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Posted:  1 month, 3 weeks ago

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Terminated by Schneider

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I love the tone of elitism you express as a truck driver: you’re a truck driver. You’re a loser, probably overweight, and a slave. Trying to condescend me is laughable. Ooooo I’m not good enough for Schneider oh I’m so ashamed of myself because my measure of self worth is my ability to drive a truck and be someone’s *****. If this endeavor doesn’t work, I’ll do something else with my life. I don’t put up with bull**** and follow stupid rules. Maybe you do and if you live your life that way that’s fine! Good for you. I don’t.

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Another classic reaction! I love calling someone out and then watching them have a meltdown because they're embarrassed how easily you were able to see through their entire charade. Classic. It must be hard realizing you're not as clever as you thought you were.

You're not even smart enough to realize that your reaction just totally gave you away, not that I believed much of anything you said to begin with.

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you’re a truck driver. You’re a loser, probably overweight, and a slave.

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Wow, are you ever right about anything???

I'm not a truck driver anymore and I'm certainly not a loser. I'm a retired truck driver who had a fantastically fun and safe and successful 15 year career and now I'm a very successful business owner. I'm certainly not a slave, whatever that means in 2019. I'm also in fantastic shape.

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Trying to condescend me is laughable

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Actually it was easy......

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Ooooo I’m not good enough for Schneider oh I’m so ashamed of myself because my measure of self worth is my ability to drive a truck and be someone’s *****

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Says the guy who was just booted to the curb and is on his way back to his mom's basement and his video games.

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If this endeavor doesn’t work, I’ll do something else with my life

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I've got news for you. It's already not working, and it's not going to. You can't see that yet, but I've been watching this same story play out for 25 years. It always ends the same way.

Well, I guess that wraps up this mystery. Great job, Christian. You've made a monumental ass out of yourself. I knew you would accidentally reveal your true nature and the essence of what really happened if we let you keep talking.

Man, that was fun.

Next!

Sounds like you took that personally, mission accomplished. Lol. Was hoping you’d ban me as a moderator I’ve been banned from like 10 forums. It’s an art form. One of us takes themselves too seriously and it’s not me.

I did tell my DBL to “go **** himself” so do you think I should send him a card or something? But i’m Not an ass kisser and that’s no way to get ahead in life. It’s about being able to live with yourself at the end of the day. Once you give that up you have nothing. On the company driver side of things, it’s about sucking up, taking your lashings, not questioning authority, and allowing yourself to be stepped all over and taken advantage of. Humility has nothing to do with it.

Posted:  1 month, 3 weeks ago

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Terminated by Schneider

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If this is their new “standard” for safety, I am willing to concede that I am too “unsafe” to drive their new trucks. If Schneider insists on operating in this manner, I simply don’t want to drive for them.

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I agree - you're not safe enough to drive their trucks and the fact that they put you on a bus home tells me they really aren't interested in having you drive for them any longer. I don't think it's your choice, and I don't believe they're extending an olive branch to bring you back. I think it's your way of trying to convince us you were right and they were wrong, but of course conveniently you won't accept their offer to continue driving for them. I think a lot of this story is just propaganda. I'm confident that if we heard Schneider's side of the story it would be shockingly different than what we've been told thus far.

I love the tone of elitism you express as a truck driver: you’re a truck driver. You’re a loser, probably overweight, and a slave. Trying to condescend me is laughable. Ooooo I’m not good enough for Schneider oh I’m so ashamed of myself because my measure of self worth is my ability to drive a truck and be someone’s *****. If this endeavor doesn’t work, I’ll do something else with my life. I don’t put up with bull**** and follow stupid rules. Maybe you do and if you live your life that way that’s fine! Good for you. I don’t.

Posted:  1 month, 3 weeks ago

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Terminated by Schneider

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The company is standing by the critical events, saying they are all valid, when they are literally all completely nonsense

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Christian, these kind of remarks is what makes your tale seem implausible. I noticed you also stated your DBL mentioned insubordination - that adds another twist to this crazy situation.

You describe the critical events as "complete nonsense." Schneider claims they are valid. Somebody has reviewed them and determined that.

You describe your insubordination as not answering a phone call that you never received. Can you expect anyone to believe that?

We are all drivers here. We understand the issues and frustration with the sensors. What doesn't make sense is your denials in the face of their confirmations that the triggered events are valid.

Taking personal responsibility is an important trait out here. I hope you can figure this all out, because I can't make any sense of it by hearing only your side of the story.

