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Posted:  4 years, 7 months ago

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OK so what's the deal with Prime lease?

When I say they push you into lease I mean the teacher or whatever they are. When I was in upgrading we had a few classes to take and in every class they would ask who was going company and who was leasing. The very next statement they made after we raised our hands for company was "do you realize how much money you guys are leaving on the table?" then they would go on about how much more money we could make as lease. This seems like pushing to me, along with my own fm bringing lease up.

Posted:  4 years, 7 months ago

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OK so what's the deal with Prime lease?

Well the difference between me and every other driver I've spoke to is how much money is enough money. Every other driver I I've talked to at prime wants to make 100,000 a year and they are willing to never be home to do it. My situation is different, I used to make 60k a year with a company that went out of business. So the 10 years I spent there bought me a house, cars, and even a son. So my house is paid for, cars are paid for, and my son is paid for. I don't have a ton of debt. I am frugal with my money so I don't need stay out 12 weeks to keep the lights on or pay for Xmas. I got into this business because the 10 years I spent at the brick yard took a toll on my body and I can't really do physical labor anymore. I can live fine on 800-1000 a week and I will gladly sacrifice pay to be home with my son. So if going lease gets me 1000 a week on low miles and lots of trips by home count me in. As soon as my year is up I will be local. I've already tested the waters and have a few offers. The only thing holding me back is taking on debt to prime for not finishing the year out. 2 of my friends that started with me have already moved on to local positions, 1 for 22 hourly and the other for 900 weekly.

Posted:  4 years, 7 months ago

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OK so what's the deal with Prime lease?

I know how much leasing is hated here and I agree with you that it is a long term scam. Why else would they push so hard for it on new drivers. My plan is to switch to tanker for my last 6 months for the experience. I was also thinking about going lease for those months as well. If I can get a newer truck that's still under warranty then I should be able to make better money for the last 6 months I plan on being with prime. Everything I've read on other sites about primes tanker division is that they don't get a lot of miles so the only way to make money there is lease

Posted:  4 years, 7 months ago

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OK so what's the deal with Prime lease?

Also, all of my friends from class say that they are making over 2gs a week lease. My best company check has only been 1250 with 3000 miles

Posted:  4 years, 7 months ago

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OK so what's the deal with Prime lease?

Well hub miles have cost me a nice chunk of change this week. 4 loads missing 90 miles each that I don't get paid for. Frustrating

Posted:  4 years, 7 months ago

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Unions ...... Good or bad??

Unions are great! I've found that most people who hate unions are people who are jealous they aren't making the kind of money that union employees make.

Posted:  4 years, 7 months ago

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OK so what's the deal with Prime lease?

I started this journey in June and have been solo driving since August. When I was done with tnt and upgrading they were pushing everyone to lease. I stuck to my guns and went company. I was the only one out of my group of friends who did. Now 4 months in I have been dispatched 4 times in a row this week on the same load to and from Kalamazoo MI to Murfreesboro TN. I have noticed multiple times that the dispatch miles are never as much as the actual miles but it has never really been that much. Well this run that I have been stuck on for a week now is a big difference. Dispatch is 488, actual miles are 574. Damn near 90 miles difference. I didn't say anything the first time but when I got dispatched right back I asked my fm about it and if I could get paid for them. He said he'd look into it. A day and a half later when I dropped and was dispatched right back again I asked again about the miles, seeing as I get paid by the mile, and he replied that I would not get the difference. That there system says 488 and that's what I am paid for and if it I didn't want to be paid btm I should switch to lease. REALLY? Why do they want everyone to be lease so bad?

Posted:  4 years, 7 months ago

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Any prime tankers here?

When I was recruited, I was told that because of my location that I would be home every 7-10 days. I'm sure by "home" they mean a 10 hour break, which I've done a few times in reefer, but does anybody have any experience with it? Do you really pass home that often? If that's the case, count me in. That makes it pretty much a regional job.

Posted:  4 years, 7 months ago

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Any prime tankers here?

I've been with reefer the last 4 months and have noticed that most of the local jobs in my area, Akron / Canton Ohio, are tanker. So I've been thinking about switching from reefer for the experience. Can anyone tell me what they make on average and how often they are home?

