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Posted:  1 year, 2 months ago

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Which Private School or go Company School?

I am coming out of retirement to drive again. Going to a local school, yesterday was my first day. I chose school for two reasons, (1) I can pick any company that suits my life style. And (2) being a senior the school gave me 50% discount on my training. My first training was with a company in 1999. And free, I got what I paid for, very poor training. My first day was more than all the training I got with the company/with a few exceptions. Today the school is closed because of snow storm. Most local companies will hire old timers for local and part time driving, which is right up my alley. I will bring more info as I can. Wish me well.

Posted:  3 years, 10 months ago

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Talk directly to my company of choice or no?

I can remember 15 years ago when I was looking to change my life from Salesman to truck driver and going to a local truck stop to look for a company I could see as my next commitment. I had picked out 2 or 3 from appearance that lookedgreat, however after I started driving for another company it didn't take long to get the skinny on a lot of different jobs from the drivers on the CB and at the truck stops. In short, trucking company's like women look good until you are with them for a while, and that time spent will teach you a tremendous amount about who is who. You will get experience the same way we all get it, (going through it), sometimes more than once. Good luck, keep the positive attitude.

Mountain Girl, everything Brett and Flatwater said is true and precisely what I meant by being presenting yourself in a professional manner. Do not speak against the school, even if you are tempted to, it leads nowhere. I understand your dilemma completely, those who were in here when I first started know that my first choice company rejected me, and I kept trying to get in, even spent a lot of money on some surgery to get past the physical, but it was not meant to be. Sometimes the door we want to walk through just will not open up for us, but you hang in there because you've got all the right qualities to make a real good go at this - we're all pulling for ya!

Posted:  3 years, 10 months ago

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Celadon lease purchase

Just one more example of leasing being a no no. Several years ago I was on my way back from a delivery in ohio and returning to the distribution center in Bedford PA . Another driver was running behind me on Rt 30 heading east, we were jawing on the CB he, was running as a company driver, and told me of his experiences on the road. One thing he mentioned was that he was a prisoner of war for 5 years. Knowing of his approximate age, I thought of Vietnam, but when I asked about that, he said no, that he meant the company he was leased to for 5 years. I will not name the name of the company as it has been a long time ago and it may be different now. He was now enjoying the less hectic life of a company driver, in fact, the reason he was on Rt 30 and not the interstate or turnpike, was to enjoy the scenery on the smaller roads. He regretted his leasing career.

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Wanted to touch back on this, im not a new driver i let my cdl go when i moved back to indiana due to lack of cash, i actually spoke to a gentleman that has been leasing from them for 4 years. He advised like i already planned is to put back money

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Richard, I'm not going to harp on what I already advised you, but do you not realize that what your fellow lessee just said was that you better be prepared ahead of time to be losing money? I understand business, and that it is a wise thing to be prepared for unexpected expenses, but you are preparing for losses that you are already expecting to have based on another lessee's experience. There is something about owning a big rig that is such an ego booster that people will throw all good sense right out of the window so that they can feel the rush of being an independent trucker. If you came by putting that six grand back through hard work and determination, I am very proud of you and know it wasn't easy in this economy. Do everything you can to hang on to it.

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i found what i needed from veteran participants.

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Richard, you found what you wanted, time well tell if it was really what you needed. I seriously wish you the best, but the trucking companies have this deck stacked in their favor, and that is the reason they have continued to pursue this strategy.

Posted:  4 years, 1 month ago

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Consequence For Having A CDL

I am in a similar situation and have contacted one of the trucking companies that TT has on it's company's that offer training page. Millis to be specific. Their recruiter said they would train just as if I had no CDL and gauge the amount of training I really need, based on performance and adjust accordingly. I have since changed my mind about returning to driving and decided to continue in retirement, and playing more golf. Good luck, I hope this helps you in some way. Phil

Indeed Starcar and Dave are right.

What you want to do is Apply For Truck Driving Jobs with the companies you're interested in. We also have another set of Truck Driving Jobs at that link.

Once you've applied, the companies that are interested will give you a pre-hire. For those who aren't familiar with the process we have an article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

The pre-hire will specify what the company will require from you as far as schooling. If it's a company with their own training program they'll likely just have you work through as much of it as they feel you need and get you on the road ASAP. If it's a company that does not have its own training program they will likely require you to take a refresher course at an independent truck driving school and they'll even specify how long the course has to be and which schools they'll approve.

