Comments By Kal-el T.

I'm just going to go out on a limb that your story is credible for a minute.

How was she using it?

I honestly couldn't tell you. I never noticed any track marks and she has all of her teeth. So the obvious signs weren't there. She wasn't a tweeker either, there was no obvious signs other than she went from being sweet and quiet to suddenly constantly raging over the smallest of things, punching walls, punching glass with her bare fists, she even once stabbed a dresser over 100 times with a screw driver while talking to herself. That last part came after I had discovered she was on meth. The mood changes are what got me looking, trying to find out if she were on something. But I couldn't call her out on it until I had the evidence.

Only a few ways: snorting, drinking it, smoking it, shooting it IV. Of those ways, it's common to put it in water if you're drinking it, which is usually a last resort for people who have destroyed their nasal passages and can no longer snort it. If, by some chance, you grabbed a drink she had it in, possibly could have been in your system.

If I was indeed drugged by her in some way, I have no way of knowing how. I wish I could tell you how, but I cannot say since I don't know and she denies the accusation against her. Until my test results come back, I won't know for sure that she has drugged me until then. For all I know, when CR England tested me, it could have been a botched test. I'll find out soon enough; about 5 to 7 business days.

So basically, there's a very slim chance that you could have accidentally ingested some if conditions were just perfect. But even if that is the case, there's not much you can do, and it doesn't serve you will to insult the very group your asking advice from.

If I indeed do have meth in my system, I don't believe it was some accident. I am just open to all possibilities is all. If it is indeed in my system, then the most logical answer is that she literally drugged me in an attempt to not lose me. I have video of her going off the deep end, if you seen the video, you would understand that doing something like that is not only well within her capabilities, but also something she would attempt to do if she thought it would be a method of keeping me. I took out an EPO on her (Emergency Protective Order) because she has literally threatened my life, saying, "If I cannot have you, I'll be damned if I am going to let another woman have you." And then she went to one of our mutual friends (was mutual, our mutual friend is no longer friends with her because of this) and repeated that statement to her. I'm a big dude, she wouldn't stand a chance against me, but I can't stay awake all the time, nor am I all that good at dodging bullets. So yeah, she literally had me fearing for my life and my daughter's life.

Your last statement, I took quite a bit of insults from this community and I manned through it. So if I insulted anyone in return, all I can say is, don't dish out what you can't take? (not you specifically, just in general.) I'm not a punching bag, I won't just take it and then turn the other cheek.

If you take it a few steps down the line, say you got hired and this didn't come up, is this how you would respond when given advice you don't want to hear? If your trainer and instructors tell you you need to do things differently or better are they in the wrong? How will you handle criticism and stress of trucking? It doesn't bode well.

I have already been in training, and believe it or not, I was the guy telling this same very thing to a young guy who was getting pretty heated because our trainer was telling him how to drive. I take direction very well, what I don't take very well is disrespect. There is a huge difference. What doesn't bode well with me is being accused of something I didn't do, and then being told that I am in denial about it. I said earlier that I don't expect anyone to believe me (as my favorite poster pointed out) but that is not me giving people permission to berate me over it. I came here looking for help, not judges and executioners. This may be the Trucking Truth, but it also says that this website is, "The Most Friendly And Helpful Trucker's Forum Anywhere." Instead what I got is people attacking my character, telling me I am in denial and all that other dung. Great, don't believe me, their choice, but they sure aren't helping me by repeatedly telling me that they don't believe me and attempting to have me blackwalled from this web site. I didn't come here looking for trouble, but I'll be damned if I am just going to be all passive and let people dish out their garbage all over my face and not at very least come back with something a bit more intelligible yet holding my ground. I am not the one attacking people's character here. I'm not the one on the offensive, I have been on the defensive side of this. So maybe that question would fit better being asked to the people doing the attacking. Seems like a novel idea to me.

The trucking industry isn’t damning you over anything. Neither is CR England. Your story is simply to hard to believe. From what I am reading you could in theory ingest meth through oral sex or bodily fluids but not enough that would cause you to pass the threshold on a drug test. She wasn’t cooking meth in the house. So that leaves you with it being orally ingested since you didn’t snort it, smoke it, or inject it. Or you say the drug test was tainted by coincidence the same drug your wife uses. So what she laced your coffee or something? I dunno man. A lot of holes in this story.