Posted:  4 years, 11 months ago

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Question about training, dispatcher, home time, and pay

Joshua, many people get into Trucking school, or on the road and it's close to the first time in their life that so much had been demanded of them. The whole process from CDL permit to solo driver is full of hurdles they can barely get over. Also, so many expect nice hotels, decent food provided, and, as Sam is finding out, promises & dates he thought were "set" aren't necessarily so. Several people in this thread have pointed out that new guys aren't always going to get what they want.

People who have been in the military know you have to work hard for some things they took for granted as civilians. It's not a case of rookies are people, too. It's the rude awakening of life in a rough business.

FYI, early on I had a home time set, for a weekend. Because of dispatches sent to me, I didn't get home till Tuesday, four days late. Been there, done that.

I think the problem starts at the beginning, the recruiters lie off the rip. If I was going by what I was told from them then I would have started psd by day 5, which I did but only because I found a trainer not because they had a trainer for me. There were plenty of others waiting over a week. Also was told by the recruiter that I would get home the first time following psd, which everyone now knows was a lie, and would be home every 3 to 4 weeks after. The first thing we were told in orientation was that we would be there 6 to 12 weeks before we would get home. There were plenty of people who were told by the recruiters they were good to go only to get sent home when they got there, and of course after they quit there last job, for past work history. Hell one guy I knew got sent home because of the adhd medicine he was taking, even know he told the recruiter before hand he was on it. It seems like the recruiters goal is to just get as many people there as possible which is completely wrong because people quit there jobs thinking they are coming to start a new career. I was one of those people, I disclosed my past work history which was great up until a few years ago I worked for the same company for 10 years that later went under. Since then Ive had 4 jobs in 5 years as I try to find a fit. The last job I had up until the day before I got on the bus. I went into training thinking I was making a career change to something I could enjoy, a career where I decide how much Im worth instead of a "boss". The company I worked for for 10 years was an incentive job and I loved it. It was up to me on how much I could make so it made me want to work harder, unlike the jobs I had after. I didnt enjoy working for companies where I got paid as much as everyone else when I was the hardest working person there. Over time it turns into resent. Any way, my 3rd day there I got called into the office because of the fact that I had quit my last 3 jobs and that they couldnt contact the company that went under. REALLY? How am I supposed toverify a company that is no longer around? The only thing I could offer as contact for that company was the former owners phone number because we are still friends. The office guy flat out said that they could not accept a personal phone number as a contact for a company because it could just be a friend of mine. I was worried about being sent home. All of this should have been checked before I even got a bus pass. Thank goodness the companies I quit all described me a stellar employee or else I would have been screwed.

Posted:  4 years, 11 months ago

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Question about training, dispatcher, home time, and pay

I have talked to my trainers dispatcher and explained my situation. He apologized to me for the delay on my home time and said that there is a load from that area everyday that he planned on giving me. That was the first time that he could remember that there wasnt a load. I will be getting my guaranteed money for this week while I wait at home to be picked up tomorrow. No bad blood

Posted:  4 years, 11 months ago

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Question about training, dispatcher, home time, and pay

I have no intentions of quitting prime, to be honest with you I actually enjoy being a truck driver. I do feel however that the program is broken. They make a lot of promises, and if I take this forums word, that arent kept. I also think the training part has some big holes in it, Ive already vented about my training. I talked to my dispatcher the way that I did because of these reasons. In a few weeks I will have my own truck and I will interview new dispatchers so by the time I leave MI I will hopefully set and ready for a wonderful career.

Posted:  4 years, 11 months ago

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Question about training, dispatcher, home time, and pay

