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  • Location:
    Wooster, OH

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    Experienced Driver

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    4 years, 9 months ago

Don's Bio

Ex-longtime Nurse now driving a Daycab hauling corrugated boxes in Ohio, plus PA, NY and IN.

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Posted:  2 months ago

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Paid CDL Training without Hair Follicle

"It's being tied to a desk that is driving me nuts."

Considering that truck driving involves being tied to a seat during the majority of a long day, you need to take this into consideration.

"Seeing this great Country of ours" is great, if you like seeing highways, city streets, dock areas, truck stops, etc.. At least, that is all I get to see due to the time crunch from getting my load delivered and getting back to base. lol

Your "stress" may be due to job burnout. I know after a long career in Nursing, the last couple of years really affected me physically and mentally. I didn't resort to drugs or alcohol for "stress relief," but I found a different career that matched my needs.

If you truly want to get into driving, you need to find different stress relievers. Drugs of any kind cannot be an option.

Posted:  2 months ago

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What to do?

Can you clarify what you meant when you stated "they lied (to you) about how much money you would be making? Are you referring to .cpm, weekly pay, what? As a mileage driver, there are variables to how much you will earn each week, many which depends on your performance. If you are referring to .cpm and accessorial pay, those numbers are usually provided in writing during your arrival to cdl training or to your new employer.

Posted:  2 months ago

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Why do they torture us this way?!!!

I don't know if athletes doing that is "common", but in regards to driving/drivers, that is extremely unlikely due to isolation and availability of others urine and the medical equipment to even attempt such nonsense.

What Travis was referring to is a common practice in sports to get urine from somebody who is 100% clean and then put a catheter up the “drain vein” and inject the clean urine into the bladder. Then the bogus urine is peed into the test container at the time of the monitored urine test.

I know, really gross. But it is mind boggling how far some people will go to cheat, not just with urine tests, but in life in general. Sad.

Posted:  2 months ago

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Why do they torture us this way?!!!

I don't know of any testing sites that allow you to bring in a urine sample. You produce a specimen there, and you don't leave until you do.; else, it 's considered a failed test

I guess if you actually pushed someone else's clean urine into your bladder it might push the metabolites down below whatever the cutoff levels are for a positive.

Would probably depend how dirty you were and how much of your own urine you produced between getting it in there and giving the sample.

Aside from using really old urine, if it was fresh from clean guy to you I didn't know how they'd detect that. It'd be at the right temp and whatnot 🤮

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I have heard about these methods, but frankly, can't see any scenario how any could possibly be effective in today's methods of collection. .

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I assume it's to cut down on people trying to trick the tests. Either a bag of pee or the super hardcore catheter and shoot clean pee in your bladder

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I never understood the reasoning behind not telling a driver they are having a random drug test done when they return to a terminal. If a driver has used illegal substances, it isn't possible to hide it. Our company always called us to tell us "you have to go get a random drug screen done when you get back." "Okay, will do." Then we go get it done.

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With advance notice, the person who is dirty will resort to a whole host of methods to try to beat it.

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Posted:  2 months ago

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Why do they torture us this way?!!!

No, Anne, I have never heard of ADS

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I never understood the reasoning behind not telling a driver they are having a random drug test done when they return to a terminal. If a driver has used illegal substances, it isn't possible to hide it. Our company always called us to tell us "you have to go get a random drug screen done when you get back." "Okay, will do." Then we go get it done.

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Yep,

That was a good thing.

Not like you or Tom had any concerns, but geez . . . nice to fit into your 'drive time/OdNd' .. clock!

I'm gonna miss Kim. And even Jim.

Off topic, ever hear of ADS up by you????? He's going for a UA and hair ... for there, soon.

~ Anne ~

Posted:  2 months ago

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Why do they torture us this way?!!!

I have heard about these methods, but frankly, can't see any scenario how any could possibly be effective in today's methods of collection. .

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I assume it's to cut down on people trying to trick the tests. Either a bag of pee or the super hardcore catheter and shoot clean pee in your bladder

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I never understood the reasoning behind not telling a driver they are having a random drug test done when they return to a terminal. If a driver has used illegal substances, it isn't possible to hide it. Our company always called us to tell us "you have to go get a random drug screen done when you get back." "Okay, will do." Then we go get it done.

