Comments By MB007

I keep hitting Report on this forum. Not sure why.

Since you're not sure why, then you really should stop hitting that button! It has a purpose, and you are obviously not understanding it or you would not be hitting it.

If you are actually using the High Road Training Program, which I'm pretty sure you aren't understanding how to use either, you are our very first person who just couldn't get it.

You should not even go back to take that test until you actually figure out how to study by using the High Road Training Program.

Again, I apologize. It just seems like a Reply button. I have been using the study guides here heavily (https://www.truckingtruth.com/cdl-test/). But apparently, not Highroad. From what I have deduced they are two very different study guides.

I can speak for Illinois only: Highroad, company practice tests are not sufficient

You've only completed 12% of the High Road.

But I will say the tests are way out of date compared to what they have you study.

No, they most certainly are not out of date, and who is "they"?

Apparently I'm confused about the resources here. I took a whole bunch of practice tests for General, Combo and Airbrakes on TruckingTruth. I kept doing them over until I got 100%. Then I found Highroad, which seems to be another form of testing at TruckingTruth. I kept going through what I thought was not already covered in the other truckingtruth tests. Also, I had been doing the Roehl site practice tests to 100%.

One example at the testing facility was a placard. I wish I could remember the question. But it was a color photo and I had to identify it. However, it was a blank reddish orange. But I cannot find it on the website. Again, I'm willing to admit I could be in the wrong as I have not used this website properly. I'm just confused between Highroad and the other study guides here. I hope you don't think I'm trying to insult you or the website. It's an excellent source. I'm willing to admit I am at fault and don't know how to use it. I apologize for offending you all. It just seems slightly different from the rulebook that I was given today. TT is a great resource. Keep up the good work. Sorry.

I say this with all due respect. I studied mainly from this site and passed the Illinois permit tests (GK, air brakes and combo) first try without issue. But I will say the tests are way out of date compared to what they have you study. Keep studying and you'll pass the tests.

Was your test before August 2016?

Regarding the report button, I apologized. I'll apologize again.

I'm looking at the August 2016 Illinois rulebook. Some section numbers are different from High Road.

1.12

Can you give us a couple of examples of questions you are talking about?

I'm looking at the August 2016 Illinois rulebook. Some section numbers are different from High Road.

1.14 Other Offenses Leading to Disqualification (Highroad) 1.12.2 Additional Offenses Leading to Disqualification (Aug. 2016)

The following example is also a different section number (maybe not important). But the penalties for out of service have changed. Here's what I found:

1.14 (a subtopic) A conviction for violation of an out-of-service order results in disqualification for a minimum six months. (Highroad) 1.12.4 Violation of Out-of Service Orders You will lose your CDL: * For at least 90 days if you have committed your first violation of an out of service order * For at least one year if you have committed two violation s of an out of service order in a 10 year period * For at least three years if you have committed three or more violations of an out of service order in a 10 year period (Aug 2016)

Last comment and I'll shut down my screen: Anyone who belittles bus and truck drivers, calls them "dumb" or "low" level professions, are full of $%#*! A man or woman that can pass that CDL written exam is more intelligent than any so-called professional white collar worker, scholar or student! From this day on, I hold bus and truck drivers up with an extremely high amount of respect!

The High Road series uses The Illinois book as it's basis. If you spend more than one week studying that might help you. Take your time and work your way through the High Road Training Program. You may need to go through it more than once. If you do that until you get it drilled into your head, you will pass. There is no math involved. There are plenty of tips on this site for taking the permit test. Just use the search box at the top of this page. Good luck to you.

I keep hitting Report on this forum. Not sure why. Maybe that's part of a reason why I failed the test. Please accept my apologies.

Anyway, I do understand there is no math per se. However, there is something about math and its application to other things, thinking processes, etc. Regarding nerves, I was really feeling positive and calm. But when those unknown questions came up, I skipped until I had to answer them.

I had near 100% on the General knowledge at High Road (I could be mixing up High Road with the TruckingTruth CDL study pages). The questions that I missed were not at all covered in High Road or Roehl's test. I could be wrong and I'm not putting down truckingtruth, but I think Illinois has changed things. I get another chance tomorrow, the clerk said. So I'm going to keep studying the rulebook through tomorrow. I'll let you all know what happens.

After a week of day and night studying of the book, this site and the Roehl practice tests, I was literally shocked as I left the state driving test facility. I got stumped with what seemed to be unfamiliar questions that knocked my score on General Knowledge to 73%. Knowing what I saw, I am almost sure I will barely make Combo and Air Brakes if I squeeze past General in my second chance tomorrow.