Im sorry you feel that way daniel but what I did was by no way in the wrong or disrespectful. I simply asked if I would be reimbursed for money spent. The only reason money was spent was because I was told to go ahead and spend it. I am in no way acting like I know better than the rest or how to run it better I am simply stating facts. Fact 1, I was told by said dispatcher and said trainer that I would be home on said day because said trainer and said dispatcher had already planned on said trainer being home said day 3 months in advance. Originally I was going to take my home time earlier but because my trainer had already turned in his home time I figured it would be easier to do them the same time. Fact 2, I was introduced into the world of trucking with guarantees that Prime understands the stress of being on the road away from family and that home time is a priority. You may not get it the first thing in the morning but at some point within that day you will be on your way home. Fact 3, on said day I dropped off at 10am and started waiting to be routed home. I was not upset that I was not home yet and understood that I may not make it home until the next morning but at no point was I planning on receiving a dispatch to pick up the next day sometime between 11am and 9pm, 250 miles further east than I already was, that dropped off 2 days later still not in the direction of my house. Let me break it down, on monday I picked up in MI and dropped off tues morning in PA. At that point I was 6 hours away from home in OH. Why then would I be routed to pick up further into PA and drop off in Virginia? At no point was that going near my house or my trainers house in KY. Furthermore, my trainer was right there beside me complaining because he had a wedding to attend, hence why he had put in his home time to begin with months in advance. He was also the person who told me to drive over my 14 in order for him to have enough hours to make it home. He would also have had to drive over his hours that day seeing as he only got back 6 at midnight.

Posted:  4 years, 11 months ago

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Question about training, dispatcher, home time, and pay

Im not trying to bite the hand that feeds me, I am simply relying on the information I was given by the head of the company. Our first day in training we, the new recruits, were told by Stan and by the HR lady, cant remember her name off hand, that we the drivers were in charge of our trucks. Not the dispatchers, that we could fire the dispatchers if we felt they weren't handling us properly and get a new one. We were also told that our home time would be handled as priority, I dont think sitting empty from 10am til the next evening at 9pm when I am supposed to be heading home is priority. When I was running, making money for the dispatcher, I would drop off and pick up another load within a 3 hour time frame. Now when I am supposed to be taking my home time there is nothing anywhere? Doesnt add up. Speaking to my trainer that day about the situation, he told me that it was very common for his trainer to instantly not give a **** whenever it was time to get home time. Seeing as he has had to deal with this for the past 3 years, Im going to believe my trainer. The way he explained it to me was that the dispatcher didnt care about my home time because he wasnt going to make any money by having me pick up a load only to repower it to someone else. So instead he was waiting to find a load that would be delivered and he could make money off of. Now how does that sound like my home time is priority? I got into this business to make money, plain and simple. If Im running I have no problem making money for any dispatcher, but when I put in home time I expect it to be made a priority to get me home. What I dont expect is to sit at the 90 for 8 to 10 hours for that perfect load for the dispatcher when I could be headed home.

Posted:  4 years, 11 months ago

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Question about training, dispatcher, home time, and pay

I sent a message to my dispatcher about the pay for the week so we will see how that goes. I also received the next dispatch for my truck and ,although the next pickup is in my state, it is 3 hours away from my house and dropping off the next morning in KY which is even further away. WTF. Im waiting to hear back from my trainer on whether I have to have my gf drive me 3 hours west to columbus or if he is going to go 3 hours out of his way to pick me up.

Posted:  4 years, 11 months ago

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Question about training, dispatcher, home time, and pay

I understand that you have to be on the truck the entire week but the way it was explained to me was that it is of no fault of my own that I am not on the truck. I was scheduled to be back on the truck at the beginning of the pay period and my dispatcher is the person not allowing me to be on the truck.

Posted:  4 years, 11 months ago

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Question about training, dispatcher, home time, and pay

I am still inTNT training and my trainer and I took our home time this past week, last Tuesday to this Tuesday. Let me rephrase, I was supposed to start my home time last Tuesday, what actually happened is I dropped a load Tues morning at 10 am and sat waiting at the receiver til 4pm for my next load to get me home seeing as I was still over 600 miles away.

At 4pm I messaged my dispatcher to find out wth was going on. He then sent up a load going further east that didn't even pick up til the next morning and didn't drop off til Friday. Once again I messaged him stating that both my trainer and I were supposed to be starting our home time, tues for me and wed for my trainer. He replied that it was the best he could do. I sent another message stating that I had already made plans with my family to go to an amusement park wed and that I had already payed for a hotel because my hometime was set a month ahead of time and that I hadn't been home since starting my training with prime 6 weeks prior.

