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Posted:  4 years, 8 months ago

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KLLM

Info or links on KLLM

Posted:  4 years, 8 months ago

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Tyson Foods

Thanks

Posted:  4 years, 8 months ago

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Tyson Foods

Any info on driving for Tyson Foods that anyone may know of. It’s not too much info or reviews on them for trucking

Posted:  4 years, 8 months ago

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Should a rookie driver become a lease operator?

Very understandable and makes a lot of sense. Thanks

I'll share one experience I had Gregory since it involved a certain company you mentioned when I was leasing.

That company had a contract with a certain customer where they hauled into and out of this customer. Was all drop/hook. Back then the company had 2 fleets paid percentage. They have since done away with the percentage pay program. Anyway I hauled a load into the customer. Easy enough. I had no preplan for my next load. I got to the gate and checked in. The security folks were very friendly and talkative. They asked me which load I was hauling out??? I told them I wasn't assigned one. They showed me the bills for 5 outbound loads and told me those were all over 24 hrs late being picked up. I had already spoken with dispatch about 5 hrs earlier asking what I was doing next. Security told me they had no empty trailers for me. They even showed me on their computer the loads and status. Like I said they were very talkative.

I contacted dispatch and was told I needed to grab an empty and head 230 miles to pickup a load that I already paid very poorly. I questioned them about the late loads and they immediately told me I was not eligible for those and wanted to know how I knew so much information. I told them there were no empty trailers at the location and it made no difference how I knew the information. As I was there a company truck bob tailed in to pickup 1 of the late loads. Needless to say I wasn't very happy. I did appreciate the dispatcher not lying to me though, which they could have done.

Moral to the story is lease op's are going to get loads that are less profitable to the company. That's not a conspiracy that's just business. And no I never threw the security guards under the bus. They did teach me a very valuable lesson that day and for that I will always be thankful.

Posted:  4 years, 8 months ago

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Should a rookie driver become a lease operator?

Good point

In addition to what the others have stated, I'll just add this for more perspective:

My cdl class at Prime started with 23 students. Of those, only 7 of us completed training. Of those, 3 chose the lease program, the rest of us went company.

ONLY US 4 COMPANY DRIVERS ARE LEFT!

All 3 lease ops were miserable their first year. They constantly haggled over low-paying loads, or spent days sitting idle because they didn't want to accept loads to bad freight areas. The constant struggle to make enough money to pay that lease payment left their entire rookie year experience a miserable one. They are all quitting now that their year contract is up.

As a company driver, I out-earned them all.

Us four company drivers remain happy, and plan to stay on with Prime.

Let that sink in...

Posted:  4 years, 8 months ago

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Should a rookie driver become a lease operator?

Yes it most definitely wasn’t a trucking company. That sounds a plan though for sure.

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I’ve made up my mind I’m starting out as a company driver to learn some things but I do have a few sources that I can use in the future.

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This is the best First Step - learn the business before you put your own skin into the game. Even having owned/ run your own business, I'm sure it wasn't a trucking business. Learn how it's done courtesy of a company that has learned how to do it.

Then lease your own truck. If you lease on to a larger company you will find, as described here, that the only difference between company driver and Lease Op is who owns the truck.

Posted:  4 years, 8 months ago

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Thanks a lot for the honest. I would lease through a company. I’m looking to go to KLLM. But I’ve made up my mind I’m starting out as a company driver to learn some things but I do have a few sources that I can use in the future.

Gregory my short answer is no way. First off are you thinking of leasing from a trucking company or a truck vendor??? There are alot of trucking companies offering leasing. Some are better than others, but none of them are in your best interest. I did it for a year with a major carrier. I paid all the bills and could only pull their freight. Which meant they dictated everything from where I went to how much I made. As long as your making enough to cover the bills they are happy. You may not be as happy. Also the pay rates differ on loads. Are you looking at a mileage rate or percentage?? Will you pull the company's trailers or not??? Will they charge you a trailer lease fee also??? Oh and maint. still has too be cleared through them each and every time because they are paying the vendor then recovering it out of your maint account or next settlement. I can go on about the money variables but I think you get the picture.

The only way I would ever be responsible for all the headaches and financial obligations on a truck would be to go buy one and run under my own authority which is not that hard to get. I have been approached to do that recently from a customer. Its a produce company, I know the folks well and since the ELD mandate hit they have been having trouble getting trucks. I actually sat down with them and ran some numbers. They were open and honest with the numbers and when we crunched it all out it left me making within a couple hundred a week of what I am making as a company driver. It doesn't make sense for me to do it. I told them they would be better off buying their own trucks or just keep outsourcing like they have been.

Too often people see the big numbers in this business and think wow. They don't stop to realize those big numbers are also going out the door. Fuel bill, maint costs, etc. I just had a fuel tank replaced. Just the tank was 1700.00. An exhaust piece under the truck with a couple bends and 1 sensor port in it, 1300.00 and this is the 2nd one in 2 years. So you can see these are not cheap. Those numbers were parts only not labor to install them.

Unless you have alot of knowledge about the industry and a large volume the profit is just not there in my opinion. I don't mean too rain on your parade just giving you my honest opinion from doing it.

Have a safe day

Posted:  4 years, 8 months ago

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Should a rookie driver become a lease operator?

WOW. That right there is enough alone lol

Gregory experience and knowledge is mandatory before ever considering L/O. There are a myriad of articles in the blog section that address the perils of leasing, especially for a rookie. Here is just one example:

Confessions of An Owner Operator

Posted:  4 years, 8 months ago

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Should a rookie driver become a lease operator?

Thanks a lot. I appreciate it. I’m up for the challenge but experience and knowledge is always good.

Get ready for it, but the short answer is no. As you may know from your previous experience, just because someone can run A business doesn’t mean they know enough to run ANY business.

You’re likely gonna get lots of responses and they’ll share links to great articles. Read and heed.

Good luck.

Posted:  4 years, 8 months ago

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Should a rookie driver become a lease operator?

Should a rookie driver start out as a lease operator or company driver? I’m trying to decide if I want to become a lease operator. I know how to run a business the ins and out but I’m trying to build a nice solid foundation to kick off my trucking career. I’m fine with starting out as a company driver that’s no big deal but knowing that I know how to run a business etc should I make that step or just take the time out to actually learn the industry.

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