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Posted:  5 years, 8 months ago

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Should drivers be blamed if criminals or shippers put illegal cargo in their trailers?

Starcar is correct. Once the company you are picking the load up from puts the seal on, the law considers that company liable for the cargo contents. And that's the way it should be. Drivers need to remember that they are just that-drivers only. Drivers are not loaders and do not work for the company they picked up from. They simply transport cargo from one point to another. As far as the knowing what is in your truck part, there is no way a driver could know exactly because the driver would have to open and inspect each and every box or barrell on the truck and that is not feasible. Most companies these days do not allow you in the plant, indeed many are closing off even their restrooms to drivers and having them use port-a-potties or the nearest gas station. They certainly don't want drivers at the back of a trailer while it's being loaded by a 3 ton forklift.

Posted:  5 years, 8 months ago

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Should drivers be blamed if criminals or shippers put illegal cargo in their trailers?

According to statistics compiled by border patrol agents and independent investigators, drugs and other illegal cargo are routinely found somewhere in,on or attached to trucks and trailers coming out of Mexico. Would you haul anything out of Mexico?

Posted:  5 years, 9 months ago

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Out of state training

Your company will issue you a temporary residence letter and have you take it to the DMV office for ssigning and stamping you will be considered a resident of whatever state the company school is in and since you will probably be staying at their dorms that will be your residence when you get your permit you will have a certain amount of time to pass your CDL test then when you pass, you will get the CDL transferred to your state later. state

I have read and heard from various sources on the internet that if you go to a company sponsored school and have an out-of-state Drivers License, you will have to switch your DL to the state that your school is in.

My question is this. How do you do this if your residence is out of state? Will your out-of-state residence be printed on your new DL? Thanks, Mark

Posted:  5 years, 9 months ago

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Favorite technique for the Alley Dock Backing and Parallel Parking

Yes I can't wait to get on the practice range and test the various techniques I have been collecting from different drivers. My computer is in the shop but i will reply in a few days I am getting ready to test out in less than a month so I think I got this part and i can already ace the pre-trip and pass the road test thanks again for the advice

Here's my tips.

Parallel parking. Put the cone around the middle of your last trailer axle. Turn the wheel sharp to the right. As sharp as possible. Stop when you see the landing year furthest from you. Now then the wheel sharp to the left all the way and hold it all the way to the left. Go slow hold it all the way to the left until you're perfectly straight.

When you're perfectly straight. Pull up just a little. I mean like, 1 foot. Make sure you pull up straight. Now again, put the wheel all the way to the left and keep going all the way to the left slowly. You need to be watching the butt of the trailer and the front of the trailer above the drive axles area. When you see the front of the trailer cross the cones and the back of the trailer within the cones then you know you're in. I pull up 1 foot to avoid getting too far to the back and crushing the cones.

For alley dock. A lot of it is all about how you do the set up. As you cross the cones make a sharp right then a sharp left. You should be slanted with the butt of the trailer facing the destination. Watch the trailer tires! Back up and get those tires about half a foot close to the left cone. As you begin to cross the left cone do a pull up. This will make it so that the butt of your trailer is a few feet away from the destination and it'll regain your control over the trailer. Now back up and slowly bend your trailer to the destination. You should either have it in there by now or if not do another pull up and straighten yourself out completely against the dock. Then just back it in.

Like my friend old school said. Everyone has different techniques and this is what passed me.

Posted:  5 years, 9 months ago

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Favorite technique for the Alley Dock Backing and Parallel Parking

I think i have got these things down in principle but any advice would be appreciated

Posted:  5 years, 9 months ago

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Bad CDL school experience...need advice please...

Thanks Brett I will spend only a couple days on the practice range here on my own and then do my test maybe they will let me fall in with the training part and i can pick it up from there. the head of the program said that would be fine my extra seasonal job ends in another week and a half so i will have only 2 days of work after that and thats when i will use the 5 other days of the week to practice and test out I think i have the principles of backing down now so I'm gonna do what you said and go ahead and test out do you know if there is a time limit on the skills control part of the test in Florida ? and how much time do they generally give you for each backing maneuver if there is a limit?

