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Posted:  1 year, 7 months ago

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Med card and drug testing.

I have thought about just grtting my cdl-b, getting a job somewhere close to town driving dump trucks or something until I get off and then going for my cdl-a as well. Idk, I have got to do something. 38 years old working ny butt off at a tire shop aint getting it.

"For awhile now" - means it's going to take awhile (maybe QUITE AWHILE) for you to get all the way off, and feel OK.

Subox was never meant as a "maintenance drug" - and similar to methadone - the detox is usually worse than just getting off the Heroin (or whatever opiate you are trying to steer clear of) cold turkey. You're really sick for a week - and then you get better. Oxy is a little different - you feel like azz for a month (or so) and then you get better.

And even though you aren't "getting high" off it - Suboxone is a Schedule II Controlled Substance. Suboxone is not "specifically prohibited" by FMCSA regs - although Methadone is. A lot of DOT Medical Examiners consider the Opioid component

I've seen where DOT Medical Examiners have issued Medical Certificates - but for a company to hire someone on an Opioid/Agonist is a HIGH RISK PROPOSITION.

Even if you're doing "just fine" on it - and your Dr says so - if you get in an accident while taking it, the folks that are going to be looking to ASSIGN BLAME (that would be the LAWYERS) are going to attack your use of an opioid first.

So while Subox is better than DOPE - it's still not as good as BEING CLEAN. And I'm not trying to judge here - I have over 27 years 100% off the hard stuff.

So...

Be prepared to have most companies that do "company training" - just not want to take the risk of bringing someone on, that's on Subox.

Best of luck - prepare for a nasty detox. I have friends that have been on it for years too - that have also been trying to get OFF IT for quite awhile and would rather stay ON IT - than deal with the discomfort. How soon we forget what FULL BLOWN DOPESICK FELT LIKE.

I have a friend who DOES DRIVE (he's been an O/O for a couple of years) who's working on trying to get off Subox. He has been ON IT HIS ENTIRE DRIVING CAREER. That is - VoTech School, CRST, Malone & O/O. He gets his DOT Med Cards because he DOESN'T DISCLOSE that he's on it. He passes DOT Drug Tests - because urine screening DO NOT TEST FOR IT. He actually had an Subox IMPLANT. He's currently scheduled to do a 45 day detox in Colorado in couple of months, to get all the way off it.

Do I think he's right for "failing to disclose"? No I don't - that's LYING.

Here at TT - we would NEVER RECOMMEND THAT SOMEONE LIE OR FAIL TO DISCLOSE A MEDICATION OR DISQUALIFYING MEDICAL CONDITION.

That's just not how we roll.

Rick

Posted:  1 year, 7 months ago

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Med card and drug testing.

If I can just get in the door and start driving. I have all the confidence in the world that I'll be off of it by next year recertification, but with thd type of work i do right now. There is no way in heck I can come off of it. It is way to physically demanding.

Country I can't say for sure what will happen. You may find an examiner who will certify you. But that really doesn't matter, The company you are trying to hire on with may not allow it regardless. Most companies will want you to medically qualify with one of their approved examiners. Doing this on your own might prove to be waste of time and money. You might want to put a hold on that for a bit.

My suggestion is to start applying to Company-Sponsored Training Programs and disclose that your are prescribed Suboxone by your Doctor. Be prepared to have your Doctor write a note on official letterhead stating that this will not affect or inhibit your ability to operate a CMV. I think you should (if you haven't already) talk with your Doctor who prescribed the medication and discuss your intentions to become a truck driver.

You should spend some time on the FMCSA's website reviewing the banned substances lists. Keep in mind Suboxone is a narcotic...most of these are forbidden. There are exceptions though, hopefully that will be the case for you.

Good luck.

Posted:  1 year, 7 months ago

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Med card and drug testing.

I have been taking suboxone for a while now and it has saved my life. I have read that only certain doctors will certify you when you take suboxone. Even though it is prescribed to me. My question is this. If I am able to find a doctor to certify me. What obstacles will I run across after that? I know trucking companies also give drug tests. If it shows up on their test. Will it go down as a failed test or what? I no I don't want a failed test on my record. Also, I plan on trying to go to a company sponsored class, because I can't afford it on my own.

Posted:  1 year, 7 months ago

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Training guide mistake

After someone said stopping distance . At vary. I looked at my state book that I downloaded as pdf file. Luckily my book has same stopping distance. It's word for word on what's on here about 32 feet and 450 and all that.

