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First pic is the actual crash report description. The description isn’t terribly accurate. Lost my brakes on the off ramp not as I approached. But anyways that’s not the point. No mention of drug or alcohol. 2nd pic is how it reflects on the background report.

Thanks for you help Rob and looking into that and sending that link. I will file a hearing for now but have contacted a lawyer to consider my options. Just waiting on a call back.

Well I just finally got answer. And it way worse than I could if ever imagined. It doesn’t even make sense. I’m not even sure how it’s legal. It’s not legal.

Bobcat was correct there to two different mvr reports but I guess you need to call the state for the abstract report. Which I did. Spoke with a very nice lady who did some digging. She pulls it up and says there is a box on the crash report that an officer can check if he feels the crash was simply “alcohol related”

And he checked it. Can someone make sense of this for me? How on earth can I have such a thing on my record if I wasn't given any kind of sobriety or drug test, no ticket, not listed at a preventable, never lead to believe the officer had any suspicions of my being intoxicated but can just check some box and rip my driving record.

So I asked her how this is supposed to be fixed. She said go the the station that the trooper is out of. That is a hour and a half away. She said I need to go there and have the report amended. I called and asked to speak with that trooper and he has since retired. I’m physically ill and completely in disbelief over it.

Has anybody ever heard of this before? I have only one option. Lawyer up. Hell maybe I’ll call the I-team investigates team or something. This is insane.

Thanks for your insight Rob. I have a few more questions for you but want to address Bobcat first.

I’ll have to double check but it would appear to me that he court ordered mvr is the same as the abstract. When ever I’ve gone to the dmv for an mvr copy I’ve only ever been given two options. Job seeker or court ordered. When I looked online how to get a abstract copy it’s the same process as a court ordered copy.

I'll give you credit for fighting so vigorously, a lot of people would have just moved on.

Not sure it will help, but did you request your Illinois driving record abstract? You can do it online or at the DMV. It might have something different than the court purpose MVR since there was no ticket or conviction.

Hey Anne, unfortunately one of the companies you mentioned is in fact the one conducting my background report. Dealing with them initially was awful. But dealing with their dispute department has been much better over the past 24 hours.

I’ve called both the dmv and the background company no less than a dozen times a piece this week digging for info. The background company says call the dmv. Dmv says they have no clue. At this point I’m just going to keep starsky and hutchin and wait for that document and take it to the dmv like PJ mentioned since it appears that is the source of information.

To your point Joseph yes I did consider that because it so happens myself and my father have the same name. But the thing is they are claiming the drugs or alcohol is specifically linked to the accident. And the accident date is accurate. But I haven’t completely ruled that out.

There are a ton of discrepancies I have came across. One for example is from what I’ve seen everything is coded. The background report I got has a box that says “Illinois dmv specific messages” it has the wreck and the code for it. Than next to it it just says alcohol or drugs present. No kind of coding. Illinois has very specific coding for that kind of an offense.

That’s the only place I’ve actually seen alcohol or drugs present. But no documents supporting where it is coming from. Well see what the next 24 hours bring.

Ya know I called on that this morning. I asked them to read back to me verbatim what they were saying. They read back the accurate date and time of the accident. Read what I saw on my mvr. But than went on to say the drug OR alcohol present. Not and present like I’ve been saying. But they were and are still at a lost as too why im not seeing this information or seeing nothing that would support such a claim.

I was trying not to be snarky with them but I asked them if they could tell me where on the mvr it had my dui conviction. They said it doesn’t I said right. So how can drug or alcohol be present? I would of left the scene in cuffs. They didn’t have an answer for that.

They said it could be someone at the scene could of been intoxicated? I said that makes no sense why would anybody be a designated driver than? I spoke with them a few hours ago and they are going to send me the document that says the drug or alcohol present. Because I have yet to see a document. When I get that I’m taking it straight to the dmv.

There has to be a mistake somewhere. Somewhere, somebody knows something. The law doesn’t work this way. Can’t say hey Robert committed murder but he never went to court, prison and we have no proof at all but we’re going to put it on his record anyways.

I wonder if maybe, just maybe something is coming up wrong in their search? I had a situation a few years ago where my license was temporarily suspended and I almost wound up in cuffs because an individual at the BMV transposed a number wrong and it automatically suspended my license.

I’m not even sure where to start. Here’s the situation. A few years back I was involved in a single vehicle rollover accident. Just myself and my helper. Nothing else involved person or property. The Hino straight truck I was in had the brakes go out as a direct result of the drive shaft detaching from the vehicle. Till this day I have no idea what caused it. This all happened on a off ramp. I should also mention no tickets or citations given. Report says no fault determined.

