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Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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Career change at 50 to truck driver

Thanks Gary... I may do that when I head to Columbus on the 7th.

For those of you that find my current job (soon to be former job) interesting, Here is a link to my website: http://www.parableguitars.net Here is a unique build video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEUfDHw2GO0

Just for the record, I still plan on building guitars in my off time. I have an apprentice, and another helper that have helped me with the sanding. Starting next week I will be banking up enough sanded bodies & necks to keep me going for at least 4 years in my off time. Who knows... There may be a truck themed build in my future.

Wow ,that was an incredible guitar build. The Master. My baby son 26 years old just bought a Taylor 514. sunburst top?. I cant play but he sure can. They got a few little gigs they do in Siloam Springs Ar. in the summers. I will check back in a few days if im not directed elsewhere.

Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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Career change at 50 to truck driver

Thanks for all the honest opinions. The info helps a lot. It looks like perspective is key to ones opinion. I've been researching 2-3 hours a day minimum. At some point all the info becomes a wash, and you go into information overload.

As of today, the plan is to step into something new at the first of the year. I like some of the options that Roehl offers. I'm not a big fan of being tied to them for a year or more... But, I'm not scared of a commitment either. On the other hand, Schneider looks good too. I've looked at SWIFT. I still need to research them more.

I live between Dayton & Cinci. It looks like a good location to live as a prospective driver. I'm an hour & 1/2 form Columbus too. Schneider has a recruiting event south of Columbus on 11-7. PastorC: are you planning on going to that?

HuntinDoug Here is some good advice...Go to a truck stop and talk to as many drivers as you can.. Talk to some Swift drivers Roehl drivers, make sure to talk to as many drivers from different companies as you can. Dont be afraid to ask there length of employment with the company. Research.. Research.. Research different ways to get schooling. This conversation that is going on really benefits YOU. I'm very glad i joined. I guess what i say is fodder and will be directed to some other place soon. If you make the plunge into trucking i would love to read an update.

Good Luck To You

Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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Age 23, almost zero work experience. Can I be hired?

Jack,

Trucking is a hard job that requires commitment and absolute professionalism. I personally don't think your lack of gainful employment at this point will be a huge problem.You have been in college and worked in the library done some off the books work. We have drivers out here that come from overseas ,im not sure how they would show a work history. I (think) we are required to list 10 years for driving jobs if you haven't been in a job that follows dot rules then its only 3 years. So you would just put down your college and work study ect. In my State i have been told there is no restriction on how long you need to have your regular drivers license before you test for your CDL, this may vary by State.

Call your DMV then call some company's.

Good Luck To You

Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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Career change at 50 to truck driver

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Many will steer you to company paid schooling sign a contract and say you must stay with them for a year, (there are other ways i would do it ).

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What is wrong with a little commitment??!!

No, it's not "company paid", it's company financed. You are going to pay it, either through payroll deduction if you stay with said company, or they will follow you and collect on you if they have to.

One year, and getting paid for working, isn't such a big deal. Also, if you want to jump to supposedly greener grass, your record of job hopping may not set too well with the new company you want to work for so badly.

Nothing wrong with commitment.. Its obvious hes given lots of commitment in his life. When your 50+ years old why lock your self into 1 year contract with an OTR company?. If he decides at 6 months to go home and work local hes free to do so if he doesn't have said contract. The area he lives in has good opportunity for local work.

Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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Career change at 50 to truck driver

The stamina part you'll adapt to. Everyone is utterly exhausted pretty much all the time the first few months of their career. After a while you'll adapt to the long days and it won't be a big deal.

Back pain really isn't something you hear much about in trucking. The trucks have several layers of air suspension between you and the road. You have airbags in the suspension, the cab sits on airbags, and the seat itself has an air suspension. You'll still be bouncing around somewhat but it isn't bone-rattling awful unless you're on an exceptionally bad road. If you take care of your back by do some stretching everyday and get a little exercise you should be fine. If you can sit in a regular chair for a few hours at a time you should be fine in a truck.