One other question i have though. So far I have made it to around page 56. I just finished coupling and ubcouplibg and the next section is doubles and triples. I have already study everything before that. So i should know what i need to for ait breaks, combination vehicle and general knowledge right? Or will log book question be on general knowledge? I am just trying not to flood my mind with unnecessary stuff at the moment until after I get my cdl permit. Then i can always go take test for endorsements right? Or do i have to do it all at same time?

Country this is great to start putting this in your mind to remember but when you go to school they will teach you on that states specific test. As long as you study you will pass it in roughly 3 days.

Posted:  1 year, 7 months ago

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Training guide mistake

On this one I wasnt sure of the answer. So i clicked on the find the answer link. Then after reading the part of the manual that was supposed to have the answer. I figured it was a typo on the question and it meant added stomping distance since 32 feet was an option and it was also in the part of the manual that supposedly had the answer in it.

I think that question in particular is common sense. The question isn't trying to ask you specifically how many feet it is to stop a truck but it's probably trying to see if you understand the difference between feet and yards.

A truck going 55mph is going to take a heck of a lot longer than 35 or 100 ft to stop but isn't going to take 450 yards or over 4 football fields that's ridiculous.

So there's only really one answer that makes sense. :)

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Exactly, but the correct answer was 450. Nowhere did it say anything about 450 feet. I am just pointing out that when you click the thing that says click here for the answer. On some it doesnt give the answer.

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the stopping distance at 55mph is more than 300 feet and increases at higher speed.

I'm not sure what you are saying?

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Posted:  1 year, 7 months ago

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Training guide mistake

Well, the correct answer was the top anawer according to this website. That is why i thought they messed up and put trailer instead of tractor. I just have another confusing question about and. Asking where the malfunction light was. The 3 of the 4 answers I could chose from were technically correct according to the manual. The answers were left side, front, back and right side. According to the manual it's on the left side at the front or back, but it was flagged as wrong when I picked left side and correct answer was supposed to be front. I understand it takes a lot to get this website running and keep it running. I am by no means trying to be an ass or anything. I am just trying to help correct some of the mistakes for people who may need to use it for their CDL. I truly appreciate all the work the admins of the site have put into it. It has helped me a lot so far.

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If I am not mistaken. Shouldn't this ve Tractor Protection Valve and not trailer protection valve?

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I think the answer is the emergency spring brake valve (red knob), but I agree that it's not clear from the section in the manual.

Posted:  1 year, 7 months ago

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Training guide mistake

Exactly, but the correct answer was 450. Nowhere did it say anything about 450 feet. I am just pointing out that when you click the thing that says click here for the answer. On some it doesnt give the answer.

the stopping distance at 55mph is more than 300 feet and increases at higher speed.

I'm not sure what you are saying?

Posted:  1 year, 7 months ago

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If I am not mistaken. Shouldn't this ve Tractor Protection Valve and not trailer protection valve?

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Training guide mistake

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Posted:  1 year, 7 months ago

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Training guide mistake

Did not know where to post this, but wanted to let you know so it could be corrected. The related CDL manual clip doesn't really go with this question or give the answer to it. I hope I put the right link in the photo thing for it to show up. If not i will reply to this with it.

Posted:  1 year, 7 months ago

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Blown Off

From all the research i have done. Prime abd TMC are my top 2 choices. So far, but I haven't checked then all out yet. So far Prime seems to have best pay and benefits for starting out. TMC talks about getting truckers home every weekend. I have beeb studying the guide on her dor my permit. With TMC you have to have that for their schooling. Still looking into some others. I have about 3 weeks to find a place and get there to start.

Country.. Go for it.. Sell yourself.. Tell recruiters what you told us.. You're a d*** good worker... You want to do this..

You can do this. Be excited. DONT SELL YOURSELF SHORT. Start the high road training program on this site. Tell the recruiter that- that you're already working on getting your CDL permit.

I am starting my 6th week at Prime Inc. 5th week I hit the road with a trainer, making $700/wk and we drove 5500 miles last week.. and plan on doing about 5500 for weeks 5-10. And then I get my own truck.

I got 2 of the top trainers at Prime. The first one told me he picked me cause I'm ambitious. The second one asked me if I wanted a shower today. I told him priority one is ALWAYS keeping the wheels turning- the more money he makes the happier he is.. and I want to learn to run hard.

BTW the past 2 1/2 weeks we've been on road, we've had showers every day, except for one day.

