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Posted:  3 years, 5 months ago

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Trucking background check

My father is a retired Philadelphia cop so I always made a point of keeping my nose clean. I've never been in cuffs, never been arrested, never been charged with anything. I've had maybe three or four moving violations. Nothing major. Last one was about five years ago for a light being out. I gave an honest list of employment. My credit is bad but that's about it. And I had to pass a background check for them to hire me in the first place. A friend of mine said stuff can be planted on your background but I'm not even going to get into that until I hear back from them.

Really no way of knowing what they found. Background checks are multi/faceted and depending on court records (because there are many different repositories) can take several weeks for all of the results to be returned.

Keep in mind not only are these checks for evaluating the past but also a check of honesty. Hopefully this is a false positive on something they can accept.

Good luck!

Posted:  3 years, 5 months ago

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Trucking background check

Very strange. I passed a background check done by Roehl over the summer and was given a pre hire. I contacted them again about three weeks ago and they said that I passes again. Today a recruiter called and said they found something in my background. I said I have no criminal record and haven't gotten a moving violation in years. I asked her what was found and she said they are going to double check it to make sure it's legitimate and if it is they will send me a report explaining what they found. This is really weird. My dad is a retired Philadelphia cop so I made a point to of never committing crimes. So I have no idea what's going on. What could they have found?

Posted:  3 years, 6 months ago

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Think I need more training

If I sign up with a company for cdl training should I even mentioned I've gone through training at my school? I talked to one company and they said they didn't want to invest in someone who already had training.

Keep in mind - and we HAVE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE Kevin. The "private schools" SOLE PURPOSE is to get you your CDL. It in no measureable way, prepares you for the REAL LIFE CAREER of trucking.

So you will STILL GO ONTO A COMPANY, as a trainee - you will just be able to "skip" the part of their training, that gets new recruits their CDL's (assuming you are fresh out of a private school).

Some companies (Swift/Prime/etc.) do their "CDL acquisition training" in-house - where you get your permit go out with a trainer hauling REAL LIFE LOADS, and then come back into the terminal to do the CDL Skills Tests and get your Full CDL-A. At that point you go out for ANOTHER 30K miles (+/-) running as a team with a trainer for "finishing training" (learning how to run that companies loads, with their policies and equipment, while still having a veteran onboard to help when required).

Other companies only take "recent grads" from other "qualified schools" - and, after giving them a "road test" at orientation to make sure their skills are such that they CAN send them on the road - put with with a trainer to run as teams, similar to the companies that do in-house training. Many trainers will not run as a team (in this instance) until they observe the new driver for a period of time (most likely, to make sure they aren't going to get killed while they sleep).

We've heard about your "issues" with your school - and not getting enough actual "wheel time" to get proficient/confident with your skills. 9 months is a LONG TIME - how long was the ACTUAL SCHOOL TIME?

I did a 9 week course at a local County Vo-Tech, but that was 7AM-3PM (full time) 5 days a week, for 9 full weeks, 320 hours. And I logged over 1,000 miles of wheel time on the road outside of the school grounds during that time.

As others have said - KEEP TRYING TO GET YOUR CDL AT SCHOOL. If it just becomes IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SO - consider signing on with a company as a new student and get trained IN REAL LIFE SITUATIONS, by DOING THE JOB.

On-The-Job-Training is almost ALWAYS BETTER THAN A SCHOOL.

Rick

Posted:  3 years, 6 months ago

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Think I need more training

There were five people who completed training with me on October 27th. None of us have passed the test

Kevin's worried:

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So I'm preparing for the possibility that I won't be able to pass the road final.

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Patrick C. agrees:

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We all feel that we didn't get enough training.

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Gladhand speaks truth:

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Don't you worry a bit. They don't expect you to be perfect. You just have to show the necessary basic skills to pass.

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Kevin, on finishing each stage of your training, you'll feel barely ready for the next step. That's the plan! You (and many others) look backward, and realize they barely know anything. It's simply a matter of perspective: look forward, and be thankful that you are now prepared for that next step.

I even complained to my school road instructor (the pre-CDL skills test one) that we didn't get enough training. But the three in my group did the important thing: we all passed out CDL test!

Even when I got my first solo/OTR dispatch I was a bit nervous. You'll get there! You'll get past that hurdle, too!

Posted:  3 years, 6 months ago

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Think I need more training

Understood

I wish I had a school as long as that. My school was 12 days long. 3, 4 day, weeks. I actually tested for my CDL on day 11. The first 4 1/2 days are classroom work. I had 7 1/2 in a big rig. 6 1/2 before I tested. It is 4 students per truck. So probably a couple hours per day behind the wheel. We all feel that we didn't get enough training.

Posted:  3 years, 6 months ago

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Think I need more training

Got it.