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With advance notice, the person who is dirty will resort to a whole host of methods to try to beat it.

Posted:  2 months ago

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Why do they torture us this way?!!!

I never understood the reasoning behind not telling a driver they are having a random drug test done when they return to a terminal. If a driver has used illegal substances, it isn't possible to hide it. Our company always called us to tell us "you have to go get a random drug screen done when you get back." "Okay, will do." Then we go get it done.

Posted:  2 months, 1 week ago

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May need help moving on from Roehl

How much experience do you have in the trucking industry, again? The OP is more than welcome to not heed the advice of those with experience (some many years) and have gone through the same aggravating situations that pop up as a driver. Based on what the OP has told us, he has ZERO (as in NONE) chance of getting out of a contract that he signed. Roehl has broken no part of their contract. Just because a new grad is having a hissy fit because he has to adjust to changes in situations, doesn't give him grounds. Now, go back to your hair follicle studies.

You shouldn't take the advice of people on a this forum about whether you have grounds to break your contract or not. You can get a consultation with a lawyer who specializes in that area for $100, maybe less. I know there are lots of them on upwork

Posted:  2 months, 1 week ago

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May need help moving on from Roehl

"If for some reason things continue to not work out I'm going to request that my contract be rendered null and void due to the fact that Roehl is not enabling me to fulfill the terms of said contract and I will refuse to pay $7,000 for my GYCDL debt obligation."

Yeah, good luck with that. Go ahead and "refuse to pay your $7,000 obligation. Roehl will then refuse to give you your CDL school certificate, and good luck getting a job anywhere else without it. CDL or not, you have no experience and very unlikely that companies are going to hire you without that school/cdl training certificate. As Packrat stated, go to Dallas and get your truck. Roehl will no doubt route you back to get your other possession's.

Posted:  2 months, 2 weeks ago

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Professional driving behavior.

Is this sarcasm? If not, sunny weather or not, maybe they are driving 64.7 mph in a 70mph Maximum speed zone because they don't want to drive the maximum speed. 70 is the maximum, not the minimum. Just because fools want to be a danger out on the highways, doesn't mean everyone does. I assume you drive in the States? Are they supposed to drive faster than they are comfortable doing so in the RIGHT lane, just because you're impatient? No

What I find as bad is a car, which for no discernible reason, is going about 64.7 in the right lane when the limit is 70. Just enough it takes me forever goverened at 65 to pass them.

Why are you doing 64.7 on a sunny day, no mountains nor curves interstate? 🤔👎

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One thing I have learned here is to be professional and courteous on the road. There are so many drivers that don’t have a clue as to what that means.

For example, I often come up to a truck going slower than me. When it’s safe, I will pull out and start to pass. Then I see that the other truck has increased speed and is matching my speed. What are my choices? I can stay in the passing lane and irritate everybody who has come up behind me, or I can slow down to fall into the slow lane, further irritating those behind me who don’t realize what is going on. This is really no choice at all, I have to slow down and get into the right lane so as to not impede traffic. More often than not this type of situation is caused by what I call a “yo-yo driver”. This is a driver who has inconsistent speed for no reason at all. They seem to delight in going slow to require other trucks to pass and then speeding up to play some sort of stupid, sadistic game.

When I encounter this, I slow down so as to get away from such an unprofessional driver. Unfortunately, I might encounter him again up the road.

What’s my point? New drivers, learn to avoid bad habits like this. We, as drivers, have a responsibility to control traffic within our area of travel. Have situational awareness. Don’t get into turtle races. If there is another truck trying to pass you and they are just 1 MPH faster than you and there are vehicles behind them, reduce your speed enough to let the log jam clear. This is called profession courtesy. It seems like there are more and more drivers on the road who have no concept of this issue.

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Posted:  2 months, 2 weeks ago

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Hey Anna A.!

"ps: DON? Cali bound, or WST ?"

Hey Anne

I will be going with WST. I'll give it a whirl and see how it goes.

How about Tom?

Posted:  2 months, 2 weeks ago

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Surgical medications and drug screen

Yes, Fentanyl usually passes through in 24 -72 hours for a urine drug screen. The other 7 medications I received also should be cleared through by now. As I mentioned, I should be fine. I just always think worst case scenarios.