I know. I literally went into the office and looked at several critical stability events that were bogus, with my DBL, who confirmed that he couldn’t say how the event was triggered, yet they turn around and insist that no they are all valid.

This is what makes no sense to me. I have 5 stability events to my knowledge that occurred on straight aways, and then you hear that they were reviewed and they are legitimate. you can believe me or not, but I’ve been driving for 6 months with recording only one event. The simple fact is the company and the truck are wrong, which is why I will not be willing to come back. If this is their new “standard” for safety, I am willing to concede that I am too “unsafe” to drive their new trucks. If Schneider insists on operating in this manner, I simply don’t want to drive for them.

Posted:  1 month, 4 weeks ago

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What I get from reading this series of events,

if I was you Christian, the 6 months with 1st truck and no events, I'd use that. Explaining in calm and relaxed fashion, that most if not all of those critical events (26?) between you, and your co-driver have to be related somehow to the New truck's system ! Since it "sounds" like all your troubles started with the new truck Because it seems you both racked up way too many so quick, to not have been told something, by someone,way before this all transpired!

Funny, how your 1st DBL quit/left while you were on home time?? Not knowing how you and he got along or not, or if ya'll had some bad blood for some reason?

All I know is,if it was me and my lively hood at stake, I'd try like hell to remedy the problem, and not just ''go away'' so easily.........But I don't know as much yet ,since am not driving yet ....

Yes the problem is that they are confirming that 100% it is the new truck’s system and saying that as a driver It shouldn’t make a difference and that we shouldn’t be getting them regardless because they are flagrant safety violations, which is absolutely nonsense. They have nothing to do with safety. It’s About playing a game now and trying to figure out what makes the system trigger those critical events, and I apparently suck at this game.

Posted:  1 month, 4 weeks ago

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Terminated by Schneider

The sensors are crazy, and have given me weird critical events as well. Some of them don't even get back to my DBL for some reason. I just had a stability control the other day turning into traffic. I was going 6 mph and hit a bump. I think when the wheel is turned, these things are super sensitive. I also had training on the new truck after two critical events. A stability control event, and a hard braking. The difference is as soon as I saw how sensitive the new truck is, these things would not have triggered my old truck, I asked for more training. Now I talk to myself every time I turn. It has been working mostly. I did have a critical event recently where it actually said I crashed the truck. Never triggered to the company. I was driving in a construction zone and it got wonky because a sign was ahead and it lightly put on the brakes and flashed red. Then I turned because the road turned and it triggered a collision critical event. With this said, I can't believe Schneider terminated you. They very much try not to. I'm not sure if you had an attitude, or something else happened. Good luck.

This my issue with this whole thing, where my DBL was trying to misrepresent my attitude toward safety. I DO endorse safe driving practices, but when you drive in a certain manner and have NO stability issues, and then are given a new truck and have stability issues for the same driving behaviors...how can you hold your drivers accountable without proper retraining or allowing for a transition? how can a company count those critical events against you? And then furthermore, it’s not even an actual safety issue, because they don’t care about safety-they just care about the critical events. They don’t care what the ramifications are, or what these things actually mean, or how they actually work, just that you are beholden to them under the false pretense of “safety.” They won’t even acknowledge that the collision monitoring system can just be plain dangerous for drivers. They won’t even acknowledge that the stability events are triggered when there is no loss of stability, just that you don’t get them, without further analyzing the technology. And frankly, if this is the direction the industry is going in, I’m not sure I want to be part of it. And good luck finding or keeping drivers if you’re going to throw them to the curb over things like this.

Posted:  1 month, 4 weeks ago

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The sensors are crazy, and have given me weird critical events as well. Some of them don't even get back to my DBL for some reason. I just had a stability control the other day turning into traffic. I was going 6 mph and hit a bump. I think when the wheel is turned, these things are super sensitive. I also had training on the new truck after two critical events. A stability control event, and a hard braking. The difference is as soon as I saw how sensitive the new truck is, these things would not have triggered my old truck, I asked for more training. Now I talk to myself every time I turn. It has been working mostly. I did have a critical event recently where it actually said I crashed the truck. Never triggered to the company. I was driving in a construction zone and it got wonky because a sign was ahead and it lightly put on the brakes and flashed red. Then I turned because the road turned and it triggered a collision critical event. With this said, I can't believe Schneider terminated you. They very much try not to. I'm not sure if you had an attitude, or something else happened. Good luck.

JuSt an update...