Hey studpuppy28 - I've been following along with the conversation but Old School was doing an awesome job with you so I was just waiting for an opportunity to contribute. I've been thinking that you're obsessing about knowing and practicing all you possibly can before testing and now I see why:

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I wanna know the exact techniques of backing so that i can eventually become a teacher myself i have a Masters Degree in Secondary Education already and am a veteran teacher but i wanna teach CDL school in the long range future maybe as one of my side jobs

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Trucking is a trade and 98% of everything you'll need to know to be a true professional driver you'll learn on the road. Practicing at the range and studying the CDL manual is going to do very little good at this point - you're holding yourself back tremendously. Getting your CDL really only means the very first part of your training is complete but even the states know that you'll be on the road with a trainer learning a lot more after that. And trust me - a few years from now when you really know your stuff you'll look back and realize almost none of it was learned before you got your CDL.

You're looking at getting your CDL as you would a Master's Degree - something that symbolizes you've mastered a certain subject area. You're looking to master the knowledge and techniques to ace the test. In trucking, getting your CDL pretty much means you know enough of the basics that they'll allow you to drive. But it's only the beginning.

You should have taken the test when they told you to. The reason they won't let you practice any longer is because they know you don't need it. All you're doing is wasting time and burning fuel. They wanted you to get the test over with so you could get out there and be a productive driver.

I would suggest trying to get the "academic approach" to learning how to drive a truck out of your mind and take a "tradesman's approach" to learning - you learn by doing it in the real world. Get on with it. Get that CDL and move forward. If you fail the test, so what? You just take it again. No big deal.

And sitting on the range practicing or driving around town learning to drive is doing nothing toward giving you the knowledge to become a teacher at a Truck Driving School. You have to get out there in the real world and learn that kind of knowledge.

So stop wasting your time on practice ranges. Take that test, get your CDL, and get out there doing it. That's how it works in trucking. The CDL isn't the pinnacle of your learning experience. In fact, it's barely the beginning of it.

Posted:  5 years, 9 months ago

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Bad CDL school experience...need advice please...

of course i will still have to shell out the money for what they DID actually teach me and thats fine so long as i get my certificate and even if they challenged me a jury would agree or a judge those kinda cases almost always end in an agreement that is a win-win for both parties but like i said i just want everyone to be happy and my teacher could not help that his rig broke down that was a fluke that time down shot up our practice time see what I mean? but yeah i will practice with these driver friends i know they said they would go to an independent yard and practice with me and im riding over the road with them in late sept i think everything will work out and i will keep you aprised although it may be December until im on my own I've got several companies trying to talk to me about coming on board with them I already have my permit and aced that the first day I missed 2 questions out of all 3 sections but I wanna know the exact techniques of backing so that i can eventually become a teacher myself i have a Masters Degree in Secondary Education already and am a veteran teacher but i wanna teach CDL school in the long range future maybe as one of my side jobs If we ever meet on the road, me and you gotta sit down for one of those nice East Texas catfish dinners somewhere and maybe a game of Friday night football too

Go get em man! I can't wait to hear the outcome of all this. good-luck.gif

Posted:  5 years, 9 months ago

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Bad CDL school experience...need advice please...

Thanks for all the encouraging tips and advice and you are right. i will try to see if they will let me come back and do a refresher and try the test but I actually wanna get the cdl here on my own and i just wanna finish the school to get the certificate and the head of the program likes me so he has the say he told me to take my time and come back when ready now i just need to find a vet driver up there to help me in the refresher and then im done and yeas the fleet manager teacher and dispatcher all agreed that I am a good driver on the 2nd day i was driving the truck all by myself and i drove the northeast and midwest like IL IN OH etc and pulled mountains in W VA TN and KY too I drove all over 23 states and so I just need to practice my backups and i will be ready i could prolly pass the test now but i wanna be for certain i can when i try it for the first time and if i ace the pre-trip like i did in practice i can have points to spare when i do the skills control and road test and im not gonna miss many on that i know the 8 or 9 things you must do on the road test like for example when we pass a bridge the examiner WILL ask you what the height sign said and I know what to do at RR crossings and not to shift in turns etc etc and we can make 28 errors so i should pass and if not yeah i will retake it til i get it and yeah i am ready to make the money my job now is bland but it pays the bills i am also an armed guard now bodyguard too i just passed my gun license test with my 38 calibre revolver i bought. so i have jobs i can do as backup but with a cdl you can do many things so thats one reason i wanna