So apply to trucking companies, see who offers you a pre-hire, and then do whatever training they require you to do.

Also, make sure you call every company you apply to persistently until you get a final response. Trucking companies spend a fortune on recruiting and half the time let the applications sit on a pile collecting dust. So make sure you get someone on the line and they give you an answer. Don't wait on them to call you.

Posted:  4 years, 1 month ago

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Lurkers!

Now, that last sentence is what I'd call a bit creepy.............what do you think?

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Thanks Anchorman. Its a good thing to encourage others to join. I know I have learnt lots from the Q/A and I am still learning new stuff. Just don't forget some of us "GIRLS" are truckers, newbie truckers and wannabe truckers - (referring to "Quit being a girl and sign up already".) Only the ratio is different.

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I have only one expectations females in the trucking industry......work at least as hard as I do and earn your money. Nothing more or nothing less.......I bet ya thought I was going somewhere else with this huh?smile.gif nope. I can be creepy but there are times and places for that....

Posted:  4 years, 1 month ago

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Quick question for those that are or were in IT......

To Jopa, I just took a look at Bill Wittle's web site and found a keeper. Thanks for the insight. I signed up for his newsletter.

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Unlike most businesses, there is no barrier to entry in the IT world. You don't need a fancy education. You don't need a license. You don't need office space, bureaucratic approval from corporate big wigs, or even your own physical hardware anymore. You can write your own software for free. You can build websites and rent server space for a few bucks a month. You can offer web-based services to the entire world by simply buying a $10 domain name, renting a $30/month virtual server, and writing code in the comfort of your own living room. And there is no limit to how big you can get other than your own knowledge and talents. If you have the knowledge and talent, there's no stopping you.

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Hey Brett, I know you are a very busy (and productive) person and I admire your efforts here at TT. There is a guy (not Guy - a guy) who has a website I think you would very much enjoy. He's a political animal and I don't know your politics but I can gleam from what you say that you are a sober thinker and a person who makes up his own mind. He started out on the internet as an essayist and had his own blog. His ability to inform and persuade was uncanny and he got picked up by a larger website, one of the "online TV" sites (PJTV) that was doing such a thing long before Glen Beck started his. The guy's name is Bill Whittle and his website is www.billwhittle.com. He really gets the reality you are talking about in the part I quoted from your last post. (This reality is effecting all aspects of our society/culture, not just the IT world). I think you would enjoy his political rants (he is very conservative) even if you don't agree with his view points. I would encourage anyone who reads the posts here at TT to check him out. It's not going to help your truck driving career in the least so don't waste your time if you are not interested political commentary as that is what the content is all about. However, I have been following his stuff for over five years and he is very insightful, funny and poignant. And entertaining.

Jopa

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Posted:  4 years, 2 months ago

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Per Diem pay for truck drivers

The company benefits by not having their matching portion of the taxes as high as if there were no per diem. The tax code allows a standard deduction of $59/day for those of us that are away from home for periods of time. The standard can be used or the exact amount can be used if you keep good records to back it up. The major difference between normal persons away from home and DOT regulated persons is that the DOT persons can take 80% of the amount as a deduction and the normal person can take only 50%. As a driver I would suggest all to take a look at the option if you have that choice and do your do diligence and of course the math. If you explore Trucking Truth's training companies there is one that offers per diem and you can see the differences in pay and benefits on their web site. On the surface there seems to be a substantial difference, however, when you figure the whole picture, there will be a surprise.

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why do trucking companies PAY per diem in the first place? Is it a regular thing or a rare, special circumstance thing?

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Since truckers get a lot of tax write-offs each year they give you a choice. You can either:

1) Get some of your income tax-free each week (getting per diem). This way you'll take home more money in each paycheck but you'll get a smaller tax return at the end of the year.

2) Get none of your income tax free each week. This way you'll take home less in each paycheck but get a huge tax return at the end of the year.

In the end it makes no difference really. You make the same amount of money. The only difference is in how they distribute it to you. They either take out the full amount of taxes and you'll get a huge tax return or they take out fewer taxes and you get a smaller tax return.

Posted:  4 years, 2 months ago

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Per Diem pay for truck drivers

The going rate for per diem is in 2013 and 2014 is $59.00 per day standard deduction, if you go out of the US into Canada and Mexico it is $65.00 per day and as a DOT regulated person, as driver are you can take 80% of the total as a tax deduction.