This situation is wrong on so many levels. Apparently was not terminated? The word came from my DBL to get off the truck and sent me packing, but his manager reported to me today that no action was officially taken. Yet here I am, on a 64 hr greyhound without being able to use my CPAP machine, without all my belongings, on my way home.

The company is standing by the critical events, saying they are all valid, when they are literally all completely nonsense, but as everything was explained as I explained it in this post...the company is extending an olive branch and saying that this was handled improperly. Due process was not given to me, and there was a misunderstanding of the situation on both sides that lead to this point. But this whole thing has been such a grievance to me, that I feel philosophically opposed to given this another chance and just resigning in good faith right now and moving on with my career at another company.

Posted:  1 month, 4 weeks ago

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Terminated by Schneider

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Im confused as to why his co-driver was not terminated.

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My guess would be that 17 critical events in 60 days is grounds for termination with Schneider, and 9 hasn't reached that threshold?

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This is a good question, actually. It suggests that they either are reviewing the incidents and have some criteria that some of my events are more valid than his? I might also say that my DBL had reported some insubordination on my part for ignoring his alleged phone calls, which he did not have the correct number even after I provided it to him. I can’t say for sure but that may be part of it.

Posted:  1 month, 4 weeks ago

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Terminated by Schneider

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I left the kingpin lock on the truck with my teammate, who is a close acquaintance.

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Was your teammate also terminated? Based on the above, seems like he is still on the truck.

Yes. Teammate has not been terminated. Teammate is not on good terms with company at this point however.

Posted:  1 month, 4 weeks ago

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I have triggered events on my truck, never heard anything about them so far as they are all reviewed.

We also have a policy where if you are terminated you have 30 days to protest in writing. If you do you are given a chance to state your case on a conference call and they then decide based on that if the termination is upheld or if you are reinstated. Does Schinder have something similar?

I don’t know I will have to pursue it.

I don’t know if The events were individually reviewed, and I don’t know what Schneider’s criteria is for evaluating those events, but crucially, never once has the truck’s stability been compromised since I’ve been driving. Which is really all that matters and what makes no sense about this. There are no actual real stability issues that I’ve encountered, yet I have all these events and my teammate has experienced similar. If Schneider was looking at them, they would know or either they do not care. I take safety seriously, We all do, I would hope. But when you are turning left from a stop at a light and register a critical event, or are driving on a straightaway and register a critical event, as a driver you cannot take that seriously and there is nothing you can reasonably do. And this fell on deaf ears apparently. I mean, when you are creeping towards a fire hydrant and your truck registers a forward collision event and hard breaks your truck to a full stop, which has also happened to me, what am I supposed to make of that?

Posted:  1 month, 4 weeks ago

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Terminated by Schneider

No DBL at Schneider has the authority to fire a driver. That decision has to come from higher up in management. That info came straight from my DBL. Now the DBL may be the one who delivers the bad news, but they are only the messenger.

Schneider has a written grievance policy and procedure. It's available to all employees and drivers. In that policy, it explains what to do and how to do it. It also explains what the company will do and what the time frame is. Christian should pursue this process if he feels he's been thrown under the semi. Christian can probably initiate this process online when he gets home.

Christian, I have one question. If they are sending you home on the bus, are you able to take all your truck stuff with you? Most drivers carry way more stuff than they can get to the bus station and get loaded. Just by itself, the driver's kingpin lock is heavy and bulky and is the driver's property. How are you managing this?

I will initiate this process just to hopefully clear my name and be able to move on from this debacle.

I left the kingpin lock on the truck with my teammate, who is a close acquaintance. my DBL refused to route me up north although I made this appeal to him that sending me home on a bus was impractical, but he said that was not possible. I actually had driving for 5 days after the last critical event for which I was technically terminated, which was something else that made no sense to me.

Posted:  1 month, 4 weeks ago

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I read through this and it makes no sense to me either. First off your stuck for the weekend, not forever. Fighting city hall today won’t get you anywhere. I think your best bet is to head home and as soon as you get there contact the safety folks at the closest terminal. They should be able to investigate the situation. At a minimum it sounds like someone was neglegent by letting so many CE’s pile up before addressing it. You need to own your parts as well. This is a snowball rolling down a steep hill at this point. No matter what, you need more resolution than this if you want to stay in this business. As an employer I can guarantee you if I saw a DAC with that on it I would be very cautious to say the least. I drove some older trucks with the safety stuff on them, however it’s been awhile ago so I’m not up on that stuff.