As far as home time, there are indeed jobs that can get you home at least every weekend straight out of school. There are people that have landed jobs that get you home every night straight out of school but those are pretty rare. You'll normally need at least a few months of OTR experience before a local company will give you a shot. But your long term plan sounds perfectly reasonable.

Go through our Truck Driver's Career Guide from beginning to end and follow all of the links you come across. That will give you a ton of information about what it takes to get your career off to a great start.

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Some of these giant OTR company's have drivers out there that could qualify for food stamps. Many will steer you to company paid schooling sign a contract and say you must stay with them for a year, (there are other ways i would do it ). There are drivers landing local jobs right out of Community college driving schools. Now when the big company guys jump in here , remember, if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is.

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Gary, you're free to dislike working for the large companies and you can do things however you like. But spare us the snarky B.S., the ridiculous exaggerations, and the insinuation that you're somehow smarter or more honest than the "big company guys" or any guys for that matter, ok? We're trying to help people get their careers underway and understand how the trucking industry works. You're not helping. You say you would do it differently. If you were hurting for money and couldn't get a loan, how do you propose someone should go about getting their career underway? The company schools exist to help people get started in the industry that don't have $3,000-$6,000 lying around that they can use on private tuition. And in case it hadn't dawned on you, most people switch careers because they're in a tough position financially and they're looking to make things better.

HuntinDoug, you'll be doing yourself a great service by ignoring that kind of baloney.

I will just say you know as well as i do that this is a hard job and very demanding so why sugar coat it? Seriously? "Back pain really isn't something you hear much about in trucking " Back problems effect a lot of drivers in this industry. Will Prime still hire him to pull a skateboard if he tells them he has back problems? I would think (some) company's might even be reluctant to hire someone with known back problems. Because i said (there are other ways i would do it ) meaning i would personally NEVER recommend someone sign a 1 year contract for schooling. He could get a student loan or a grant, maybe even go through a state program for the unemployed and go to a community college for 1/4 the cost and then have his choice of company's to work for. I was not using snarky B.S and rediculous exaggeration, i was telling the truth. Of course our trucks have air ride but ive had jaw rattling nights even trying to nap in the bunk while the wife drove .

In no way do i think im smarter than anyone, i made it clear my book education is extremely limited , everything i learned was looking through the windshield of a truck. I just got my first smart phone this month just so i can communicate with the grandkids and look on a few websites. Im to old to waste anyone's time sugar coating the truth. I just gave the honest truth and my suggestion on how i would do things if i were in his shoes. I have absolutely no problems with big company's , but when there drivers get these large bonuses for referring drivers sometimes the facts don't always make it to the surface.

I looked back over everything i said and cant find anything that wasn't 100% accurate. I don't like to argue in person and sure don't like to argue with my terrible grammar and im real slow on these buttons.

Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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Husband Wife Team Driving Help!

Sorry was tired when i made that last post. I guess the consensus could have been you and your wife..

Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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Husband Wife Team Driving Help!

Thanks for all the ideas. I would like to do training together but the consensus seems to be that training together wouldn't be good. But if it is doable, I think that would be best for us.

If YOU think it would be best then who cares about the consensus ...You and your wife make the decision..I would not throw my loved one on a truck with a stranger for a month. I've had her 31 years not going to feed her to the wolves yet.. I think the company i saw training husband and wife together was Armellini logistics from Florida.

Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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Career change at 50 to truck driver

Doug

I started driving trucks in 1978 and OTR for 26 years now. I have raised a family and almost paid for my home. Trucking has been good to me. Would i do it again.. MAYBE... I should have stayed in school and got at least a minimal education.

The decision on the Company you choose to drive for is totally your decision. I have noticed a few select company names regularly being mentioned. Research Research Research!! Ask lots of questions..Driving truck is hard work. Long irregular hours and tough on your health and family life. I cant say wether or not your back will hold up,but i can say the nations roads are deteriorating and you will be in that seat long hours grinding it out.