I know what Per Diem is. My question is:

Tons of companies offer it. But since newbies don't really know how it works, which is better.

Is it better to take per diem if your company offers it, or stay away from it?

I myself, like a big tax refund every year. But I read somewhere that almost always a driver makes out if the do take per diem.

Also. What is the going rate for per diem?

Keep it safe out there. Joe S

Posted:  4 years, 2 months ago

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Per Diem pay for truck drivers

After doing some research I have some numbers to report. If you are a DOT regulated person as commercial drivers are the per Diem amount in the US is $59/day if you drive into Canada or Mexico it is $65/day. You would have to file an itemized return but, the days you are on the road times $59 times 80% is the deduction you can take on tax day. As a company driver you would have to keep track of your days away from home (logs). So lets say we drive away from home 5 days a week for 51 weeks. 5 days X 51 weeks X $59 = $15045 X .8 = $12036 deduction on your taxes. (The 80% is for DOT regulated persons only) 50% for all others. Not peanuts at all!!

Yep the difference probably is peanuts. But not necessarily. I just used $1,500 as a random figure. That's why I say talk to a tax professional. And I agree that using the system as a savings account works for most people for exactly the reasons you said. But people should try to use a more efficient system, sadly though most people don't have the self control to not spend the money.

Posted:  4 years, 2 months ago

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Old timer thinking about coming back to OTR trucking.

Oh yeah the photo I posted was when I was 19 and the QB for the U of MD.

I have been retired for a number of years, and still have my CDL class A. I have 2 years OTR and 2 years driving a transport tanker. I am bored and have been thinking about driving again for 2-3 years until my girlfriend retires. I am 69 and in pretty good physical shape. I liked the dedicated over the road driving I did, but hated the hauling gasoline in the Washington DC area. The companies were great, hated the traffic. I am fishing for comments, Two years ago, I was hired as a part time short haul driver, but I had some issues with the system and never went to work. I know there is a lot of advice in this forum, thanks ahead of time.

Posted:  4 years, 2 months ago

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Old timer thinking about coming back to OTR trucking.

Thanks for all the info and advice, I am leaning towards going to one of the companies here on TT for training. I have spoken to one of their recruiters and they said I would have to go thru training with them. The only advantage I would have could be that the on the road training may be shortened. I went through a company training in 2000, that didn't give much training at all. Eleven days classroom and pad training and two weeks with an on the road trainer. I had other choices and chose this company because the others were about 6 weeks of training and I thought I didn't need that much training. (Big Ego) At my age now, and knowing what I know now I should have taken the longer training. I have stories about how the lack of early experience and training almost had horrible endings. (Only by the grace of God.) I became an on the road trainer for that same company and saw only a small portion of my students that I recommended to go forward. Scary.

You have a cdl...A mrs with an income..and your retired. Sounds like a good candidate for Reohl . They have great home time options.... and a shorter training time a lot of other companies .

Posted:  4 years, 2 months ago

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Wanting to drive with felonies

How long ago was your last felony? Is it true that the DAC only goes back 10 years?

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The only difference is you won't be taking the Combination Vehicles exam. Getting a Class B is a cake walk.

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Posted:  4 years, 2 months ago

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Wanting to drive with felonies

How long ago was your last felony?

The only difference is you won't be taking the Combination Vehicles exam. Getting a Class B is a cake walk.

Posted:  4 years, 2 months ago

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Old timer thinking about coming back to OTR trucking.

2007 full time. I did a little part time for about 60 days 2 years ago.

I need a little more info.

Exactly how many years has it been since you were a driver?

Posted:  4 years, 2 months ago

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Old timer thinking about coming back to OTR trucking.

I have been retired for a number of years, and still have my CDL class A. I have 2 years OTR and 2 years driving a transport tanker. I am bored and have been thinking about driving again for 2-3 years until my girlfriend retires. I am 69 and in pretty good physical shape. I liked the dedicated over the road driving I did, but hated the hauling gasoline in the Washington DC area. The companies were great, hated the traffic. I am fishing for comments, Two years ago, I was hired as a part time short haul driver, but I had some issues with the system and never went to work. I know there is a lot of advice in this forum, thanks ahead of time.

Posted:  4 years, 2 months ago

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Told to drive when it's obvious you're too tired.

I just want to say AMEN to this and a few other comments. I am an Baby Boomer and can see the US vs Them attitude that exists so much in today's population of younger people, the entitled expectations that can be so unrealistic at times. Never taking responsibility for themselves, or their actions, blaming others. Enough said, too much beating this dead horse.