Studpuppy, at this point I wouldn't dwell on worrying about that contract and whether or not they did their part or not. It serves no purpose at this point - it will only get you into a legal fight with them and one you probably can't win. I know it's hard to accept that feeling that you've been wronged, I've been there and done that. I'm old enough to know that feeling many times over. You've just got to move past it and realize that you've got to do what it takes to get that CDL and that certificate. It sounds like you can still do it.

I say jump on the chance to go take your test. If for some reason you fail (and I seriously doubt that is going to happen) it's okay, it's not the end of the world - you just schedule a new time and go do it again. If you fail, it shows you which are the things that you need to concentrate on while you're waiting for your next test date. I tried to explain it before that they are not looking for perfection on that test, so don't overburden yourself thinking that you've got to execute everything flawlessly. With the driving you've done in the Northeast I'm pretty sure you've got what it takes to get this done even if you are in a difficult state for testing.

I seriously want you to let us know how this turns out. I don't know why but I took a keen interest in you from the moment I read your first post. I want to see you get past this and move on into your career. It appears to me you've got what it takes to be a great truck driver and I'd like to see you get in there and start making some money at this instead of heading back to whatever it was you were doing before this all got started.

I'm saying whatever you have to do to get this behind you, I'd do it. If they want you to do a refresher or whatever, just get it behind you. There's a rewarding career ahead of you just waiting for you to step in and enjoy it, and you don't want to waste too much time on worrying whether or not you got cheated or not. It's simply not worth the time and effort when you can go ahead and do what you've got to do to get it behind you.

Posted:  5 years, 9 months ago

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Bad CDL school experience...need advice please...

No, they didn't exactly fire me, they said I was a good driver especially for a complete newbie at the time. they just told me that I couldn't stay and practice more because they didn't have a trainer available to stay at the terminal and like I said my teacher lost two weeks of time that he should have been at the terminal teching me because his rig broke down in a state far far away from the terminal. and no I have not even taken the CDL test yet. and yes, I've got a couple of companies wanting to talk to me about working for them. In fact, I'm about to go on the road again with one of their vet drivers and also another one also. so what I didn't learn from my company teacher, I am going to learn from these guys. and they are going to practice with me on a rented yard and then I will take my test they have their own examiner and equipment only 25/hour to rent the rig. I could also take my test here on my own like i just said and then go do a refresher up at that school and then they would give me my certificate does that sound reasonable to you?

Kinda looks to me like company sponsored school, you got your cdl but they fired you from the company cause you couldnt pass your company test in after 6 weeks on the road? Am I accurate? If so im not sure they can hold you liable but you should have a certificate and could get hired by another company that reimburses tuition.

Posted:  5 years, 9 months ago

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Bad CDL school experience...need advice please...

OldSchool, thanks so much for the tips on the backing and parallel maneuvers and the school was a company-sponsored school. It is in one of the hardest states to take the test ( spaces are shorter and narrower. The skip pad range is where you practice backing and skills controls, and also where you take the skills control part of the test and the pre-trip. the rig was owned by the company and my teacher was leasing it from them. The way their program is set up, you are supposed to do the school part first then go on the road for training. and I asked the fleet manager if they had a different teacher or another driver that was available while they were at the terminal to help me practice more and teach me, but he refused . and all the trucks were either being used to teach the other students or in regular use elsewhere. and yes, I have not even attempted the real test yet but yes , I could probably pass it because I aced the pre-trip in practice and did okay on the skills control in practice. I just want them to let me finish my practicing so i can be sure that I will pass when I take the test. The company and I had a contract and they did not fulfill their part because they did not finish teaching me. My teacher spent too much time on the road and not enough on the range, but remember I said that his rig broke down for two weeks and we were in a state far far away from the terminal. I agree with you. I wanna try and just practice the last week or two and then take the test. I think that's reasonable enough. do you agree?