Don't give up, get your CDL there even if it takes a few tries. Any company you start with will give you more training don't worry about that. But you paid for your CDL school, might as well get it there. Your just nervous is all, you'll be alright.

I went to a private school that was ten weekends long. Everyone is worried about passing the test. You can do it.

Posted:  3 years, 6 months ago

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Think I need more training

I just completed a six month course at a trade school. There was only 13 hours of on the road training. I feel kind of foolish now for signing up for six months. 32 hours of straightline and only 13 hours to actually learn how to drive the truck. So I'm preparing for the possibility that I won't be able to pass the road final. Will a company hire me without a cdl and train me even if I have had training? Roehl prehired me and are second on my list. I told the recruiter that I'd like to sign up for their cdl training and I haven't heard back from her. She signed me up to work for Roehl but didn't call back when I asked on her voice mail if I could do the cdl training. Are there any companies that would invest in training someone without asked cdl who already has training?

Posted:  3 years, 6 months ago

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Took tests on invalid permit

lolololol Well my mom has always said I'm a hard headed Irishman and in this case it seems as though my hard headedness is my friend! I'm to hard headed to quit ANYTHING!!!

Your story has been a GREEK TRAGEDY FROM START TO FINISH.

Some of it your fault - and some of it not.

If you actually EVER GET YOUR CDL and get employed - you will be a TESTAMENT to sticking through the BS, to accomplish your goal.

Rick

Posted:  3 years, 6 months ago

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Took tests on invalid permit

The permit has an n under endorsements with an x off to the right so I don't even know if my endorsements are properly listed. What a pain in the ass. I will sit around now until early December. I believe everything happens for a reason so we will see what thus leads to.

Posted:  3 years, 6 months ago

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Took tests on invalid permit

The tests I have to retake are the state exam for my cdl. I took the test on an invalid permit so I have to take the whole test over again. I was issued a new cdl last week when I found out about the problem.

You and your fellow student wouldn't be alone in something like this happening (screw up by dmv on cdl permits). IMO your DMV should fix the issue and you should get your updated permit. I don't think the school would know if there was a problem with your permit. I still wonder to myself on my almost dmv permit mix up story:

Got my CDL A Permit from DMV Ended up taking a Class B road test instead - passed. Went to the DMV to get my Class B CDL. They revoked and confiscated my Class A Permit although not expired - computer said I never passed the Combination Written Exam. They removed me ever having a Class A permit from my records. I passed the combination written exam same day to get a new Class A permit.

So what would have happened if I had passed the Class A road test at the time? I'm not even sure I want to know but I often wonder. Either way if the written test "examiner" did not enter in the exam results and/or the dmv "teller" wrongfully issued a Class A instead of B it was a dmv mistake but either way dmv personnel didn't seem to care.

I wish you luck on getting your permit straightened out. I kind of don't see why they couldn't of resolved your issue the same day or why they say that you need to retake the written exams. Maybe this differs per state but as far as I know of the written exams are valid for 1 year. If possible I would recommend contacting CDL Driver's services (if any of your nearby dmvs has one) or maybe a different manager. When you add endorsements an updated permit should be issued to show the added endorsements and your old one confiscated. Unless your current (or old permit now) reached its' expiration date then you would need to file paperwork for the renewal.

Posted:  3 years, 6 months ago

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Took tests on invalid permit

This is a strange story and am not quite sure is going on here. I took my state exam last week. I passes pretrip and all skills but autofailed on the road final. After the test one of my classmates mentioned he had a problem with his permit so I thought it'd go over to the dmv to check mine. At the dmv I was informed that my permit was not in the system. I spoke to a supervisor who said that when I added a hazmat and tanker endorsement on 9/30 that instead of the endorsement being added to my original permit a new permit was issued on 9/30 which invalidated the first permit so I have to take the test over but can't until the first week of December. Should my school have known the original permit was invalid when I tested? I don't want to collect dust for a month so I want to join roehls cdl program. I'd wind up taking the test two weeks later or so but get more training. Have any of you heard of anything like this?

Posted:  3 years, 6 months ago

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Wellbutrin - hair follicle test

Thanks for the advice guys. I think I'll say I tried to quit smoking and failed. I'll talk to my doctor to see if he'll write me a letter saying I took it for smoking.

Posted:  3 years, 6 months ago

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Wellbutrin - hair follicle test

Hello there. I will be getting a hair follicle test in three weeks. I stopped taking the anti-depressant Wellbutrin about three weeks ago. I've heard Wellbutrin sometimes triggers a false positive on urine tests but not on hair follicle tests but I've aflso heard the trucking companies test for other prescription drugs in hair follicle tests including Wellbutrin. I'd rather not disclose that I was taking Wellbutrin. My parents were very sick for a few years and I developed depression while caring for them. Do any of you have knowledge about this subject or is there any and vice you cam give me on this topic? Should I disclose that I used Wellbutrin? Would that disqualify me from trucking?