Probably 6 or 7 months after that I applied for a job with ABF. I get a letter from the third party company that did the background that it was reported on my mvr that quote “drugs and alcohol present” I was immediately denied employment understandably. I immediately go to the dmv I get a court purpose mvr. Guess what? No mention of said claim. I request a copy of my dac report no mention. I chalked it off as a major mess up by that the company because I soon after got hired by my currently employer.

Fast forward to a few weeks ago when I decided to pull the trigger on applying to Old Dominion Freight Line. Interview goes great road test goes great. Things seemed to be flowing nicely. Till I get a call hearing the same thing the previous background company said. This company was different than the previous. I immediately start fighting this tooth and nail.

I get another copy of my mvr. Clean. I get a copy of the crash report from Illinois state police. No mention of drugs and alcohol. I get a copy of my psp report. Yep no mention. I get a copy of my DAC report. Any guess? Yep no mention of drug or alcohol.

I’ve been on the phone for easily 12 hours on the past 3 days. Most of that time on hold. I call the dmv. They said they have no idea what I’m talking about. I call the background company they tell me to call the dmv. I call Illinois State Police they tell me they have no idea what I’m talking about.

The biggest kicker? I called the background company asking them where they are getting this info from? Why can’t I see it? What are they seeing that I’m not or can’t see? Their response? “Your mvr” but it’s not anywhere on my mvr or anywhere anywhere. They tell me dispute with the dmv. But I can’t dispute what the dmv can’t even acknowledge exists.

I’m at a complete loss over it. So I will be getting a lawyer here within the next day or 2. Which is completely foreign to me. I have no idea what else to do. How can such verbiage exists when there is nothing supporting it? Meaning no drug test or sobriety test or anything was given. If drugs and alcohol were present in a cmv I would have been arrested. I’ve never even been in cuffs.

Anyways that’s that If anybody feels there must be more to this story I wouldn’t even get defensive about it because I’m still in disbelief over it myself.

Anybody have suggestions. Rob. D? Rick. S you out there buddy?

I tried running one from my phone. I can’t remember which one it was use but I would use it even when I knew where I was going. I’d say it was accurate 75 percent of the time at the best. My Garmin has yet to cross me. You don’t need a massive 8 inch tablet the smaller one is just fine. Especially when you’re going to be split seating like I will be soon.

No definitely get an actual gps in my opinion.

Ya for sure. Can I get a trucker gps on my phone or do I need to get an actual truck gps

Once you get going solo, you can save all the addresses on your own GPS. That's what I do for all the different Walmarts and Sam's Clubs that I deliver to.

Just took mine a few weeks ago. It was I think it was about 88 dollars for the tsa check. I was cleared less than 24 hours later. Was able to take the test the following day. 5 dollar fee to take it.

Congratulations Moe! 3 months down 9 to go. If you had a rough road but sounds like you are doing well. That one year mark will feel like an even bigger accomplishment.

Definitely different from what I’m used to. But to be honest the only time I got alittle uncomfortable was when turning. I was swinging wider than I probably needed to but otherwise it was all good. Ask me again when I’m fully loaded at highway speeds for a night shift haha

I passed. No issues. No negative comments. So we’re good there. Was told I had the doubles well for never driving then before. So now gotta take the drug test and wait on corporate. Since their going to a new system Tammy thinks the process will be quicker than a month.

You never reverse. Ever. Since this is your first time I’m sure you’ll be fine. But I’m guessing you learned you lesson. Never reverse.

Good to know. Thanks Bobcat! I’ll update as soon as I can.

Victoria still around Bobcat?

They going to make you a trainer already? And that’s good to know about that hazmat. Any tips or advice for the road test?

O boy city driving tomorrow huh? Do you know yet if you’re going to be line haul or P&D after training?

O okay seems easy enough. Has there every been a time where paperwork said no placard but you in fact needed one?

And I goofed it, take two!

Hahaha she had nothing but nice things to say about you. The road test got pushed back till Friday at 6 am. She isn’t going to have someone at noon tomorrow like she thought. No big deal. She also said since I have my medical long form I won’t actually have to see their physician. Works for me.

Sorry to leave you hanging Bobcat. They took me straight to Tammy. I have a road test on Thursday around noon.

That's great to hear! I was getting worried you mentioned my name and they threw you out lol

That's a good sign I think that they scheduled the driving test so fast. Good luck!

Sorry to leave you hanging Bobcat. They took me straight to Tammy. I have a road test on Thursday around noon.