This is the first forum i have joined so im not sure what i can really say, but i like your idea of local driving work paid by the hour home every night. Some of these giant OTR company's have drivers out there that could qualify for food stamps. Many will steer you to company paid schooling sign a contract and say you must stay with them for a year, (there are other ways i would do it ). There are drivers landing local jobs right out of Community college driving schools. Now when the big company guys jump in here , remember, if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is.

Good Luck To You

Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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DOT Physical and Medical card

I live in Missouri and was able to take test but couldn't get physical permit till I had physical. I took my test results with me to prime and obtained the actual permit once I had done my physical at the terminal

Thank you that's good to know. This must have taken place after July 15. I know they had a lot of changes tied to there HWY funding bill.

Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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DOT Physical and Medical card

I don't know about Illinois, but Wisconsin required a medical card before receiving a permit. Initial drug testing was a part of the medical exam. The DMV let me take my knowledge/endorsement exams before my physical, but I couldn't actually get my permit until after I could present the medical card.

Im rambling way off subject

I may be totally wrong, but our Doctor said the urine sample he collects at the Physical is only for Kidney screening and something about sugar in the urine? I really don't care just like to know facts.

Michael, If money is tight and the money for the physical is an issue,you could go in the dmv today take the test and walk out with your permit, it would just be intrastate. Then if you take a dot physical for the school turn that physical in to the State and then you have a interstate permit that you can drive on.

Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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DOT Physical and Medical card

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The answer wasn't what I wanted but, oh well, just means some money out of pocket beforehand, it's not the end of the world.

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The answer was? They require the medical exam certificate be presented as part of the CDL permit application?

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Correct, to have a interstate cdl permit you have to have a DOT physical beforehand. Intrastate you don't, but you cant legally practice without it even then.

Thank you for the update. All the states should follow the same rules.

Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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DOT Physical and Medical card

I had to have both my medical and drug test to get my permit. You will be operating a CMV on public roadways and therefore are subject to the same requirements as a CDL holder.

Phil

Interesting, What State required you to take a drug test to get your permit?

Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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DOT Physical and Medical card

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That's what is confusing, it didn't make any sense as to why they would need it just for the permit, I can understand it when you go to get your actual cdl. But it is Illinois so it doesn't surprise me. I'm going to call them tomorrow and find out what they say.

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I don't know about Illinois specifically, but a CDL permit gives you all the rights and privileges of a full CDL holder, save you can't drive without a fully licensed CDL person with you.

So, with all those rights, you need to be physically able to do the job. And that physical card is good for your full CDL, too.

I as well will be interested in Illinois law on this.. Across the river in Missouri and many other States you do NOT need a DOT phyisical to Test for and obtain the permit.

Now if you want to actually drive a CMV using that permit you will need to carry your passed long form with you.

When he calls he needs to specify he is only taking his permit.

Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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DOT Physical and Medical card

Let us know the answer when you go to the DMV. I say the answer is like the other states our company has dealt with. No you do not need a medical for just the permit. There is nothing for the state to attach the medical to,you are not a cdl holder and you will not need to self certify at that point anyway.

Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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Gaining my CDL the cheapest way

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The segment of oil that slowed down are the Wells that were on permit on federal lands. Obama pulled those permits and the oil companies are just sitting on it awaiting the next president. The companies who are leasing private land are doing exceptionally well.

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oooooh.......stupid me. I've been thinking all along that the oil industry came to a standstill because the oil prices dropped from $115/barrel to $44/barrel in six months:

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You would think after all these years I would finally catch on and just blame Obama for everything bad that happens. When will I learn?

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If you just need your class A for cranes or driving equipment from job to job than there is no need to sign on to a company for a year just to use their truck to take the test. Lots of 1 day CDL schools rent there trucks for one day and give you a few hours of instruction so you can pass the pre trip and driving

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But will they hire him as a driver if he's self-taught? Would you hire someone to drive around your 80,000 pound truck knowing you're legally responsible if they screw up? If a driver gets in a wreck and someone sues the company, how long do you think it would take their attorneys to figure out the driver had no formal training or experience in a Class A truck? And how do you think that would sit with a judge or jury?

