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Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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My student driver landed himself in hot water. Almost fired!

I'm not arguing that you are responsible for certain things that are job related, that is what your being paid for and what a trainer both does and is. I Thought only lease drivers paid out their own pockets? Either way, Based on your he's just another student and your not buddys or friends comment, your obviously doing this soley for the money and it must pay decently. Your obviously not doing it because you enjoy the comraderie and enjoy teaching.

I've never once looked at or addressed my fleet manager as my boss. I'm working with him not necessarily for him. Last I checked, he wouldn't have a job at Prime if us just another students didn't go through the 3 month ordeal of getting our cdl and own truck.

You come across very arrogant and entitled. You seem to like saying that you will throw these 'just another students' off your truck because you've stated that in your other posts. Sounds like someone is on a power trip.

I most definitely stand by what I posted earlier in regard to you telling him I'm your boss comment. I would have laughed right in your face if you came at me like that.

Respect begets respect. It's a two way street

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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My student driver landed himself in hot water. Almost fired!

Did good, don't agree with the "Im your boss" stuff, your not really his boss, your his trainer, and the "Boss" stuff doesn't really apply. You can't fire him or suspend him, you might be able to recommend it. He has to live by your truck rules and do as you ask, but your job isn't to be his boss, that's the companies job, your job is to train him to be a professional driver and prepare him for the road. He's just an employee like yourself. But I would have handled everything else the same way.

Definitely disrespectful especially if he had plenty of time. I agree with Jared up here about the boss part though. Some people become tyrannical and aren't mature enough to be put in a position of power/authority.

That being said, it's a very tricky balance establishing boundaries and yet trying to be somewhat friendly to one another when your living together on that small truck for 2-3 months. It's inevitable that friction will develop somedays with one another. Sounds like you have been a trainer for awhile but maybe have a no going home clause during tnt. Let the person know beforehand.

There definitely are people that will see how far they can push you. Respect is everything in a dynamic like that and he crossed lines by being late and making you wait.

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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Tentative 9/7/15 Prime start date

Well, I reapplied with Prime and was offered September 7th or 14th. No point in waiting so I chose the 7th. They need to run all my background stuff still but, besides bad credit my records are as clean as can be. My employment history does worry me a bit though and I'll have to remember to ask. I have been working the same job since 2012 and they only asked for 3 years of verifiable history but told me I'll need to show 5 years when I go to the school. Well, before this job I went to cosmetology school without graduation, before that I was fired from Wal-Mart after 89 days, before Wal-Mart I was on unemployment. Does anyone know how important those two years are going to be? My recruiter is supposed to call on Monday so I'll make sure to ask but, it's worrisome. I'm close to 3.5 years on this job, I'd hate for Wal-Mart to be the reason I don't get in.

3 years is all they care about. I know that for sure. Your as good as gold

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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Headed to PRIME!

Hey guys headed to PRIME to begin orientation and training on 8/25!! Will be driving in the flatbed division out the the texas regional area. Bus ticket already purchased and confirmation number in hand! PHEW there are alot of hoops to jump thru and paperwork to gather to get hired in this business. Im ready to go!

Good luck Man

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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Prime Inc - The Journey Begins

Finally official. Just finished the week long orientation at Prime Inc in Pittston. Excited/Hype does not begin to describe me. I am currently just loafing around the terminal washing clothes. My trainer arrives tomorrow morning so I can start my 40,000 miles. I am a bit nervous as I haven't been behind the wheel since I passed my test in mid June

I owe a lot of thanks to the guys on TT. From the CDL material to all the company reviews and comments. I appreciate all you guys do for us new guys just getting into the industry. In fact I think Brett should start his on school. Odd as it sounds I have learned more from this site then I did in school and I gave those guys $4,295

Good luck Carl. Enjoy the ride.

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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Job offer

I worked for a small outfit with 11 trucks one time. One thing you want to find out about is how he's going to handle repairs and towing when it comes up, because it will. He doesn't have any national accounts or anything so it all has to be paid up front before anyone will provide any services. So if you break down and have to be towed he'll have to send a tow truck, pay for the services, and of course pay the shop before they'll release the truck after repairs. Then you've gotta get to a hotel or get home in the meantime.

And I hate percentage deals. You basically have to trust the business owner to pay you the right percentage without skimming off your earnings. I've seen a lot of business owners start out with good intentions but it all goes down the drain when times get tough and profits get slim. And if things start going negative they'll steal from their own mothers to keep things afloat.

