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Posted:  2 months, 2 weeks ago

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Can you be an actual owner/operator at Prime?

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Yeah, they do a "lease purchase" with $14,000 down and no credit check (both used and new trucks) and you run under their authority. they also have a division where you get your own authority and run load boards....the same loads the rest of us run. There are truck requirements and honestly.... for the lease purchase you need to lease a truck for 3 months to order the truck then 3 mos until it comes in.

as someone who has looked into this a lot... it just doesn't add up for a newbie. You really need to kmow the freight lines and rates a nd understand the fueling to make it work.

Most people never read the contracts and dont understand just how much money is being taken every week.

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So would it also be a bad idea to buy a used truck from somewhere unrelated to Prime and use that?

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Terrible idea. First, you wouldnt be to get a decent interest rate because you never owned a truck before. and you are expected to put down a much higher down payment. Also, the truck would need to be fairly new as Turtle pointed out.

and the fact you have to ask these questions tells me you really dont know anything about trucking and/or prime and would be putting yourself at considerable risk.

little known fact.. a lease op can have an accident and if a self insured company such as prime or any of the big ones deems the accident to be at fault due to negligence.. that lease/owner op is held accountable for the damages...not just the deductible. same is true for freight..so slam on your brakes and you didnt properly secure the meat load... BAM! $50,000 bill, not covered by insurance.

just last week 2 idiots hit a low clearnace awning at a local hotel. $10k each.

Just go company and learn as much as you can with prime or any other company paying for the damages. cause chances are, you are gonna hit something

You're right, I don't know much about trucking. I've just been pondering this idea for the last few days, thinking if I did do this, it would be at least a year from now. I would be able to buy the truck outright, since it would be a full year of team driving with no bills at home. The insurance stuff does scare me though, good point.

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This is probably a dumb question but I just want to be sure. I obviously hear a lot about people leasing on with Prime, but I never hear about people just buying their own trucks and working as o/o's with Prime. So, you can do this, right?

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Austin, Just out of curiosity, why do you want to own your own Truck? Have you ever heard the saying: "A boat is a hole in the water, into which you pour money"? Same thing applies here too. Who have you been talking to that makes you think owning your own Truck is a good idea?

The net earnings really do seem to be up there for o/o's who know what they're doing (not saying I do at all, I'm just considering it for the future).

Posted:  2 months, 2 weeks ago

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Can you be an actual owner/operator at Prime?

Yeah, they do a "lease purchase" with $14,000 down and no credit check (both used and new trucks) and you run under their authority. they also have a division where you get your own authority and run load boards....the same loads the rest of us run. There are truck requirements and honestly.... for the lease purchase you need to lease a truck for 3 months to order the truck then 3 mos until it comes in.

as someone who has looked into this a lot... it just doesn't add up for a newbie. You really need to kmow the freight lines and rates a nd understand the fueling to make it work.

Most people never read the contracts and dont understand just how much money is being taken every week.

So would it also be a bad idea to buy a used truck from somewhere unrelated to Prime and use that?

Posted:  2 months, 2 weeks ago

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Can you be an actual owner/operator at Prime?

This is probably a dumb question but I just want to be sure. I obviously hear a lot about people leasing on with Prime, but I never hear about people just buying their own trucks and working as o/o's with Prime. So, you can do this, right?

Posted:  2 months, 2 weeks ago

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Why do some truckers try to avoid a 34-hour restart?

I should've clarified that I didn't mean taking the 34 at home, I meant just taking it wherever you're ended up.

Maybe, but probably not.

If you are going to be home for 34+ weekly and are young and energetic and can handle busting out 11/14 hour days 6 days a week, great - so long as your dispatch can actually arrange 525-600 mile days for you every day that you work.

I'd rather log 8:45 daily a couple of months and then have a sweet vacation than do 70/34 over and over

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Are you saying that if you take 34 hour resets, that takes away from your normal home time at the end of the month?