OK before I start so that everyone reading this will understand what I am about to flame truck drivers over go to the original link to the video in this thread and read through the comments section. You will see me near the top having a one sided conversation with Abe,the guy that posted the video, and Trucker Josh and a few other YouTube truck drivers. It's all at the top in the top comments......

I am about done with the ignorance in the trucking industry. Spent more than a few hours dealing with YouTube comments about this video. While the company was wrong for pushing the guy into driving the extra 160 miles to a swap NO ONE and I mean NO ONE can see that Abe has a lot of responsibility to accept for this. Everyone on his channel has the "Us against the big compnies" attitude. OH MY FREAKING GOD!!!!!!

No one wanted to hear about a drivers responsibilities when it comes to dealing with your company. For one when you accept a load you are agreeing that you have the legal hours to run the load safe and legal and that includes THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF SLEEP BEFORE Accepting a load.

This guy knew he had been a wake the prior 10 hours (2nd 10 hour break) and he accepted the load therefore saying he was rested and legal to run the load. But NO! Everyone want to only talk about what the company did wrong, even though the guy forced it on the company, and totally discount what the driver did in the first place. Are most drivers out there that blinded by the "US against Them" attitude that they fail to see their own short comings even if they are hitting them in the head with a freaking sldgehammer!?

While I know it's only a few ignorant people on YouTube I am beginning to wonder if it's not more wide spread than we thought.

How can a group of grown adults that drive trucks take such a childish attitude and throw person responsibility completely out of the window. I say this without hesitation that if the "Modern American Worker" ,to barrow the phrase from Brett, syndrome continues to spread the trucking industry is in for a very bad time in the future.

While I am totally against the government stepping in and regulating us to death ,which again is our fault, then I guess I can not complain when they throw more regulations at us just to make sure we are doing a job we agreed to do but are failing at an extraordinary rate.

We have had more than 65 years of self regulation in the trucking industry and as recent as 1980 the government had to step in due to a number of reasons but to name a few.....trucks falling apart and never getting fixed and log books or 3 sets of log books being in alot of trucks. You know what the sad thing is and I don't get it. Ever year around June and July the DOT holds random inspections all over the country inspecting well over 30,000+ trucks every year and you want to know the top two violations EVERY year......faulty brakes and log book violations. We know our jobs yet we fail to or refuse to do it correctly every year even though we all know the inspections are coming around again. I say "We" meaning all drivers.

But I am getting off topic. I am dumbfounded by the level personal responsibility a lot of drivers have allowed themselves and other drivers to get to. The sad part is even when you try to do the right thing you get told to mind your business or to stay out of it even if you are non confrontational and suggest that there might be a better way. I know what I would like to do to some of these drivers when they act stupid but carrying a black jack is illegal in most states.

OK so I feel a bit better. Since I doubt a few people can change the entire industry we can only do our part here at Trucking Truth and help guide a new generation into trucking and teach them the right way to do stuff.

Just for the record what Abe did in the video is not the right thing to do. He should never have accepted the load in the first place therefore putting his company in a position to have to threaten him into do his job.

Let me be very clear about this. When you accept a load from dispatch you are agreeing that you can do the trip in a safe and legal manner and that you are well rested. If your are not for whatever the reason it is your job and responsibility to tell your company right then that you are not and then figure out something that will be better. If you don't then things in the video are bound to happen.

And yes I did type this out completely on my phone with just two thumbs as backup. Even my thumbs are angry. smile.gif

Posted:  4 years, 2 months ago

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Starting school next week, better not be smokers.

I had a similar aversion to smoking as well to cursing, I can tell you it's not as bad as it used to be regarding smoking, however the language is another matter. I had to turn my CB off unless I needed directions or a question answered. You will get through it ok, buck up.

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Unless you plan to spend your entire career wearing a respirator, you're either going to have to rethink your plans or adapt.

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rofl-3.gif That's funny!

Unfortunately I have to agree with everyone above. You're going to be around it quite a bit I'm afraid. I mean, I guess as long as you don't have allergies to it where you get a serious reaction then you're probably are in the same boat as most people. It isn't pleasant to be around, but it isn't that big of a deal in short doses.