Posted:  1 year, 7 months ago

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Blown Off

I can't afford private school and can't find any grants. I pretty come to tge conclusion I will end up trying to go to a company. I am aware most want you to work for a year afterwards and I am totally fine with that. I am a loyal guy. I have been stuck at this dead end job for ever and the reason I have been stuck is because my loyalty to tge owner of the shop. He gave me a chance wgen no one else would. He has done a lot for me. He even cosigned a 3 thousand dollar loan for me so I can get the truck that i niw have. I go ished paying it off this past january. The only reason I am leaving now is because i have to. I have no other choice. I have got to do better. The position I am in right now. It do better or probably be homeless. I have zero problem staying with a company that gives me the chance I need. It's just finding the right one that will give me the chance and believe in telling the truth and not just blowing smoke like 90% of the population it seems.

Posted:  1 year, 7 months ago

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Blown Off

Well, I was just blown off by my first trucking company. I filled out the application thing on this website for trucking companies to get into contact with me. I was kinda surprised to hear from them by phone and was in the middle of eating supper. The phone rang and i answers it. He said this is so and so from wherever and asked, what are you looking for in your next trucking job? I told him I was interested in getting my CDL. He asked what kind of trucking I was interested in doing. Me being surprised, eating and new to all this. I told him regional, cross country. I will do whatever. Obviously this was not the right answer. He kind of took over the conversation then and told me that sense I never thought about being away from home for a month at a time. I wouldn't enjoy this and his company wouldn't be a good fit.

Seeing as how I have spent every wakibg hour the past few months thinking about this. Thinking about driving cross country and seeing new places and driving in general. Obviously I need some pointers on how to deal or talk with trucking companies. I would be just as happy driving cross country as I would be driving regional areas or whatever. I guess i shouldn't say anything about regional ever. Then there is the part about not being happy. Lmao, The job i have been at for the past 10 years hasnt made me happy. That didnt stop me from showing up every single day and doing it to the absolute best of my ability though.

If anyone has any pointers in how to communicate with these businesses. Please let me know, because so far my way isnt working.

Posted:  1 year, 7 months ago

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38 and need help

Did not see your reply bedore posting that. Thanks Farmerbob

Not TSA, but to enter prime PSD... I guess I really am screwed. Every school or company I have looked at so far asks about 10 year employment history.

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I just read to pass TSA something I have to prove I have been employed for the last 10 years? That might be a problem dor me.

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Posted:  1 year, 7 months ago

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38 and need help

Not TSA, but to enter prime PSD... I guess I really am screwed. Every school or company I have looked at so far asks about 10 year employment history.

I just read to pass TSA something I have to prove I have been employed for the last 10 years? That might be a problem dor me.

Posted:  1 year, 7 months ago

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38 and need help

There grant renews July 1st, but only if they have used all the grant money from all 3 pots of money, Displaced worker Older teen Adult. All the adult os gone, they said it's extremely hard to get displaces worker and I am obviously not an older teen.

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My mom is ok to take care of herself around the house and we live in a really small town. So she will hace my truck to drive 5 blocks to the store.

Although she isnt getting better and neither is my uncle. This is why i must do this as soon as possible. Before it gets the point where I can not anymore. Then I won't be stuck begwren a rock and a hard place. I'll just be stuck until older and then living on the streets.

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First off, my condolences for your uncle's health.

Secondly, you do not mention how handicapped your mother is. Will she have someone to help her when you are on the road? Most companies that offer free schooling require you to drive OTR for several months after you complete your training, and you have to pay them back from your pay as you do so. Your uncle will also need assistance in his final months, if the diagnosis are correct and he doesn't have a remarkable recovery.

If you have already considered these things, then apologies, but I just wanted to be sure you weren't expecting to get a company sponsored CDL, then be able to be home regularly for your family.

If you do have help, and can go OTR, then the links above are great!

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Small town America can be great for family. I'm glad your mom and uncle will have some sort of support.

One more thing I would like to mention, other than to investigate the links above. The Federal Government's budget starts it's year in October. If you are not employed by then, on October 1, go to the place that ran out of grant money and ask them if their grant program has been renewed, and if not, when they expect it might be. It might not hurt to call them now and ask the question, so you can be first in line when they have grant money again.

Posted:  1 year, 7 months ago

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38 and need help

I just read to pass TSA something I have to prove I have been employed for the last 10 years? That might be a problem dor me.

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