Took Tests On Invalid Permit

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Kevin R.'s Comment
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This is a strange story and am not quite sure is going on here. I took my state exam last week. I passes pretrip and all skills but autofailed on the road final. After the test one of my classmates mentioned he had a problem with his permit so I thought it'd go over to the dmv to check mine. At the dmv I was informed that my permit was not in the system. I spoke to a supervisor who said that when I added a hazmat and tanker endorsement on 9/30 that instead of the endorsement being added to my original permit a new permit was issued on 9/30 which invalidated the first permit so I have to take the test over but can't until the first week of December. Should my school have known the original permit was invalid when I tested? I don't want to collect dust for a month so I want to join roehls cdl program. I'd wind up taking the test two weeks later or so but get more training. Have any of you heard of anything like this?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Susan D. 's Comment
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I honestly don't think that your school would have known about the error at the DMV. I would think that had a new permit been issued, you should have received the new permit when you took those endorsement exams.

It sounds to me like your DMV should fix their error, especially considering that they knew one was made, but what do I know.

I wish you luck in getting this straightened out.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Kemo's Comment
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You and your fellow student wouldn't be alone in something like this happening (screw up by dmv on cdl permits). IMO your DMV should fix the issue and you should get your updated permit. I don't think the school would know if there was a problem with your permit. I still wonder to myself on my almost dmv permit mix up story:

Got my CDL A Permit from DMV Ended up taking a Class B road test instead - passed. Went to the DMV to get my Class B CDL. They revoked and confiscated my Class A Permit although not expired - computer said I never passed the Combination Written Exam. They removed me ever having a Class A permit from my records. I passed the combination written exam same day to get a new Class A permit.

So what would have happened if I had passed the Class A road test at the time? I'm not even sure I want to know but I often wonder. Either way if the written test "examiner" did not enter in the exam results and/or the dmv "teller" wrongfully issued a Class A instead of B it was a dmv mistake but either way dmv personnel didn't seem to care.

I wish you luck on getting your permit straightened out. I kind of don't see why they couldn't of resolved your issue the same day or why they say that you need to retake the written exams. Maybe this differs per state but as far as I know of the written exams are valid for 1 year. If possible I would recommend contacting CDL Driver's services (if any of your nearby dmvs has one) or maybe a different manager. When you add endorsements an updated permit should be issued to show the added endorsements and your old one confiscated. Unless your current (or old permit now) reached its' expiration date then you would need to file paperwork for the renewal.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Kevin R.'s Comment
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The tests I have to retake are the state exam for my cdl. I took the test on an invalid permit so I have to take the whole test over again. I was issued a new cdl last week when I found out about the problem.

You and your fellow student wouldn't be alone in something like this happening (screw up by dmv on cdl permits). IMO your DMV should fix the issue and you should get your updated permit. I don't think the school would know if there was a problem with your permit. I still wonder to myself on my almost dmv permit mix up story:

Got my CDL A Permit from DMV Ended up taking a Class B road test instead - passed. Went to the DMV to get my Class B CDL. They revoked and confiscated my Class A Permit although not expired - computer said I never passed the Combination Written Exam. They removed me ever having a Class A permit from my records. I passed the combination written exam same day to get a new Class A permit.

So what would have happened if I had passed the Class A road test at the time? I'm not even sure I want to know but I often wonder. Either way if the written test "examiner" did not enter in the exam results and/or the dmv "teller" wrongfully issued a Class A instead of B it was a dmv mistake but either way dmv personnel didn't seem to care.

I wish you luck on getting your permit straightened out. I kind of don't see why they couldn't of resolved your issue the same day or why they say that you need to retake the written exams. Maybe this differs per state but as far as I know of the written exams are valid for 1 year. If possible I would recommend contacting CDL Driver's services (if any of your nearby dmvs has one) or maybe a different manager. When you add endorsements an updated permit should be issued to show the added endorsements and your old one confiscated. Unless your current (or old permit now) reached its' expiration date then you would need to file paperwork for the renewal.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Kevin R.'s Comment
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The permit has an n under endorsements with an x off to the right so I don't even know if my endorsements are properly listed. What a pain in the ass. I will sit around now until early December. I believe everything happens for a reason so we will see what thus leads to.

Sambo's Comment
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See, to me, this is the problem with the system. He took his tests, but because it was an invalid permit....who cares? Did he pass or not, if he did, then fix the paperwork, give him his valid permit and send him on his way. But, that's too easy, no, they have to soak more money out of people so they do things like this.

It reminds me of when I moved from arkansas to Texas. I had just renewed my hazmat two months prior, yet when I arrived in texas, I had to take it again.....why???? Hazmat is a federally regulated function, not state regulated. If you pass hazmat in one state, it should be recognized for every state. Just another way of state governments bilking people for more money....

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Rick S.'s Comment
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Your story has been a GREEK TRAGEDY FROM START TO FINISH.

Some of it your fault - and some of it not.

If you actually EVER GET YOUR CDL and get employed - you will be a TESTAMENT to sticking through the BS, to accomplish your goal.

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Kevin R.'s Comment
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lolololol Well my mom has always said I'm a hard headed Irishman and in this case it seems as though my hard headedness is my friend! I'm to hard headed to quit ANYTHING!!!

Your story has been a GREEK TRAGEDY FROM START TO FINISH.

Some of it your fault - and some of it not.

If you actually EVER GET YOUR CDL and get employed - you will be a TESTAMENT to sticking through the BS, to accomplish your goal.

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
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