Posted:  4 years, 2 months ago

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I'm Heartily Ashamed of Myself

I have found that the best persons to take care of paperwork are those that have some degree of obsessive compulsive disorder, they are so organized that they know where, when and how much was done while they were working. AND if something is out of kilter the least little bit they have a fit. Couple that with a little authority and you may find trouble. Not a sermon, just a heads up. Know your audience!!!

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The things with these big box stores is that can receive it early but can not enter it into the computer until the day it's supposed to arrive and the lady did not want to kept up with everything till the next day.

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Wow, I mean is this a "modern American worker" problem or what? What a bunch of soft, lazy crybabies people are anymore. Oh, you mean she has to set a piece of paper on the "to be entered" pile instead of the "entered" pile? OMG someone call the paramedics. Nobody could ever survive such a traumatic ordeal.

Lazy, Selfish American crybabies. That's all we produce anymore.

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Let's look at it from her view. It's like you going down the road and have a flat tire but instead of sending someone to change the tire they send someone with the tools to do it and give them to you and say Now you have an extra duty to. Change your own tire or wait till tomorrow.

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No it isn't. Not at all. Setting a piece of paper on one pile instead of another is not at all like getting out the tools to change your own tire. It's 10,000 times easier and takes no thought or effort whatsoever.

Lazy, Selfish American crybabies. Drives me insane. I came from a long line of steel workers, auto workers, farmers, mechanics, and brick layers and I've had a long list of hard labor jobs myself. The idea of telling someone to go away for a full 24 hours and give up a full day's pay so that you don't have to set a piece of paper on one pile instead of another is the saddest thing imaginable. I guess we've finally reached the point that setting a piece of paper on a pile requires more fortitude than the American Worker can muster.

China, take the wheel. We quit. We don't even have the drive and character to be pencil pushers anymore. We'll just collect unemployment and live in our parent's basement.

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Posted:  4 years, 3 months ago

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Crete / Shaffer or Schneider - Southeastern PA

I might suggest looking closely at the Trucking Truth's company's that offer training and look for a couple that offer mostly dedicated routes These will allow you to get closer to home and do it sooner than OTR companies that lack a lot of dedicated routes. TT has most of the research for you. Those companies don't need to be near your home, just have freight lanes near your home.

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Steer clear of NYC? Pittsburg is way worse. But anyway why focus on just companies with terminals near you? You are eliminating about 98% of the companies out there. I drive for Werner and they have no terminals any where near my house Where you live only plays a 1% into your ability to work for a company. The rest is up to you. If your concerned about home time then don't be. It does not matter if you live 10 feet from the terminal or 500 miles. You home time will be the same. Every 3 to 6 weeks on average.

Either company will be a great company to start with and even stay with. Though SNI has more divisions you can get good miles with either company. The main deciding factor that makes and breaks a driver at a company is attitude.

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Thanks for your response. I have my reasons for looking for companies that are close by w/ terminals. One of which is because for the long term, I am not interested in OTR but more regional or local - preferably a dedicated account if available. SNI requires that you live within a certain distance of those terminals / cities where dedicated or regional jobs are offered.

Posted:  4 years, 3 months ago

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Crete / Shaffer or Schneider - Southeastern PA

I started with Schneider in 2000 began with a dedicated account PPG that was over the road included Canada, I liked it well enough, however I had the opportunity to switch to a Wal Mart account in Bedford Pa, that was the best driving job ever. You delivered to Super Centers and Sams Clubs (new buildings with lots of room to back into docks). I know they have built new distribution centers so I can't tell where the delivery lanes are now, (from Bedford) but there is plenty of miles and the people then working for SNI were great, it was like family. That was when Schneider was doing in house training.

Hello everyone! After 3 years of research and just plain old timing, my family and I are about to start our life in trucking. I start evening classes (8 weeks long) in May. I've done plenty of research into trucking companies with orientation and terminals near our home. Needless to say there are LOTS of trucking opportunities around Carlisle, York, Harrisburg and Lancaster PA.

At this point we've narrowed it down to Crete/Shaffer or Schneider. Both have orientation and terminals within a 1/2 hour drive of our home. Both seem like great companies. Still not sure about whether I'd be interested in dry van, reefer, or tanker. SNI seems to offer more opportunity, Crete/Shaffer have their positives. Anybody out there familiar with these outfits, especially where we live? It seems that opinions fluctuate due to whether or not drivers get their miles, and it seems that we live where a lot of freight is available. Just trying to steer clear of NYC ;) Both Crete/Shaffer and SNI have dedicated and regional accounts in our area. Thanks for any input! Bill

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