Now, I'm not saying that I am smart. In fact, after I sat in the parking lot feeling utterly dejected, I recalled similar experiences in school and life. I'm good at being friendly and artistic. But terrible with real-world mechanics, math, etc. However, I wanted to share that some have said on this form that they didn't even need to touch their state CDL rulebook as High Road was sufficient. I can speak for Illinois only: Highroad, company practice tests are not sufficient. You absolutely MUST memorize the rulebook. Also, I discovered from the clerk that I had an obsolete rulebook! So you better make sure the one you have is the latest!

A very sad day for me. But it could be a good lesson for you.

I don't know if necessarily agree with that. You have so.Mich crammed in your head that you NEED to know..why put more stuff that is extra?

I am going to disagree with Rainy......SHOCKING! Study the Highroad and go to DMV and take ALL of the tests. General Knowledge, Combination, Air Brakes. ( The 3 must haves for Class A). Tanker and Doubles/ Triples are both a walk in the park. Get them now! Hazmat is really not that difficult. It sounds like you are picking up the material quite well. My thinking was, since I am in "study mode", I will just study all of them and take all if the tests at once. With the help of the Highroad, I completed ALL of them in under an HOUR with a 100% score! (That skip a question function makes that possible). Many Drivers on this forum have done the same. When Old School knocked his out in record time, the DMV Ladies thought he CHEATED! My advice is get er done now, while it is fresh in your mind. Good luck.

I don't know if necessarily agree with that. You have so.Mich crammed in your head that you NEED to know..why put more stuff that is extra?

I am going to disagree with Rainy......SHOCKING! Study the Highroad and go to DMV and take ALL of the tests. General Knowledge, Combination, Air Brakes. ( The 3 must haves for Class A). Tanker and Doubles/ Triples are both a walk in the park. Get them now! Hazmat is really not that difficult. It sounds like you are picking up the material quite well. My thinking was, since I am in "study mode", I will just study all of them and take all if the tests at once. With the help of the Highroad, I completed ALL of them in under an HOUR with a 100% score! (That skip a question function makes that possible). Many Drivers on this forum have done the same. When Old School knocked his out in record time, the DMV Ladies thought he CHEATED! My advice is get er done now, while it is fresh in your mind. Good luck.

Thanks! Yes, I'm determined to take them all. I'm passing the practice for the endorsements now. So everything is working well. Feeling very confident that I can score a bit more than 80% correct.

And people overlook the "not" then go for the first correct answer without reading all the answers. Cause if you read them all...and saw they were all true..it would force you to read the question over.

A lot is nerves...so remember... The written can be taken again too. But honestly by doing the high road you'll pass on the first try ;)

Exactly. High Road and the regular CDL practice test here has been very helpful. It is quite a charitable service for me. I like how it mixes up the order. Unfortunately, the Roehl CDL practice is very easy to memorize as the answers are always in the same order. It's good. Just not as good as truckingtruth.

Looks like I have 3 conditional offers as of today. I discussed it with my wife and looks like I'll be going with Roehl dry van national fleet out of Gary, IN (assuming I pass the DOT medical and my Permit tests).

Ironically, I've spent the last 5 months trying to break into the railroad industry to no success.

But now I guess I can say I finally got into the ...Roehl-road.

Well...you could always go intermodal and drive the reefer/tankers etc from the rail yards to the customers. Intermodal is huge in the Chicago area and you'd get home more often. Just a thought ;)

Great idea! After I put in my 120,000 solo miles, I'll definitely be reassessing things!

And people overlook the "not" then go for the first correct answer without reading all the answers. Cause if you read them all...and saw they were all true..it would force you to read the question over.

A lot is nerves...so remember... The written can be taken again too. But honestly by doing the high road you'll pass on the first try ;)

Exactly. High Road and the regular CDL practice test here has been very helpful. It is quite a charitable service for me. I like how it mixes up the order. Unfortunately, the Roehl CDL practice is very easy to memorize as the answers are always in the same order. It's good. Just not as good as truckingtruth.

Looks like I have 3 conditional offers as of today. I discussed it with my wife and looks like I'll be going with Roehl dry van national fleet out of Gary, IN (assuming I pass the DOT medical and my Permit tests).

Ironically, I've spent the last 5 months trying to break into the railroad industry to no success.

But now I guess I can say I finally got into the ...Roehl-road.