Studpuppy, I'm still curious, you keep referring to a fleet manager, so are you at a company sponsored training program? You said the person in charge of the whole training program still wants you to be there, but you also make it sound like there are no trucks available for you to train in - I'm just not getting it! If the person in charge wants you there why can't you be there? What kind of truck driving program doesn't have trucks for you to train in? I'm really not dense, but you're not giving me much to go on. I genuinely want to help you, but can't make sense out of the situation based on the information you're giving us.

But I'm going to stress again that you've got to have that training certificate. You're going to be up a creek without a paddle if you can't get that certificate.

I'm strictly going on assumption here, but if this is a company sponsored program I recommend that you get them to make you an appointment for your test. I think you can pass that test with ease based on the driving experiences you've told us about. If you've got your CDL then they will put you to work and you can move forward and get this behind you. Nobody feels they are fully prepared when they go test out and the people at the DMV know that they are dealing with people who are just barely getting started. They aren't looking for perfection, they are simply looking to see if you know how to be safe and have a little confidence in what you are doing. If you've been driving in the North East for two months you've got way more skills than you need to pass that test.

Don't let that parallel park thing hold you back. Unless you're testing in Texas you may not even have to do that procedure, but if you do here's some advice. It's not that hard to do, and the main thing is that you don't bump the curb with a tire. Even if you're truck is six feet away from the curb when you finish the maneuver it only counts off your score about 4 points. It's not a pass or fail issue unless you bump the curb. All you've got to do is get the trailer backing up and heading in the right direction (idle speed only) toward the curb, then straighten up the cab with your trailer so that you can take a peek in the mirror at the tandems and the curb so you've got an idea how you're coming, then you turn the wheel again to adjust based on what you saw in the mirror, then you will straighten up again and look in that mirror to see how it's coming, then you can turn the other way to get your cab and trailer lined up with each other somewhat parallel with the curb. Trust me, you can do it real sloppy and they will only take off a few points. You can also get out and look (G.O.A.L.) and you are also allowed three pull ups in Texas. You will hardly ever be needing to parallel park in the real world, but the reason a few states have it on their test is just to give the tester an idea about your understanding of how the trailer reacts in a backing situation, and I think you've got more than enough of that based on what you've told us.

Posted:  5 years, 9 months ago

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Bad CDL school experience...need advice please...

He is a trainer at a company sponsored school it was a company truck he did not finish his teaching tasks while we were on the pad i don't wanna pay them unless they let me finish the school and give me my certificate tht was the agreement and they have to fulfill their part of the contract. It's not my fault that my teacher's truck broke down and we didn't makeit back to the terminal yard in time to finish practicing. Plus he stayed out on the road way too long wanting to get loads. The company paid him to teach me but he took the cash and PLUS got the loads ya see what I mean ? he was earning double and if they paid him for my driving miles he actually made triple

So what you haven't told us yet is if you were in a private trucking school, or at an actual trucking company learning to drive from their company sponsored training. Who is "they"? Whose truck broke down? Is he a trucking company driver/trainer, or an instructor at a trucking school? This is all good information needed to help advise you. Thanks.

Posted:  5 years, 9 months ago

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Bad CDL school experience...need advice please...

Old school, I asked them to let me finish my course the fleet manager said no there wasn't enough time. I have yet to be taught the parallel parking and my teacher only did a few of the maneuvers a couple of times each. That is not adequate to learn proper backing. My teacher's rig broke down for two weeks almost and that caused us to miss valuable time on the pad that we were supposed to have. I asked them to let me practice with a driver who was willing on his off hours and stay at the pad and train with me and they said No again. The person in charge of the whole training program wants me to be there but the fleet manager is not aware of this and has told me no so far. does that help explain it?