You're right, there are indeed a lot of holes in my "story" because I don't have the answers. I am trying to get it figured out. I DO NOT use drugs, period. Nor have I ever used drugs. That is the ONE thing that I know for sure. I don't get high, I have no need to get high. I don't even know what it is like to get high other than what I have seen in movies and TV. I see how people act when they are high, they act like they are out of their damn minds and belong in a mental institute. I'm sorry that I am unable to give you a complete story that has no holes in it. Sadly, I cannot do that because I don't have all the facts, and chances are I never will have them all. If I was somehow low dosed, I will never even know that for a fact because the person that had the ability to do so, will never admit to that, in fact she would take it to her grave.

I get it, from your perspective I probably seem like I am full of it. However, if this had happened to you, you would most likely be doing the exact same thing I am. I just hope it never does happen to you, because if it ever does...God help you, nobody else will.

How so? I thought that hair follicle tests were for the exacting reason, to put a 'time stamp' on the drug use. (ie: if the client has been using over a period of time, even up to (and past) a year.) It would go back farther than three weeks, no?

The new test would also go back more than three weeks, but how would you know the drug use that showed up last time wasn't at the very end of how far back it could go? Three weeks later, the hair sample might no longer show drug use, but that couldn't rule out the possibility that it really was there last time.

The same could be said if I had taken another drug test as soon as I found out. It's a week later. So in one aspect you have 1 week later out of a year, the other way you have three weeks out of a year. Either way you have the same problem. I can't just lay back and let the trucking industry damn me over this. I have to try. I would rather try and fail than not try at all and wonder.

Even worse, now a certain individual wants to silence me when this website is only one of a very few places that I can hope to find somebody else who has already been through this and beat it.

That is not true. Not one bit.

Fact is you silenced me...you don’t care what I have to say about anything. I’m crushed...

So then why should I go out of my way to approve your posts?

Other mods obviously are so you have nothing to complain about.

I don't have the power nor the will to silence you. Fact of that matter is, you have been throwing shade on me from the very start, which is your prerogative, but don't sit there and expect me to care about what you say to me when every time I read anything from you, it is you constantly trying to diminish anything I say by attempting to constantly attack my character. You had your mind made up about me with your very first post. You set the stage between us, not me. I came here out of desperation and you kicked me when I was down. That's okay, I am a big guy and can handle it, but that sure doesn't mean that I am going to listen to somebody who constantly berates me. Probably best if you and I just don't talk. Nothing good will come out of it. Agree to disagree and let's move on from one another.

And I’m no expert but I can’t imagine you can get low key drugged with meth and be completely oblivious to it. And just have no symptoms at all from it.

Look, I don't know for a fact that I have been drugged. I don't know anything really. It could have just been a botched test, that is why I am getting tested again. At this point in time, I cannot prove anything which is what is making this so difficult and frustrating. If I indeed do have meth in my system though, or at least at one point had it in my system, then there is only one way that could have happened.

Now, to better answer your question more directly, no. I have never felt anything that gave me an idea that I had been drugged. I smoke cigarettes, so I know what addiction feels like, and I have never felt a need for something but couldn't figure out what it is. So obviously, *if*I was drugged, it wasn't enough to get me hooked. Also, if I was drugged, it wasn't enough to make me feel different. I am just reaching at straws, desperate to get to the bottom of why I failed that test, and until I get the results back from my drug test, I won't know for sure.

What I can say, is that the test at CR England went back a full year, well so does the one I just took today. If it turns out negative, my lawyer steps in and we file a lawsuit against CR England because they not only made it difficult to prove myself against the allegation, but they also outright discouraged it by telling me, "Even if we do, the results will just be the same, not to mention it will cost you 200 bucks out of pocket and either way it goes, you are being sent back home."

They told me that. Once I got home, I started making calls, doing research and am doing everything in my power to fight back against the impossible wall. If there is a way to climb this wall and prove my innocence, I will find that way. Just really hoping to talk with somebody who has been in this exact situation and finding out what they did to fix it. Out of the "thousands" of posts that has been made by people who have claimed they went through what I am currently going through, I am hoping there is at least one that was being truthful and that they reach out to me. I am desperate for help right now, because right now, it's hard enough to get anyone to believe me, much less help me.

Even if my ex did not use in the house, if a previous owner used in this home, the house would still be contaminated. Now, is it relevant? I don't know

Even if it comes back as there is residue in your home from prior drug use that won't clear your name. Many people do drugs in their own home so I highly doubt that test would even matter and is a complete waste of money.