What about health insurance, worker's comp, and disability? Sounds like you're going to be an independent contractor for him if you're paying your own taxes which means you're responsible for all of that also.

And since you're not sleeping away from home you don't get the tax write-off for being away from home. That's like $50/day or so you can't write off with local work.

And the law will soon change where he'll have to have electronic logbooks installed if he doesn't already.

Hopefully it will all work out. Did you try shooting for any LTL jobs? '6 String Rhythm' works for Old Dominion and makes a killing. Gets home every night, awesome benefits, awesome pay, and large company finances backing it all up.

I never knew how nice it was working for the major companies until I worked for a small one. When you take away all those major company perks the job can be a lot tougher. Every little thing that needs to get done is a big hassle and every dollar that has to be spent is like pulling teeth. And of course the great equipment and all those little perks don't exist.

And don't forget, the smaller the company is the more important every driver is. Wait til you want to take a week off and he not only has to eat all that lost revenue but take a loss on top of it to cover fixed costs. When you work for a company with 5,000 trucks they don't miss you when you sit. But you're going to be 50% of his entire company. If you take time off he goes into the red no matter how hard he decides to run to try to make up for it.

I mean, there's really not much risk in it for you. It's worth a shot. But I've seen this kind of setup many times. When money gets tight, and it will, the friendships go down the drain and the owner cranks up the pressure to run, run, run as he's hanging on by a thread. The heck with the logbook, the heck with repairs, "I don't have your check this week but I will next week", "I need you to take an extra run or two this week"....that kinda thing.

Time will tell. Hopefully it will all work out.

Very interesting. All your points make complete sense.

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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Experience question

At Swift, they count "experience" from the day you are upgraded to A seat - full solo type driver. If you contact personnel, they will give you your date. No training/mentor road driving is included.

Yeah Prime is the same way. It's when you become an A Seat

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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Job offer

For all you folks that have been wondering about what I am up to it is time to update how things are going.

Some of you might remember Steve Marshall, he is a retire LEO from Va Beach VA that was my first student trainee when I was driving for Prime.

He left Prime back in I believe March of 2014 to pursue another job locally here in the Norfolk Va area (that is where we both live, referred to as the Hampton Roads area). He started pulling containers out of the port of Norfolk driving for an O/O then decided to buy his own truck. He has since been doing so well that he wants to buy a second truck and have me drive it for him.

So after careful consideration, I will take him up on his offer once I get the go ahead from the Dr's to go back to work.

Ernie

That's awesome Ernie. Good luck to you

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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Question about training, dispatcher, home time, and pay

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Joshua, many people get into Trucking school, or on the road and it's close to the first time in their life that so much had been demanded of them. The whole process from CDL permit to solo driver is full of hurdles they can barely get over. Also, so many expect nice hotels, decent food provided, and, as Sam is finding out, promises & dates he thought were "set" aren't necessarily so. Several people in this thread have pointed out that new guys aren't always going to get what they want.

People who have been in the military know you have to work hard for some things they took for granted as civilians. It's not a case of rookies are people, too. It's the rude awakening of life in a rough business.

FYI, early on I had a home time set, for a weekend. Because of dispatches sent to me, I didn't get home till Tuesday, four days late. Been there, done that.

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I think the problem starts at the beginning, the recruiters lie off the rip. If I was going by what I was told from them then I would have started psd by day 5, which I did but only because I found a trainer not because they had a trainer for me. There were plenty of others waiting over a week. Also was told by the recruiter that I would get home the first time following psd, which everyone now knows was a lie, and would be home every 3 to 4 weeks after. The first thing we were told in orientation was that we would be there 6 to 12 weeks before we would get home. There were plenty of people who were told by the recruiters they were good to go only to get sent home when they got there, and of course after they quit there last job, for past work history. Hell one guy I knew got sent home because of the adhd medicine he was taking, even know he told the recruiter before hand he was on it. It seems like the recruiters goal is to just get as many people there as possible which is completely wrong because people quit there jobs thinking they are coming to start a new career. I was one of those people, I disclosed my past work history which was great up until a few years ago I worked for the same company for 10 years that later went under. Since then Ive had 4 jobs in 5 years as I try to find a fit. The last job I had up until the day before I got on the bus. I went into training thinking I was making a career change to something I could enjoy, a career where I decide how much Im worth instead of a "boss". The company I worked for for 10 years was an incentive job and I loved it. It was up to me on how much I could make so it made me want to work harder, unlike the jobs I had after. I didnt enjoy working for companies where I got paid as much as everyone else when I was the hardest working person there. Over time it turns into resent. Any way, my 3rd day there I got called into the office because of the fact that I had quit my last 3 jobs and that they couldnt contact the company that went under. REALLY? How am I supposed toverify a company that is no longer around? The only thing I could offer as contact for that company was the former owners phone number because we are still friends. The office guy flat out said that they could not accept a personal phone number as a contact for a company because it could just be a friend of mine. I was worried about being sent home. All of this should have been checked before I even got a bus pass. Thank goodness the companies I quit all described me a stellar employee or else I would have been screwed.