Yes. After we went home for our first week after 6 weeks out, we got back to the truck and my first correspondence was an email with a new DBL, essentially threatening to put me out of service if I did not very in contact with him. He had apparently sent messages and made attempted phone calls to me, which I never received, until that email and upon calling him I was issued the CTE. Our previous DBL had never contacted me about critical events and apparently had quit while we were on leave at home.

Posted:  1 month, 4 weeks ago

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Terminated by Schneider

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This is really bugging me, as I'm sure it also is Christian. Any triggered events have got to be reviewed, otherwise nobody learns anything from them. Is your DBL the final word on these reviews? Do you guys mean to tell me no one else looks into these matters before your Schneider DBL gives you the axe? That seems really strange, but so does this whole story.

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I actually dont know how he got so many without talking to anyone else, I've had my fair share of events and I always talked to someone from safety face to face, and I even had to give a written statement on what I'll do to prevent the same mistakes in the future.

I'm doing good these days, but I made a lot of mistakes early on. So seems he's leaving some parts of the story out, unless they handle team drivers differently.

That’s what I thought as well? The situation does not make sense to me either. I don’t understand how we got from point A to point B and it’s the weekend so I was not able to talk to anyone else. I live in CT, and was lampooned at the OC in Phoenix and given a greyhound ticket departing today. I just cannot help but feel an immense amount of disrespect and disservice done to me in the period of literally 3 weeks after driving dutifully for 6 months, hence my negative opinion of Schneider.

So what if any steps can I take from here?

Posted:  1 month, 4 weeks ago

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Christian, I for one, believe your story. There is obviously a problem with the computer system/ systems on your truck. I would very calmly and professionally take this up the Chain of Command within the Company. You may not be rehired, ( or want to continue your employment with Schneider), but, it is crucial to resolve this issue, with documentation, as to not hinder your future prospects. Hang in there. There are so many things to deal with as a rookie out here. To put this on top of an already stressful situation is tough. Whatever you do, keep calm, and don't let your emotions get in the way of resolving this.

Well I appreciate that sentiment. To the best of my understanding I am accurately representing what happened. I think you have a rookie DBL and a rookie driver in myself both maybe not handling the situation properly. I did not do my part in defending myself, and although I don’t expect to work for Schneider anymore it’s just hard to accept that I might have to suffer down the road for this. I was driving safely and responsibly to the best of my knowledge and ability and I wanted to stop getting those critical events, but I just couldn’t avoid it. The cruise control did not work on the truck initially, for example, and the company did not believe us and the techs found no issue with it until Freightliner sent out a notice to Schneider about it. This could be a similar issue but I cannot confirm that.

Posted:  1 month, 4 weeks ago

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I've only had a few minor critical events in my career, but they were always dealt with by "safety personnel." If my driver manager was involved I didn't know of it.

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Schneider handles it a bit differently, you'll talk to your DBL about these events and they'll take your statement and after you have had a few within 30 days, they'll bring you in for extra training and that's where you'll talk to someone from safety, usually have to watch some videos and driving or backing depending on what happened.

Your DBL usually gives you some information on how to prevent them from happening again, if you didn't know what happened. but it's a pretty straight forward process and it doesn't make any sense if he went from having all these events to being fired without ever going through some type of extra training.

Stability Control events are basically the worse you can get, and to get so many so close together is either your own fault or the truck is messed up. But chances are, you were probably doing something that could have triggered it. The new trucks have 2 additional sensors then older Schneider trucks so they are must more sensitive.

this is accurate. I just wasn’t brought in for additional training, the stability control events were being treated as very serious, although nothing was happening, and my understanding from my conversation with my DBL is that my driving was deemed too risky as a result to even be eligible for retraining or taking other steps.

If what you say is true about the sensors, this is where is where I feel blind sided. I was trained and drove on a system For which I was not triggering stability control events. upon getting the new truck, I began triggering these without changing my driving habits and just was not able to adapt. I’m not sure that I was given due process and did not deal with this properly, and now will have to pay for it. That’s a bitter pill to swallow.

Posted:  2 months ago

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Christian, of all the critical events registered by Schneider, how many would you say were false positives and how many would you say were your fault?

That’s the conundrum. It’s impossible to determine that, really, which is essentially why they had to term me, in their words. There were simply too many, whether or not I was responsible for all or any of them. If you consider that I drove for 6 months with only one critical event...I don’t know to what extent I can even be held responsible for suddenly accumulating 17 in 2 months. Considering that I was never even at once remotely at risk of a rollover, are any my fault? I need to reiterate that these events were often being triggered on straight roads. It was impossible for to rectify my “dangerous driving behavior” when it was never established what behaviors were triggering these events.