I had my surgery with anesthesia and Percocet. Safety told me it only stays in the system 24 to 48 hours and wouldn't show anyway. It didn't for my return to work physical/drug test

According to American Addiction Centers, Fentanyl shows up 24 to 72 hours in urine.. 3 months for hair and 5 to 72 hours in blood. (I think...double check the site).

Don't get hair tested 😂

Addiction Centers

Posted:  2 months, 2 weeks ago

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Surgical medications and drug screen

I had a surgical procedure done August 24. During the procedure, I received Fentanyl and 7 other medications. For my next employer, I am required to take a pre-employment urine drug screen. I asked the surgeon who performed my procedure to send me documentation of all medications I received during the procedure, and his office did so. I notified the Safety Dept at the new company about my surgery and medications received that day, plus I had documentation from the surgeon. Safety basically stated, "if the test comes back failed due to the Fentanyl, then send that letter from the surgeon to the MRO."

Has anyone taken a drug screen soon after having surgery that included analgesics being given? If so, what were you required to provide to the company?

I am certain all will be fine; just my thinking too much and being the Devil's advocate.

Posted:  3 months ago

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The “off duty creep”

I do the OD creep all the time, but only in our yard, drop lot or at Consigness. But, when I do, I make sure I am out of the way of others with plenty of space for them to go around. Saves big time on having to burn my drive time and getting my 30 min DOT break before that 8 hour drive time is gone. Keeps me moving in the day cab world.

Posted:  3 months ago

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Hey Anna A.!

I am confused. Since when does IP Mt. Vernon make boxes for Big Lots? Did IP Mt. Vernon get a contract to start making boxes for Big Lots?

If you can, feel free to send that WST hub pay pdf. to me @ dongoho624@outlook.com

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"There's also chatter that FAB is going to PULL all offers, and stay to 'play another day.' Trying to weed 'in' they loyals"

Anne, I don't see that happening. I assume IP has already signed contracts with WST, Truck One, etc., so how can FAB "pull all offers"?

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Hey Don;

In following up, that's the voices of Kendra and Jim, so take that with a grain, but .. hard telling. I'm thinking something is already in the 'falling through' end, down our way; I just haven't figured out what. Kendra thinks that FAB may hold on to some of the stuff for a bit longer; yet I'm not sure how that'd be possible, either. It's NOT Tom's destination.Truck One is a HOT MESS. For S's and G's, look at their website! vBulletin or something from the 80's, the Mark guy I spoke with even agreed; additionally, he had no clue WST was getting ANY 'I/P' accounts.

Further, have you spoken to Kris (Gordon, maybe?) at WST? I have; he sent me the .pdf re: their 'HUB' package, relevant to the FAB guys. It really doesn't look that bad!! Perhaps you were looking at the spotter's pay? I'm crunching some numbers with some paystubs/logs and would be happy to share the results. They indeed are extending reciprocity to the FAB drivers,re: vacation & benefits. Truck One (not!) on the other hand; unless I'm talking to the wrong person, has no clue, and is not. WST HUGELY extended their offer to Tom, and I thank you for letting me know, on that!

Again, we've got Karen at JRayl, and Cassie at Pitt Ohio, and of course (your) Kris at WST in the works; so many more. I'll sure share with you , as we research further.

Karen and Cassie have both run a prelim on Tom, and are extremely accommodating; Pitt Ohio has NO copay on insurance, and MACK TRUCKS, ATTRACTIVE! *haha!* but is STILL more of the LTL model, yet no pups & pintles for the ole'guy, haha!

HOPING our LTL guys will stick around, keep contributing, as we are NOT done... we've got a couple months...! JRayl is more regional/mini OTR but still home daily/off weekends; probably less work for the old guy, too! Great people, Don. I've got Karen's # straight away, too.

BACK to Crossett ~ We DO have a phocon set up with those folks on Thursday (Andhe78!) ... to confirm a few things; including the pretty great pay, haha...!~because Tom's flipping out looking at the NY tri axles w/a tag, and.. well, I guess it's more MELLOW here in Ohio, haha! Nothing that eccentric. We shall let you know. Andhe78!... I forgot.. for Don's benefit, do we need TWIC? Tom does need to re'up his HazMat tho; Pitt Ohio said that, too.