Studpuppy, you've got to help me out here. I'm even more confused now, and I want to help you out. My concern is that you get a certificate for your training. That certificate is more important for a new driver than the CDL itself. No one will hire a new driver without that certificate - it is going to be required by their insurance carrier that you successfully completed so many hours of certified training. And the only acceptable proof of that is the certificate.

Now, from your response it sounds like you were in a company sponsored training program. Am I right in that assumption? And are you still in that program? Because if you left and didn't finish they will be hounding you for payment for what they did. Fill in some details for me and I'll do my best to advise you on what to do.

Posted:  5 years, 9 months ago

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I am getting nervous & excited at the same time but need advice .....

hey Mandy, you might wanna take a variety of gloves one thick leather pair for handling truck and trailer parts and one comfortable light duty pair I like to wear the brown cotton gloves they r comfortable but when driving you wanna use just your hands to help feel the gears and steering wheel characteristics etc oh and if you have a set of two way radios take them and/or a voice headset the other students can talk 2 you on them when you r practicing your back ups on the yard usually its a cluster of students together with a teacher like between 3 and 5 students while standing around watch and learn from the others mistakes. have the students call out how far you have left to go when backing up have a student on each side and the teacher will be there as well. also get familiar with the degrees of turn in the steering wheel and look down and see how your steer tires are responding look at where you are and do good setups on the range when backing aim your trailer tandems toward where you wanna be so when u get close to the space front, all you need to do is adjust your angle and go in the space also find a remote stretch of road and practice your gear shifting also when you do your road driving while you are in the passenger seat, take a small pocket voice recorder and hold it and ask your teacher lots of questions while they are there and speak what they said into it then play it back when u need it on the road test if you remember the 8 or 9 no-nos and avoid them, then you will make few errors if any and have plenty of points to pass the test you can have like 28 errors and pass so if you ace the pre-trip and the backing up, you can lose points on the road test and still pass easily the hardest part of the pre-trip is the air brakes part its not hard really just important and you can use a memory aid strategy to remember the parts of the truck n trailer you need to call off etc

Posted:  5 years, 9 months ago

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Need advice on shifting gears smoothly and easily...

Mark, I think she means like when you hit 25mph on road speed the RPMs will already be at the right spot to shift up to 7th, then at 35mph, shift to 8th, then at 45mph go to 9th gear and at 55mph, you should be in 10th thats the way i did it when I drove the truck in other words, with a ten speed, at every 10 mph increase, you shift up a gear

Posted:  5 years, 9 months ago

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Need advice on shifting gears smoothly and easily...

Thanks so much RedGator great advice i am writing that down to use in practice i think with your and star car's and Daniel b.'s advice i can markedly improve my gear shifting i'm not saying I can't shift heck i drove all over the northeast and we got everywhere pretty smoothly i just wanna be a master gear shifter i got the upshifting down it's the downshifting that's more troublesome the 2 plus 5 thing is great what about the next part? what do you mean by 10,20, 30? and yes I drove a 10 speed double clutch it was a freightliner cascadia model i believe by the way, what is the best gear for city driving like when you are on an expressway that is rather open but has frequent redlights? and what's the best gear for a congested city area ? I will give you some cash tips if i see you on the road for these answers okay IF i get on the road again

The advice I was given applies to a 10 speed or 9 speed only. Look at your speed gage and it will almost always tell you your gear. 25 (2+5=7) shift on the tens (10, 20, 30ect) low side shift between 1000 and 1200 rpms, highside shift between 1500 and 1700 rpms. Downshift at 1000 to 1200 and rev to 1400. Now every truck varies alittle but this is just a guide and really helps if you lose a gear.

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Bad CDL school experience...need advice please...