Erick, if you have a job lined up already and they're telling you to get your Class A by any means necessary then yes indeed you can do this yourself. But I wouldn't go through the time and money it's going to take to get your Class A on your own if you don't have a solid job lined up.

Are all those questions for me? Im just an old truck driver but can answer them if needed. I should have read this more thoroughly, i was only responding to his inquiry of obtaining the CDL A. He did say for operating cranes or local driving. Lots of jobs require Class A and would not justify working for a major carrier for a year to use there truck for testing.

I do however think you might be surprised at the answers to all your questions

If he had his CDL A he could be driving an 80,000 pound vehicle with no experience immediately for harvest and many other fields.

Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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Gaining my CDL the cheapest way

Thanks guys. I looked into prime a while back and they did hire in central FL at the time but now I live in south west FL. Ill give them a call to see if they hire in this area or not. I don't believe I'm cut out for OTR trucking. I do however need my CDL A license to get a job either operating cranes or local driving like I would be doing for the oil companies. I know times are tough in the oil fields right now but it will come back eventually.

If you just need your class A for cranes or driving equipment from job to job than there is no need to sign on to a company for a year just to use there truck to take the test. Lots of 1 day CDL schools rent there trucks for one day and give you a few hours of instruction so you can pass the pre trip and driving. This company is out of Missouri but i have seen these companies everywhere in the south http://www.casecdl.com/cdlhomepage.html

Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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A rock and hard place

Ok to throw a couple things your way

You can get your CDL (permit) on your own. While your there take the test for doubles, triples, tankers ect. You can get the book to study at your local DMV. Its just a written test or test on a computer.

In my State our Community college only charges $1800.00 for a 160 hr CDL course. Make sure the company you want to drive for will accept the school you choose.

I have never heard of a 6 month long CDL training? What on earth would you be doing for 6 months? Scam alert

Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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Starting a new career

Sorry, I am not explaining myself well. The travel time I am talking about is when I do get time off. Prime is in Mo and I live in Wisconsin. Unless I take the truck home with me I still need to get back and forth from the terminal and home.

Prime will pay for your bus ticket to Springfield Mo. For example the company we drive for is based out of another state. For time off We go home with our truck and trailer. We very rarely ever see the the Home Terminal.

Posted:  3 years, 7 months ago

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Starting a new career

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I don't understand your questions on travel times? Leaving after 6 months will NOT be taking advantage of Prime(you will understand once on the road). Leave on good terms and find a job that suits you better. These stories you must stay for a year are just not true. So many companies are now only asking for 6 months and in some cases less. I would never stay at a job i was not happy with. That being said i have only worked for 2 trucking companies in 26 years,so i don't job hop.

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Sorry, but this is not good advice for an entry level driver. If Prime or any other company trains them, they will want a 1 year commitment and require a signed contract. Otherwise they will be required to pay back a portion of their tuition. In addition there are many companies that require a minimum of 1 year experience for new hires. True, there are some that will hire with only 6 months, but it's unlikely that they'd be any better off than staying with Prime or similar carrier. Companies also want to see a stable history of employment, especially for a new driver.

I maintain the same point Daniel already made, unless there are extenuating circumstances, 1 year is highly recommended for a new driver.

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The OP is well aware he will be charged a dollar amount for leaving after 6 months and he stated he would then have options closer to home. At 6 months Prime will happily take the $1750.00 remaining cost and smile at the same time.

Seriously? Stable work history? Companies are hiring guys straight out of jail in some cases.

If i was advising him i would suggest a community college for the training. Half the cost and no contract to sign.

Posted:  3 years, 8 months ago

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Husband Wife Team Driving Help!

My wife joined me with her CDL at age 50. We run more like a super single. If we were starting fresh i would choose a company that would train us together, NO WAY would i turn her loose with anyone alone. We just delivered in Statesboro Ga and Savannah on Friday, wife wants to move there now. Not many places to park bobtail on Tybee Island but we did and had a great time.

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