Your doing awesome Sam. Your showing guts and determination sticking this out and that is what prime wants to see. Each step gets easier, not easy, but without a doubt easier. And man, some days sure are fun. I always bring my bike with me and got to ride it in the woods in both Massachusetts and Connecticut. First time this far east in my life and had an absolute blast. And oh yeah, I got paid good for it too.

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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Question about training, dispatcher, home time, and pay

Joshua, many people get into Trucking school, or on the road and it's close to the first time in their life that so much had been demanded of them. The whole process from CDL permit to solo driver is full of hurdles they can barely get over. Also, so many expect nice hotels, decent food provided, and, as Sam is finding out, promises & dates he thought were "set" aren't necessarily so. Several people in this thread have pointed out that new guys aren't always going to get what they want.

People who have been in the military know you have to work hard for some things they took for granted as civilians. It's not a case of rookies are people, too. It's the rude awakening of life in a rough business.

FYI, early on I had a home time set, for a weekend. Because of dispatches sent to me, I didn't get home till Tuesday, four days late. Been there, done that.

I understand this errol but his rudeness and disrespect was uncalled for. No one in this businees should ever forget that we drivers put our lives and safety on the line almost every day we go out there. I just drive through new york city and all over the northeast and west Virginia. This job can be very dangerous, just ask Persian conversion. Appreciation and respect is an absolute must for whomever I work for when I'm out on the road 6 weeks at a time 7 days a week. I don't have to do this because I'm destitute. I choose and want to do this. And enjoy doing this. Daniels comments to sam is how some dispatchers truly think about us truck drivers. I have great pride in whatever I choose to do. To have someone say they would drop you off in the middle of nowhere and calling it the dumbest thing he's heard in awhile for sure wouldn't fly with me. He's obviously upset about the situation and came to us to voice that. Psd and tnt is very hard at times. 3 months brand new on a truck 7 days a week all day everyday with another full grown male can test the best of us

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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Question about training, dispatcher, home time, and pay

Your not seeing the big picture here... just cuz you can get a new dispatcher doesn't mean they don't talk... if you **** one off to the point where he/she gets really mad and the type to hold grudges then you just committed career suicide Cuz that dispatch will let your dispatcher know what type of driver you are.. kind of like one cop helping another cop... your best bet is to apologize and move on..

I actually don't agree with this. I switched boards after one month and it was the absolute right thing to do. Have had literally zero issues/flare ups going on 7 months now. Making way more money and being both appreciated and treated with respect. I've never looked as myself as the lowest on the totem pole or just another drive. From what I was told by the in charge of claims, he gets hundreds of them all time. I've had zero accidents and zero citations. I understand my position in the company but by no means do I think or look at myself as some peon peasant. Not even close. A good strong reliable safe driver is a huge asset to any trucking company. That's how I look at myself in this businees.

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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Question about training, dispatcher, home time, and pay

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Ya know, I'm not a jerk but Im going to be real with you. Don't you ever disrespect your supervisor again for any reason. You're a grown man, act like it and stop acting out of emotion.

Ill tell you this, I like my dispatcher a lot, but at the same time I hate snotty, rude students who are disrespectful. I would choose my dispatcher over any student. If you were on my truck and I found out that you talked to my dispatcher in that fashion your ass would be hitchhiking home from Mile Marker 65 on I40 in New Mexico.

This is coming from a Prime Instructor/Trainer -- learn your place on the totem pole.

Now that we addressed your embarrassing, childish ways I can answer your question.

You don't get paid at home or to drive home under a load. He actually did you a favor but you're too new to realize it. You also had taxes kill the paycheck and weekly payments that you owe Prime. It's very easy to see you going negative.

Seriously though I've been a part of TT for a long time. What you did was the absolutely the dumbest thing I've read in a very long time. Learn your lesson from it and apologize to your dispatcher for your behavior. You're lucky you haven't gotten fired yet, though I wouldn't be surprised if that's pending.