Posted:  2 months, 2 weeks ago

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Why do some truckers try to avoid a 34-hour restart?

What's the benefit of spreading your hours through the week? You'll get about the same amount of miles whether or not you take the reset, right?

Posted:  3 months ago

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CRST Exit Oppurtunities???

Not just that...i just wrote a long explanation and it froze.

I made the following figures up as an example.

Basically...if a truck costs $3000 per week in operation and has a revenue of $5000, the net revenue is $2000.

that same truck with only adding an additional driver cost could then generate $10,000 as a team with an operation cost of $4500. Thats a net revenue of $5500.

So by running team, the net revenue increased by $3500 per week.

The solo truck will make nothing for 4 to 5 days on home time. The team truck could be run solo if only one driver takes home time. And this does happen a lot

Prime has solo drivers but MOST lease ops (which is 75% of the company) run teams with spouses/partners or TNT train as team. Why? because training is great? In part, but teaming brings in Hi Val.loads and expedited which pays more.

You will notice a push for drivers to eventually train. Why? Its all about the benjamins. The TnT drivers are getting paid less than a full team, so prime is making even more money than i stated in the above scenario.

Think about it... one truck, one set of operation costs, that can run the miles of 2 trucks by adding only one additional driver pay without adding another truck payment, insurance, QC and safety equipment etc.

It makes sense when you understand the business.

That makes a lot of sense, I didn't even think about that

Posted:  3 months ago

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CRST Exit Oppurtunities???

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I'm just curious about their business model

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In this line of business the customer will almost always go with who can move the freight the cheapest. Many companies will specialize in things in order to seperate themselves from the pack. Some carriers do intermodal, some do heavy haul and some do JIT (Just in time)/priority. This Is just how CRST has chosen to try to capitalize on a portion of the market. From what I've heard they also have solo drivers but that's primarily dedicated accounts.

Oh I see, so it was just a way to carve out a name for themselves as the expedited freight company, that makes sense.

Posted:  3 months ago

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CRST Exit Oppurtunities???

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Austin asks...

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Can someone explain why CRST is mainly team-only? Wouldn't that hurt their bottom line, since it's turning a lot of applicants away? I don't get it.

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They run a lot of priority, expedited freight with demanding delivery times. A team truck can run from Port Elizabeth NJ to the left coast in less than 3 days, 2.5 if all goes well.

That type of freight commands a premium rate with a higher profit margin.

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I see what you're saying, but I figure they would still make more money offering non-expedited freight delivery in addition to expedited.

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There is always a but...

CRST is a very successful company with an operational and business model that works for them. If you don’t think “teaming” is your cup of tea, look at other options:

Paid CDL Training Programs

As a wanna-be driver, questioning the “why” of how the big carriers operates, is somewhat futile. Try to focus on this stuff...

Good luck!

I'm just curious about their business model, doesn't make a difference to me either way. I'm currently training with prime, thank you for the links though.

Posted:  3 months ago

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CRST Exit Oppurtunities???

Austin asks...

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Can someone explain why CRST is mainly team-only? Wouldn't that hurt their bottom line, since it's turning a lot of applicants away? I don't get it.

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They run a lot of priority, expedited freight with demanding delivery times. A team truck can run from Port Elizabeth NJ to the left coast in less than 3 days, 2.5 if all goes well.

That type of freight commands a premium rate with a higher profit margin.

I see what you're saying, but I figure they would still make more money offering non-expedited freight delivery in addition to expedited.

Posted:  3 months ago

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CRST Exit Oppurtunities???

Can someone explain why CRST is mainly team-only? Wouldn't that hurt their bottom line, since it's turning a lot of applicants away? I don't get it.

Posted:  3 months, 2 weeks ago

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ABF Freight is a great job - and they’re hiring!

These are the kinds of jobs I would think it would be worth it to work on having an auto restriction removed, yes?

I'm sure this is a stupid question, but why would a manual be better for these types of jobs?