It’s hard for anyone here to understand this situation if you have the shared traditional experience with the ESC system and how it operates, because these events are not easy to trigger, which was also my experience before I got this 2019 Freightliner. My driving habits did not change, yet I suddenly got stability controls left and right, and I couldn’t adjust my driving because it was never clear what was triggering those events. if there was a clear pattern, I could have easily learned and adapted.

Posted:  2 months ago

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This video shows an example of many of the stability controls we received. Crucially, my team mate and did not have an issue with getting stability controls for our first 6 months of driving, information that Schneider would have been privy to and you would think would have had some bearing on how they proceeded with this.

Posted:  2 months ago

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Ok, I don't get this. For one, as Rainy pointed out, why didn't you ask the shop to take a look at it if you thought there was something wrong with the truck?

For two, DBL's don't fire people and they're not the authority in a situation like this. After all of those incidents you never once spoke with anyone from the safety department about it? You didn't get any warnings or anything? No phone calls or messages over the Qualcomm? Just suddenly out of the blue you were fired?

For three, the truck's GPS will record the exact location of the truck when these events occurred. If you were getting these events in areas and circumstances that were obviously not prone to this type of event, like travelling at highway speed on a straight highway, the company would be able to look this up and see there was a pattern with it.

Though I haven't heard of anyone getting a truck with a faulty sensor, it's entirely possible. But where was your head during all of this? If you believed the truck was the problem, why weren't you contacting the shop and having conversations with the safety department?

Once again I don't feel like we're getting even 25% of the honest, complete story here but I'd like to hear some answers to those questions.

This is a completely transparent account of events.

We did ask the shop. In fact, we brought the truck in twice before they actually fixed our adaptive cruise control, which was not working. They could not even diagnose that. The mechanics said nothing about the ESC and I don’t believe they even looked into it.

I never spoke to anyone besides my DBL. The first I spoke to him on the phone, he issued the CTE, which is a 30 day “probation” type thing. If performance did not improve, I was to be terminated. I explained that I wasn’t sure what was triggering these events but that was largely ignored. He continued to contact me after further critical events, up until he informed me I was to be terminated.

We were routed through our OC briefly and we sat with him and went through about 5 separate incidents, where we analyzed the exact GPS location. I personally felt that this largely exonerated us, and that he confirmed this with us, because those pinpointed images showed fairly straight roads.

This is my first company, and I had no idea how to proceed with this issue.I don’t know how I should have handled it, largely because I assumed that it was a hardware problem or that the company would work with me to find a solution or that there would be some type of escalation to remedial training prior to termination, but this was not the case. I can’t help but feel this wasn’t handled by Schneider appropriately.

Posted:  2 months ago

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Hello and welcome.

I wish you would.have come to us earlier.... like before you racked up a dozen critical events in one month. And an additional 5.more.

Honestly, that is an insane amount. And I had a truck that previously rolled so the rollover sensored was greatly increased in sensitivity. With that said, did you not question to have the shop.adjust the sensitivity? What recourse did you take to rectify your driving? Once you knew what triggered it, you could.simply avoid it.

Safety features on trucks are not BS. You took turns too fast for that truck and didnt take the time to learn what speed was safe.

Termination will show up on your DAC so getting hired may be a challenge but not impossible depending on the rest of your record. Accidents or tickets?

You got 17...how many did your teammate get?

I believe 9? More than half were occurring on straight aways or roads with no obvious curvature. I would like to point out that we never had a problem until getting this new truck and our driving style had not changed. We appealed to our DBL but he made it very clear that he did not care and dismissed any allegations of faulty equipment. I was completely blind sided by this.

Posted:  2 months ago

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Story: after 6 months of driving dedicated for Schneider, My teammate and I switched to OTR. We received a new Freightliner and shortly thereafter began registering frequent stability control critical events. Previously I had only 1 stability control event in 6 months. I registered approximately 12 in one month of driving in the new truck, during which time my DBL quit and the new DBL issued me a CTE. I registered 5 more thereafter and was just terminated, 3 weeks after the CTE was issued, without recourse. Part of me is relieved to be done with Schneider and their bull**** but my question is is there any appeal I can make to the company? And if not, how will this affect future employment prospects?

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