I think this was rather abrasive and uncalled for. He's here venting and you saying is the dumbest thing you heard in awhile is very disrespectful. Just because he's the lowest on the totem pole as you say doesn't mean he's not a person, and that how he feels is irrelevant. I guarantee you wouldn't have dropped me off in the middle of nowhere if I had words with my dispatcher. Good luck trying

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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Question about training, dispatcher, home time, and pay

I am still in tnt training and my trainer and I took our home time this past week, last Tuesday to this Tuesday. Let me rephrase, I was supposed to start my home time last Tuesday, what actually happened is I dropped a load tues morning at 10 am and sat waiting at the receiver til 4pm for my next load to get me home seeing as I was still over 600 miles away. At 4pm I messaged my dispatcher to find out wth was going on. He then sent up a load going further east that didnt even pick up til the next morning and didnt drop off til friday. Once again I messaged him stating that both my trainer and I were supposed to be starting our home time, tues for me and wed for my trainer. He replied that it was the best he could do. I sent another message stating that I had already made plans with my family to go to an amusement park wed and that I had already payed for a hotel because my hometime was set a month ahead of time and that I hadnt been home since starting my training with prime 6 weeks prior. Once again he sent a reply stating this was the best they could do. At this point I was pretty heated so I sent a reply stating that I would expect him to reimburse me for the money I had spent on the hotel and that this instance was probably one of the top reasons they have such a high turn around of students quitting while in training. At this point I figured he was getting peaved because he then sent a reply telling me to deadhead home and for my trainer to drop the trailer in Springfield and bobtail to his home. At this point it was already after 6pm, needless to say I had to drive over my 14hour clock in order to get home and I didnt get home until 2am wed morning. I received my pay stub last night knowing that I wouldnt make much because the only miles I drove last week were the miles I drove home but I thought I would at least be paid for those miles. Instead I got a 0 mile pay and was charged for my training which equaled a negative pay. WTF? Is this right? Now I was supposed to be back out tuesday and instead I have been sitting at home waiting. They sent my trainer out tues but no where near me. Supposedly, after he drops off this load he will be dispatched by me so I can get back on the truck but at this point it already screws me on my pay. I talked to another dispatcher and he said I should still get paid my guaranteed min pay of 700 since I was supposed to be on a truck at the beginning of the pay period and that if Im not I need to bring it up to human resources. WTF? Is this usually this much of a pain in the ass? How did I get stuck with a crappy dispatcher?

Honestly I went into psd and tnt not expecting any home time till it was over with. I ended up getting about 4 days after I got my cdl and ran team for about a week. After that, I didn't see home till about 2 and a half more months.

After you get your own truck, always on time with your loads and don't hit anything, I've had absolutely zero issues requesting home time then it being granted to me. First day during orientation they basically said you wouldn't be going home for a couple months. I think they know from experience that it is critical for a student driver to be learning and getting better everyday before they assign you that shiny new truck.

I'm sure you won't do it again, but I wouldn't have already paid for a hotel and had the date set in stone with this job/dynamic. So many things could keep that from being a possibility.

Prime is a awesome company and I have nothing but great things to say about them, but anyone that has a family and life outside of the trucking lifestyle really has to know that this first year is about sacrifice. Lots of home everyday/weekend jobs after that first year. Your going to work off that cdl cost trust me on that. I had to switch dispatchers early on and it was the smartest move I made. Been with the same one now with zero issues almost literally. First one I didnt click with at all and I asked to move boards and it was granted.

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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A HUGE thank you!

Well, I'm a guy first of all lol! I get that a lot though with my name. I wanted to teifecta, but for in my head to much the first time in the blindside parallel.

Today i got the drivers side parallel, hit it first shot.

Sorry man. Yeah the name threw me off. Great job none the less.

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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Is it better to get a CDL through company sponsor or 3rd party?

Yo so I have another question for all you "experts"

I really want to start this trucking thing ASAP. My local community college has a CDL program with classes year round every 2 weeks that are 5 weeks long Mon - Fri 8-5. I figured I could do that in between the fall and spring semester and then use the flex 1 (first half only classes) to save up some fin aid money to have a little nest egg of savings. Once that's done I can start a career in trucking without having to do THEIR cdl training and be contracted in (although I'll prob stay for at least a year it opens up the window to MORE companies I can start with)

That's 1 option, option 2 is to go through company sponsored training, be limited to those companies and also be stuck weather I like it or not for a year, I don't foresee that being an issue but it's the principle of the matter.

My question to you guys is, is either option better for me to get a job. Is it just as easy to get hired with having obtained my cdl through a 3rd party such as my community college as it is to go through a companies sponsored training. say I still wanted to go with prime, would my chances of being hired with them be equally as good if I had my cdl already vs going through their schooling?

