North Platte Nebraska. On Saturday and Sunday I spent 2 nights in Laramie Wyoming which amounted to $120. If I was aware of the 51 page contract I would not have came out to Salt Lake City. If it wasn't for my tax return that got direct deposited into my bank account on Tuesday March 2nd 2016 there would be no way for me to get home financially and I would have to rely on my parents. The 51 page contract which was barely gone over in the approximately hour-and-a-half long orientation scared me ****less. I want to make you fully aware that I have the contract downloaded. I've had numerous requests to show this contract which I find scary and could possibly ruin your career without not knowing what you're signing or getting yourself into. If I did not get my tax return I might not have had an option but to sign my life away. To me it seems as if this is a tactic you use. I would highly recommend that in the future you show people the contract. I can almost guarantee that that would mean a lot fewer students or uneducated rookie drivers.

Whatever tactic is used for your business to make money seems very complicated and is a borderline scam in my opinion. You have lobos interstate services, Arrowhead dispatch, direct lease, and United coop from what it seems in that one small building in Lindon Utah. It seems like they're all connected and are in the contract. To fully understand this contract in my opinion would take months. My experience there was a nightmare. I did not meet one driver who seemed bright or intelligent in my opinion all of them seemed unprofessional. Being there for 2 days gave a lot of bad impressions. Some people told me to not go with your company. There was a lot of arguing between drivers. I heard a lot of swearing and childish talks. All the drivers I met excluding maybe one or two had only one four three weeks experience.

There is potential to run a business providing owner owner operator services to those that know what they're doing and have knowledgeable experience of business, dispatch and the many things to be a owner operator. An hour and a half meeting / orientation with barely any education / 51 page contract with hefty consequences that could possibly ruin your career or make you go bankrupt is not enough. You should seek individuals who were owner operators and know what they're doing. You should also have a lawyer or Legal Assistant available all day for those reading the contract. I don't understand how this business model works at the moment but it's in your best interest to reimburse me for all my travel cost which amounted to $300 at the bare minimum. This goes beyond the financial amount with the pain and suffering. I believe, 99% certain that one of your head people told me in person that when an individual breaks a contract information is sent to the courts and there was a $10,000 early termination fee. Not only that by breaking the contract it could ruin your career on your DAC report. If this was on the news I can almost guarantee you that people would avoid your company. I wanted to add that I did not see a sign on the building for Lobos interstate services so while I was there it seems like you're trying to hide your your business. The address is 1922 west something whatever in Lindon Utah. There are signs on it on the building that say ABC's weekly and studies weekly which makes it confusing if you're driving by because there is no sign for Lobos interstate services and I can 90% guarantee that being there for 2 days.

I really don't want to go as far as posting the contract or even sharing it because I'm absolutely disgusted. Please reimburse me for all my travel cost and I really want to move on with my life and forget about this horrible experience. You said over the phone today that you would get back to me over getting my check back. It's time to man up Lobos and do the right thing and stick with your word. If you say you're going to reimburse me then do it. Karma's a b****. I really hope my experience doesn't happen to other people in the future because all I see happening is this place being shut down with a big lawsuit and possible criminal charges. I'm ****ed off at the moment and I'm sure many people are too. In my opinion the owner of this place is striving for the American dream by making a nightmare out of individuals lives and enslaving them to a 51 page contract which could easily ruin their career and lives by breaking the contract.

Charles Cressy

I would avoid this place altogether. This place sucks and in my opinion is a scam. I got to Lobo last week and did not sign the contract. I have 2 and 1/2 months of driving experience and I could have ruined my life signing that piece of **** 51 page contract that they hardly went over. The guy next to me signed it and I asked if he read all of it. I have to be carefull what I say on here because Lobo could sue me.

On Wednesday I left the building and took a 73 year old man home who was there for CDL training. He wanted to leave. He had no way to get home and thankfully i had my car and my taxes were returned to my bank the day i left. I drove my own car there and asked if I could get my travel reimbursments back. It hasn't happened yet. I spent approx $120.00 in fuel driving out and $110.00 in hotels.

Going to Lobo was the worst experience of my life. It might be yours too. At one point when I was low on cash before my taxes were returned I was close to signing it. What options did I have? Lobo wouldn't give me gas money to get back. From what it seems they take students who live a very long ways from SLC. I'm from New Hampshire, the man I drove home lives in Kentucky. Three other people I met were from new york, mississippi, and Kentucky. I belive i met a driver from north carolina. Doesn't that seem odd? To me it seems like they like taking people who need money fast and live a long ways away so backing out would be a $200-300 bus ticket or possible $500-1000 flight. Lobo... why didn't I meet any students or drivers from Utah or Idaho? There is a million things I want to say but I'm guessing your a pro af suing people. I'll use my words carefully Lobo.

If you do happen to look over the 51 page contract, i would advise you to have an attorney present. Do not skip anything and even if you don't have a dime to your name being homeless might be better than being with .......

Message to Lobo... where the **** is my travel reimbursement money? What do you have to say for the hardship you cause for many people? Why did I have to drive a 73 year old man home? What would have happened if he was left stranded? Why didnt you reiminbuse him in the office? What the heck are you? In my opinion things like you shouldn't exist and your a complete ****ing joke. I hope you go away and disappear.

I still want my travel reimbursements.