Posted:  3 years, 6 months ago

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Took state exam today

We were told we need to see a foot between the front of the tractor and the stop sign line. I was leaning forward a little bit and the examiner was leaning back so it appeared to him I was closer. Another student who failed that way said that's what he was told. I am being tested by examiners at my school. In Pennsylvania you have to supply your own truck so I can't use the state facility. I'd love to but I can't find a truck. So if you know anyone near Philadelphia who owns a truck I'd appreciate if you pass my name onto them. Phillyguy333@gmail.com I'll work for a company that would let me use one of their trucks to take the test. If you've seen my other posts you'll see this school is kind of strange.

Sounds like you got a picky examiner, Kevin, but what 'cha going to do?

White lane lines? Depends on where they are. But you now have that rule: "don't cross solid white lines to change lanes" for the drive test.

The white barrier line is an easy solution: when you stop, come to your complete stop with the white line just touching the hood of your truck.

(Hint: in traffic, when you pull up behind another vehicle, make sure you see a few feet of asphalt (road paving) between your hood and the back end of the car in front of you.)

In your rookie year in trucking, you will most probably have a few more crunchers. Consider them experience, not failure. Learn from your mistakes.

Posted:  3 years, 6 months ago

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Took state exam today

I've passed pretrip and road skills. I auto failed on the road final. I changed lanes and crossed a solid white line. I also was told I stopped to close tint he white line at stop signs. I was leaning forward a little bit while I was driving so it looked to me that there was space between the front of my tractor and the white line. Someone else who took the test told me that the examiner is sitting back so they have a different angle than a driver who is leaning forward a little bit. I just need a little more road awareness. I have to remember to look out for solid white lines.

Posted:  3 years, 6 months ago

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How to determine normal operating range of transmission

I'm going to be fine. If like the instructor on the range said that the normal operating range of the trucks is different on the test vehicles then that's my only problem. I'm going to ask the normal operating range of the vehicle and for five minutes to go through the gears to memorize exactly where they are at. When I had the opportunity to do that on the tractor I took out the last day of training I had no problem.

Kevin, I think I understand what you're saying. You went 10 of your 14 road trips without being told you were shifting wrong. That's bad, you should have been told on the first trip so you could work on it. And someone said that you could have studied how to double clutch, but you can read about it all you want, it's not the same as doing it. I don't know what to tell you, I just wanted to let you know that I hear you.

I think this is what Rick was saying above, but if you can shift by floating, then I think you just need to press the clutch a little when taking it out of gear, then again when going to the next gear, and you are double clutching.

Posted:  3 years, 6 months ago

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How to determine normal operating range of transmission

It's j us t a matter of wanting to be prepared. I'm not sure if I'm missing something and want to make sure there are no "unknown unknowns" eh end it comes to operating the vehicle.

I found every instructor has their own opinions and has their own versions if what's right and wrong. It seems kind of harsh that they would fail you for not having your foot on the clutch before being in gear but maybe it's just me.

Things like going up on the curb or stalling out on a hill, hitting stuff, yes.

Anyways i think you should relax you probably are doing fine.

Posted:  3 years, 6 months ago

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How to determine normal operating range of transmission

You posted a "gotch quote" that was taken completely out of the context of my post so i think that would qualify as negative. you implied that i do not have the personality to do the job which is negative and you are implying that " something is missing" so ill be very quick with this. The classroom training was excellent the range training was excellent the road training was terrible. I had to teach myself how to shift the vehicle. when it took my road final for the course i had trouble shifting and one of the instructors said that maybe it was because the normal operating range of the vehicle was different for that truck. so im going into my cdl exam on wednesday not knowing if i know how to shift so id like to find a simulator or something to get some practice to be sure i know what im doing. im a perfectionist when it comes to doing things the right way and feel powerless in that i can not practice driving for the final when i dont know if i can even shift. i didnt really shift properly until my last two training road trips and then had a terrible time shifting in the road final test. i did everything the same...rev up to 15..clutch neutral...clutch gear...rev up to fifteen..clutch neutral..clutch gear...but on the road final i got...rev up to fifteen..clutch neutral...clutch (griiiind)..ok no big deal i missed a gear...rev it back up to fifteen..clutch neutral...clutch (griiiiind)...so i have absolutely no idea why i had so much trouble in the road final and cant get an answer other then that some vehicles have a different operating range and it was my repsonsibility to ask that on the road final.