Posted:  3 months, 2 weeks ago

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Prime CDL School, no passport?

You don't need a passport to start.

Oh ok thanks

Posted:  3 months, 2 weeks ago

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Prime CDL School, no passport?

I'm set to go to Prime's school on the 18th, and I read some people say that you must have a passport, but on their website it says you must have the *ability* to obtain a passport.

So, which is it? If I need to have a passport when I get there, but I don't, what will happen? Thanks for all your guys' help.

Posted:  3 months, 2 weeks ago

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Prime's additional .20 CPM for teams?

Well first don't assume a team is going to make 5000 miles every week. They'll have good weeks and bad weeks just like everybody else. 6k this week, 3k next, etc. Even on a bad week you still have to split the money with your co-driver.

I'm not telling you not to team. Sure, the potential is there to make some good money. But you have to look at it realistically. Weigh the pros and cons of living a team lifestyle.

Right. Maybe miles per month would be a better way to look at things as far as averages go.

Anyway, my dad and I have been talking about team driving for a while now, and trucking for at least a year will give us both a huge boost from our current financial situations. I totally see how team trucking could be a terrible experience (and it might just be) but we're willing to take that risk, and we could always split off into solo if we start hating each other.

Posted:  3 months, 2 weeks ago

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Prime's additional .20 CPM for teams?

That's legit, but not really a lot of money when you consider the hassles and inconveniences you'll encounter as a team driver. A good solo driver can make the same money, But hey if teaming is your thing, Prime is a great place for it.

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So, how common is it for a solo newbie to gross $1500 a week? From all the rookie horror stories about low pay, it seemed grossing about $75k in your first year was a pipe dream.

Posted:  3 months, 2 weeks ago

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Prime's additional .20 CPM for teams?

Hey, me here with another question about Prime lol. So Prime says they will pay an additional .20 CPM to teams (on top of .52 CPM) for each mile in over 3,000 miles per week. So that means if you drive 5,000 miles per week, you'll make $3,000 split per week? That sounds almost too good to be true, am I misinterpreting this?

Posted:  3 months, 3 weeks ago

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Switching from LW truck to condo at Prime?

You can do this. They will tell you if one isnt available you will be responsible for the hotel room...but usually one night tops and they dont usually charge you if you if you stay at their motel...which i never do frankly. I pay for a much much better place lol. But econolodge across the street does $66 per night for Prime drivers. Ive had 3 condos...the first two in springfield took only 1 night and i wasnt charged The second took a week as i was coming back from surgery because i was in the PA terminal coming back from surgery. That terminal only gets trucks when people quit or get fired.

Awesome, thank you for your answer!

Posted:  3 months, 3 weeks ago

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Why are the CPM rates different on these two links on Prime?

Https://www.primeinc.com/paid-apprenticeship-cdl-training

Solo Company Driver Rates Refrigerated 42 cents per mile Flatbed 44 cents per mile Tanker 49 cents per mile

https://www.primeinc.com/driving-divisions

Solo Company Driver Rates Refrigerated 44 cents per mile Flatbed 46 cents per mile Tanker 51 cents per mile

Is there a reason they list different CPM rates on these links?

Posted:  3 months, 3 weeks ago

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Switching from LW truck to condo at Prime?

I'm planning on joining Prime as a solo driver, then teaming up with my dad about 6 months down the road. After training, I want to do about 3 months of solo driving with a LW, then switch to condo when my dad joins me. Can I do this, or would I be stuck with a LW for a while?

Posted:  11 months, 1 week ago

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Will one MINOR accident prevent me from getting a trucking job?

A little over a year ago, I was pulling out of a parking lot at night, and my mirror hit someone's open door (she left her rear door open, and stepped away to talk to her friends). No one was injured, and the damage was a tiny dent on her door. Nonetheless, the cops were called and I now have that on my record. Will this shut me out from becoming a truck driver?

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