Old school: i didn't finish cuz they wouldn't let me practice backing up thats the part we didnt have time for becuz my teacher's truck broke down for two weeks and that was the time we needed to be on the pad practicing i have yet to be taught the parallel parking maneuvers my instructor told the fleet manager and dispatcher i was a good driver on the 2nd day out on the road across america , I was doin most of the driving we were out almost 2 months so that is my experience and i am still new i was all over New England and NY and PA mostly never got a ticket never did anything wrong i could pass the test tomorrow probably but i wanna be certain i havent taken it yet except for the permit which i aced the first time i missed only 2 questions on the written test for the permit but i still have a lot to learn and my teacher was not wanting to stay and practice with me since he lost two weeks drive time because of his broken down truck u r from Nac? I am from East TX too glad 2 know ya

Studpuppy, welcome to the forum! I'm a little confused here, because your profile shows you as an experienced driver, but then you've got this question about your schooling. But, I'm gonna assume you are just getting into this, and since we don't have a whole lot of detailed information from you I'm going to take a stab at answering this and hope I'm interpreting the missing facts correctly.

You say you "didn't finish". Does that mean you quit? It's hard for me to imagine a legitimate driving school to just drop you and not get you to the point of being ready for the driving test. Not many of us felt like we were really ready for it when we went for our driving test, and we get folks in here all the time begging for advice because they are so anxious about their driving test. No one becomes a professional driver at Truck Driving School, all they do is barely get you far enough along so that you can pass the test and get your CDL. That's why when you get a job as an inexperienced truck driver you will spend about a month in a truck with a trainer whose job is to try his best to get you finished off a little bit just so they can start to feel a little bit comfortable with turning you loose in one of their high dollar pieces of equipment.

Driving a truck proficiently takes time and lots of practice. All during your first year as a driver you will be continually learning everyday. There is just no way for you to become proficient by going through a school. If you are still in school I encourage you to go take the driving test, your instructors would not have wanted you to test if they didn't think you could pass.

If I'm totally wrong in my assessment here I apologize, but I just have a hard time believing they just didn't take the time to get you far enough along to pass the driving test.

Posted:  5 years, 9 months ago

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And Im officially a trainer:)

Congratulations redgator so what are the class and cert. requirements to become a trainer?

Posted:  5 years, 9 months ago

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Need advice on shifting gears smoothly and easily...

Thanks Daniel B. well you know my screen name here at this website and so when I get my test done and on the road, I will let ya know where I will be heading one day and buy that dinner for ya in return for the advice you gave or for future advice I'm going to spend sept and october practicing backing exercises more and road driving in city areas with a veteran driver teacher so i expect to be on the road sometime early spring maybe maybe sooner safe journeys my friend

Posted:  5 years, 9 months ago

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Need advice on shifting gears smoothly and easily...

Hey don't worry I deliver on my promises one day you will come across me and my girlfriend on the road and we will sit down and shoot the breeze over a nice dinner and dessert on me. I also have to work on my backing up exercises like alley dock and blind sided paralllel i think i can do them for the test i did them okay in practice did my alley dock right 3 times in a row 1st try 12 minutes of a 15 minutes allowed 2nd try 7:45 3rd try did it in 6:33 i aced my pre-trip and can pass the road test too this will be my 1st attempt for a CDL test i havent tried the actual test yet I am anxious to finish it and get on the road again I'm waiting for the offseason of my current job to arrive in a few weeks so i can have 5 days off to practice on the skidpad range Here in Florida the spaces are 100 feet long and 12 feet wide so I should do well. In Missouri they were only 84 feet long and much narrower one more question Daniel B.... you can take each section of the CDL test on separate days right??? did you have a time limit on your skills control section of your test??? seems some states do and others don't

Haha! Ill remember that offer ;)

That essay is needed. Downshifting and up shifting is very lengthy and difficult to understand. The more details I give you, the more you understand. Everyone else here at TT seems to be busy tonight so I'm covering the forum tonight :) I've already done my 500 miles today so I have the entire evening off I didn't mind spending 10 minutes to type that to help you out.

Just remember to not over think it. It really is pretty easy. It's just one of those things that practice makes perfect.

Posted:  5 years, 9 months ago

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Need advice on shifting gears smoothly and easily...

Just try not to over think of, I promise it gets easier. Pretty soon you won't even have to think about it!

Thanks Special K I've pretty much gotten a handle on the upshifting, now i'm gonna take all the advice I've received and what my teacher taught me and my own experiences and combine them so i can master downshifting which is harder than upshifting. I'm getting there though

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