I'm afraid to spend that money only to find it be harder to get a job. The lady at my college says they have companies all the time asking for new cdl grads and they haven't had any students complain about trouble finding a job yet. To me that's standard recruiter talk because if she said "no you'd do better at a company sponsored course" the college wouldn't get any students.

So I want to know what you guys think, should I get my CDL through my college in their 5 week, 5 days a week 8-5 class or should I go with company sponsored school options.

Also please tell me why you pick that choice.

The cost of my local college is not an issue because I have a trust fund that pays my tuition so no need to factor that in for my situation.

Yeah I agree with these guys. If I would have had my cdl paid locally i for sure would have done it. You could go straight to tnt with prime making 700 a week and possibly more depending on how hard you run. I was done with psd in about 3 weeks but it was 7 days a week, sharing that truck with someone during both psd and tnt. About 3 months total. I talked to a trans am driver the other day. He went to a school then went to trans am. He had his own truck in less then 2 weeks. Prime you'd have to drive with someone for about 2 months or so.

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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A HUGE thank you!

Did you trifecta? On your backing test did you have the alley dock or the parallel?

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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A HUGE thank you!

Short of heading to the DMV in the morning and making it officially official, today I became the very proud owner of a class A cdl!

Thank you to everyone for the kind words, encouragement, and motivation! Thank you Brett and crew for the high road training program!

Awesome. Very well done. Primes psd program is no joke. You set a good example for the other females.

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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DON'T WORK FOR SWIFT? ... NOT!

The first part is a common posting here and on many other boards. After that is the explanation from a Fleet Manager

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I am tired of getting skee-rooed by this company! I drive a scheduled shuttle run that gets me 512 miles daily, four days on, two off. Plus being home every day. But they don't tell you when you get cancelled! I went to the T-call window, ready for my run. The clerk said "Sorry, you got cancelled!" Well, can't they tell me this before I get dressed, pack a lunch and drive 30 miles to the terminal! Nooo - they don't have time. The the clerk looks at the actual schedule - ANOTHER DRIVER'S LOAD WAS CANCELLED, AND HE GOT MINE - and I have the honor of staying hoe and not get paid. How can I make a living this way? I'm not sure if going back to OTR or looking for another company who better takes care of the drivers is the way out of this junk!, I'm going to post what happened to me on Trucking Truth, Trucker Report, CDLLife and LifeAsATrucker to warn people away from Swift! wtf.gif

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(The previous paragraph is a common reaction by people. I called the office and (not my intention) ended up talking to the fleet manager)

Turns out I have not been set up in the phone-mail system where I could call in to see if I'm scheduled or cancelled - the phone call that saves lots of time and aggravation. The FM apologized and would get me set up. checkmark.png

The load swap, where "my" load was given to another driver is actually a rotation thing. On any given load that is cancelled, there is a rotation so that we all get cancelled in turn. That's a great advantage if one lane gets lots of cancellations, hurting that one driver, the "joy" is spread around instead. checkmark.png

If a load is cancelled, and the driver ends up not driving, they get a cancellation pay of $100. The round trip is worth $184 to me if I drive, so for 80 bucks I get to stay home. Better than a poke in the eye, at least! checkmark.png

So before you go ballistic, try talking with someone, or making a phone call. You might get an explanation that makes sense! smile.gif

4 days on 2 days off and also home everyday? That's a very nice gig. I was told that Swifts walmart dedicated routes in the Florida area want one year experience. I'll have several options for a home almost every night by then though.

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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4473 mile week solo..

...in a Prime LW governed at 62 mph. A perfect storm of dispatches and deliveries. Technically the 4473 is over eight and a half days, but I doubt I top this (in a Prime company truck anyway).

Last week was only 2300 but the week before was 3400. Loving these miles! I'm definitely looking forward to home time though, getting run a little ragged.

Man. That's a busy week

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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Does it ever end?

I'll say one more thing to. All The Talking to other people, reading these forums, and speculating kind of helps in a way I guess. But when I commented on your other post and said trucking is a hands on sport, it's because it is. There isn't any getting around not knowing or being able to do much in the beginning. It's all repitition. Just like learning a instrument or becoming proficient at anything really, it's practice practice practice and trucking isnt any different. If you can swallow your pride for a couple months and be a willing student, before you know it you'll be driving a big semi down the interstate and backing at a truck stop. Fear and anxiety lessens as you become more proficient. It just takes time

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