Kevin, you are greatly mistaken, I've read everything over several times. I still don't get it. After six months you can pass the test, I'm sure of that. I kind of need you to point out what I said that was so negative. I'm having trouble pin pointing what your issues are, it just seems to me that something doesn't add up here.

You make it sound one minute like you are an ace in the hole...

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After being evaluated by recruiters from companies across the country ive been offered a half dozen prehires. i am reliable and hard working have no driving or criminal record and do not do drugs and very rarely drink

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And then you make it sound like your afraid you can't pass the test. If I thought I could reach out there and give you a boost of confidence, I would. Personally I think that is all you are lacking.

Posted:  3 years, 6 months ago

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How to determine normal operating range of transmission

The road training was only fourteen hours. The trucks can shift without proper double clutching. we have to demonstrate the ability to double clutch to pass the test. so we are driving along and being told we are doing it correctly without knowing we are doing it incorrectly because the truck is shifting without double clutching correctly.

Clearly you didnt read my entire post. the instruction was excellent until the actual road training began. I make that very clear. I have several prehires and a guy who used to be a salemen for the school who then bought his own product and works nearby visited the school and got to know me and asked me to come be his partner where he works so you're opinion via the internet is what i would describe as amusing. After being evaluated by recruiters from companies across the country ive been offered a half dozen prehires. i am reliable and hard working have no driving or criminal record and do not do drugs and very rarely drink.. please bother to read an entire post before commenting on it in such a very negative and misleading way.

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Hey Kevin, I can't really tell what is going on with you, but my initial impression upon seeing your first question about the operating range was, "This guy is way over thinking this thing."

Then today you stated this...

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the instructors are top notch. Professional, patient (and trust me they need it with me because i overthink everything and ask a million questions. if i am 90% certain of something i want to be 100% so i ask a question to be sure)

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There's something really odd about all this because you make it sound like everything has just gone great all through the program up until the very end. I know if I was doing terrible while driving a big rig, and some guy kept telling me I was doing great I would already know something was wrong. Most of us learned to do this in a four week school. You say...

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I have perfect attendance. I did not miss a roll call in six months. I have a 3.5 gpa. My classmates and i busted our tails in 95-100 degree humid weather at the height of the summer heat here in the Mid-Atlantic.

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I'm sorry, but I just think there's something missing here. You have been learning for SIX MONTHS and you are still stressing about the operating range of the transmission! You guys ought to be able to pass that driving test without that kind of stress affecting you by this point in time. You should be able to hear how the engine is sounding and be able to tell if it is time to shift, or if you are lugging the engine.

There may very well be some kind of issues at the school, (although I'm not certain from what you've posted) but this whole career is going to have issues and monumental difficulties every day, and you are going to have to face problems that will drive a sane person crazy in a heart beat. This might be just the time for you to figure out how to take the bull by the horns and determine whether this kind of a career is right for your personality or not.

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Posted:  3 years, 6 months ago

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Clearly you didnt read my entire post. the instruction was excellent until the actual road training began. I make that very clear. I have several prehires and a guy who used to be a salemen for the school who then bought his own product and works nearby visited the school and got to know me and asked me to come be his partner where he works so you're opinion via the internet is what i would describe as amusing. After being evaluated by recruiters from companies across the country ive been offered a half dozen prehires. i am reliable and hard working have no driving or criminal record and do not do drugs and very rarely drink.. please bother to read an entire post before commenting on it in such a very negative and misleading way.

Hey Kevin, I can't really tell what is going on with you, but my initial impression upon seeing your first question about the operating range was, "This guy is way over thinking this thing."

Then today you stated this...

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the instructors are top notch. Professional, patient (and trust me they need it with me because i overthink everything and ask a million questions. if i am 90% certain of something i want to be 100% so i ask a question to be sure)

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There's something really odd about all this because you make it sound like everything has just gone great all through the program up until the very end. I know if I was doing terrible while driving a big rig, and some guy kept telling me I was doing great I would already know something was wrong. Most of us learned to do this in a four week school. You say...

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I have perfect attendance. I did not miss a roll call in six months. I have a 3.5 gpa. My classmates and i busted our tails in 95-100 degree humid weather at the height of the summer heat here in the Mid-Atlantic.

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I'm sorry, but I just think there's something missing here. You have been learning for SIX MONTHS and you are still stressing about the operating range of the transmission! You guys ought to be able to pass that driving test without that kind of stress affecting you by this point in time. You should be able to hear how the engine is sounding and be able to tell if it is time to shift, or if you are lugging the engine.

There may very well be some kind of issues at the school, (although I'm not certain from what you've posted) but this whole career is going to have issues and monumental difficulties every day, and you are going to have to face problems that will drive a sane person crazy in a heart beat. This might be just the time for you to figure out how to take the bull by the horns and determine whether this kind of a career is right for your personality or not.

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