Once again he sent a reply stating this was the best they could do. At this point I was pretty heated so I sent a reply stating that I would expect him to reimburse me for the money I had spent on the hotel and that this instance was probably one of the top reasons they have such a high turn around of students quitting while in training. At this point I figured he was getting peeved because he then sent a reply telling me to deadhead home and for my trainer to drop the trailer in Springfield and bobtail to his home.

At this point it was already after 6pm, needless to say I had to drive over my 14hour clock in order to get home and I didn't get home until 2am wed morning. I received my pay stub last night knowing that I wouldn't make much because the only miles I drove last week were the miles I drove home but I thought I would at least be paid for those miles. Instead I got a 0 mile pay and was charged for my training which equaled a negative pay. WTF? Is this right?

Now I was supposed to be back out Tuesday and instead I have been sitting at home waiting. They sent my trainer out Tues but no where near me. Supposedly, after he drops off this load he will be dispatched by me so I can get back on the truck but at this point it already screws me on my pay. I talked to another dispatcher and he said I should still get paid my guaranteed min pay of 700 since I was supposed to be on a truck at the beginning of the pay period and that if Im not I need to bring it up to human resources. WTF? Is this usually this much of a pain in the ass? How did I get stuck with a crappy dispatcher?

Posted:  4 years, 11 months ago

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Oh How I Despise Team Driving

Even though tnt sucks it's not bad enough to make me quit. All it does is motivate me more to get in my own truck. I've spoken to other who came in the same class as I did who say the same things. No showers, non Stop, filthy truck with trash everywhere. We've already agreed to not be that way when we get our own trucks lol. I know I'm not alone with my situation so that makes it easier to deal with. I get a weeks worth of home time this Tuesday so I can suffer a few more days of filth. I also know that I'm getting back on this truck more prepared after my home time. 1 of my biggest gripes is the fact that he refuses to stop by a Walmart so I can get groceries. Instead it's eating out everyday. I swear I burn through 150$ a week just in overpriced fast food. I've already told him I'm getting back on with groceries and a crock pot. I only have 4 to 5 weeks left on this truck, God willing, then I'm in my own. So I can suffer through that to get where I need to be. The funny part is that he keeps pitching me to stay on the truck. At first he offered a whole 16 cents per mile but after his friend offered me 900 a week minimum he said he'd give me half to stay. Funny thing about half is he doesn't know what that actually means. He said he'd give me half of his net take home. I argued that net isn't half. I understand that you can't count the truck payment into income but fml he pays 900$ a month in child support and spousal support and doesn't think that counts into earned income. Same with breakdown expenses, they shouldn't go against me when I'm not getting half of the lease completion bonus. Side note, the way it was explained to me is that unless you are overweight, over 6 foot, or running teams you Do NOT get a condo in reefer. You are stuck with a lw

Posted:  4 years, 11 months ago

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Oh How I Despise Team Driving

All in all it took my trainer 10 hours to go 289 miles. I finished up the last 630 in my 10. Yes my trainer is a lease op, he claims to make 6 figures a year, which has me interested in lease. But there are so many horror stories on here about lease. And to call my trainer an actual trainer is a joke. During psd I did 0 pretrips, in his defense I could say the entire thing word for word. Also during psd he wouldn't let me back up. I drove every minute so I did get my 75 in 11 days. When we got back to campus his girlfriend showed up and I had 0 backing practice before my test the 3rd day. I failed, then he decided to get me pad time at 10pm that night on East where you can't see squat. He gave up about 30 min into it and I failed again the next day. When he walked out of the shack with his hands up I threw the keys at his head and went off to get me a ****ing pad and a truck. He did manage to get one of his buddies to give me his pad time. Then he dropped me off to use a pad truck while he went to dinner with his girlfriend. I figured it out and passed the next day. He's a nice guy but a horrible trainer. His fleet Mgr knows all this but told me I may have to wait a few weeks if I wanted another trainer so I decided to suck it up and just get it over with.

Posted:  4 years, 11 months ago

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Oh How I Despise Team Driving

And now that we have gone over 200 miles he still doesn't want to stop because he doesn't want the food at flying js or the rest area. He wants TA that's 40 miles ahead. I have to MFing pee. I can't sleep when I have to pee and I take over driving in a few hours . Fml

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