If your ex wife is using illegal drugs you need to report it to her superiors. Patients are trusting her with their well-being and possibly life depending on what area she's in.

She's not working anymore as far as I know. She was one of those types of nurses who only worked when called to do a job. She's not in a hospital or even has a regular location that she goes to. Last I heard she is now living on the streets somewhere, bouncing around from house to house sleping wherever she can. She has went way downhill since I kicked her from the house. Right now, nobody even knows where she is and she isn't telling anyone where she is. I can't even know for sure what the last time she actually went to work is, since our last year together was nothing but one lie after the next from her. She worked hard to cover up her drug use.

By profession (before I started working on my CDL) I was an RF Specialist for Spectrum Communications. I worked long hours, so we didn't see much of each other, which made it that much easier for her to hide what she was doing. I also am working on my company that I am building called, Ecliptic Comics Publishing and on top of that I am also a Symphony Orchestra Composer, in which I have written music for a Disney affiliated ground called, "The Sith Dynasty." So I stay VERY busy even when I am not working. My busy lifestyle is what ultimately made it easier for me to be blind to things that might had otherwise been dead ringers. But again, she was good at hiding it.

And now this. So it is up to me to prove that I have not a drug user. Until then, nobody is going to believe me. It's like a witch hunt, being told to confess when I have done nothing wrong. Even worse, now a certain individual wants to silence me when this website is only one of a very few places that I can hope to find somebody else who has already been through this and beat it. Somebody who may know something that I have missed. I can't be the only person who has ever been through this. If it has happened to me, then it had to have happened to others.

It has been 3 weeks now since I was discharged from CR England.

Even if your new test comes back negative, too much time has passed for it to have any power of suggesting the previous one may have been inaccurate. If you are being honest, you've unfortunately waited too long to do anything about it.

I have been trying to do something about it since day one. According to my lawyer, if I take another test from my underarm, which dates back a full year and pass it, we have a case. My lawyer is awaiting my results.

Drug tests are not infallible. Get a repeat and talk to an attorney. Tests are very accurate. In the 90 percentile however anything from poor technique on the LCMS to a ****ty tech can skew results. On urine with the reagent tests being used there are things that can cause false positives which is why they reflex to LCMS for verification on these chain of custody tests. Coming into trucking now from another career. I know the issues pretty well with testing and there are some problems. Very few which doesn't work in your favor. It certainly is possible that something went wrong. Right now you are just in a ****ed position and going to have to fight.

That pretty much sums it up nicely. I'm fighting alright. Worst case scenario though is if I actually was drugged. If that is the case, the police told me that they would need a confession of guilt before they could do anything about that. So I am REALLY hoping it was just a botched positive reading than the alternative. I don't want to admit to myself that she could have done such a thing, but as of right now, all the evidence that I have points in that direction. I took the test at another lab and am awaiting results.

Earlier, somebody asked what I hope to gain here...what I am hoping to gain is finding somebody else who has been through what I am going through and hopefully they can give me advice that I have not already considered. It's been three weeks of this and I am mentally exhausted.

Kal-el the only way your house could be “infected” with meth is if there was a full blown meth lab in your house. No way you wouldn’t know that.

Information from the .gov site that I posted says otherwise. Even if my ex did not use in the house, if a previous owner used in this home, the house would still be contaminated. Now, is it relevant? I don't know. But at this point I am trying to learn everything I have. I can't fight this if I don't have the proper knowledge to do so. This whole thing is new to me, I have never had to care about such things before, so I am still learning and trying to understand how it was even possible for me to test positive for meth on a drug test. All that I know for 100% fact is that I have never used any drugs, not even weed. I take a lot of Advil for headaches, but outside of Advil, that's it.

So either I was drugged, or the test was contaminated. It is on me to prove that I don't do drugs. Nobody else is going to do that for me. If it were you who tested positive, I am sure you would do the same. It has been 3 weeks now since I was discharged from CR England. I won't quit until I prove my innocence. My future and my life depends on this as well as my honor.

Thank you... that is what I thought I said in “so many words” in my last reply.

Kal-el... Even if you test negative, then what?

Save your energy... you don’t need to reply.

Kal-el the only way your house could be “infected” with meth is if there was a full blown meth lab in your house. No way you wouldn’t know that.

Then I give that to my lawyer and I fight to clear my name. My honor is at stake here.