Don, if you have your tanker endorsement, and want some adventure; I'd say you DO have enough experience to 'go for it!' The pay IS better than FAB, I'll give ya that.

I'm so grateful to ALL that are inputting to this thread, and elsewhere. Again, email in profile; and I'm NOT the best on getting back in 5 mins; just ask me for my (or Tom's) ph# in email...for faster transfer of info. Thanks TONS, y'all.

Don....I still wish this really WOULD go away. Truck One, I could see THAT happen. WST, doubt it; they're making out great. Something is still under the rug, I've not found yet. (And, I will~!)

~ Anne ~

ps: I've got the 'hub pay' .pdf to email if you like, Don, as well as the shuttle.

pps: No, I've not slept much. Sorry.

Posted:  3 months ago

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Hey Anna A.!

Anne:

No,the pay sheet I am referring to is for the Wooster drivers and not spotters pay. I spoke to Brian in Columbus about their pay scale for Wooster drivers. I have calculated the pay differences between FAB and WST and if based on mileage rate and range pay only, WST comes out ahead. But, when FAB's Daily pay, and bobtail to D&S pay is added, not to.mention unload pay, FAB is definitely better.

Who is Kendra? Agaon, I have serious doubts that FAB can just change theirvminds and wsltz right back into the game at IP. Again, IP has (I would assume) signed contracts with WST, Truck One, etc., so it would be too late fir FAB to return. But, if Jim B is telling you something different, then definitely keep me advised.

Posted:  3 months ago

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California Dreamin'?

I am just asking for future consideration, but for anyone based out of California or is there all the time, what is the industry there like for a driver? Pro's, con's, particular regulations pertaining to, etc, for Cali?

Posted:  3 months ago

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Lowering landing gear at stops

No consignee has ever asked - nor have I ever lowered - the landing gear while attached, and getting unloaded.

Posted:  3 months ago

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Hey Anna A.!

"There's also chatter that FAB is going to PULL all offers, and stay to 'play another day.' Trying to weed 'in' they loyals"

Anne, I don't see that happening. I assume IP has already signed contracts with WST, Truck One, etc., so how can FAB "pull all offers"?

Posted:  3 months ago

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Hey Anna A.!

I have seen Truck One delivering in Buffalo, but don't know much about them. I need to talk with WST tomorrow to get some clarification about their accessory pay, but overall, their package looks to definitely compensate less overall than FAB.

I find it odd that International Paper is going with various trucking companies for their locations, rather than using one company as with FAB. This will no doubt reduce running loads since we wouldn't be pulling from Mt. Vernon, Streetsboro and other plants. If Wooster drivers pull only from Wooster IP, that could mean less runs per day = less $$. I'll wait and see and check around more companies here in Wooster, also. Hope all works out for you and Tom.

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What did Tom think of Westsides "pay package," (or is someone rise pulling out of Mt. Vernon)? Comparing runs using FAB's current mileage and accessorial pay extras, and Westside's, we are taking a pay cut for each load ran, not to mention eliminating our daily pay. No unload or D&H pay is a big loss, also. Drivers in Wooster are upset, but "whatcha gonna' do?" I will talk to Brian in Westside Columbus next week, before I consider other options. It's a shame FAB is closing down. I really enjoyed working for J.B. and FAB.

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Hey, Don!

WST is NOT taking over Tom's barn! Truck One is, and they SUCK. If you email me (in profile) I'll give you my phone number again, or his or both, but....

I did call WST and yeah, their pay package doesn't stand out to me, either. They DID say they'd be willing to take Tom, however. Hmmm. Truck One is $24/hr. flat; and because they are not getting YOU guys, and they won't tell me or Tom what lanes/stops they ARE getting; there sure won't be much, but a few stops, and maybe a 40 hour work week. No overtime, either.

I've been in talks with JRayl (you should check them out! ) and speaking with Karen Murphy over there, it's looking good. Ask for her, and mention TT; you'll get the 'good scoop.' They're even closer TO you!

I'm also speaking to PittOhio .. but that's an iffy one for Tom's liking; he's not done LTL for YEARS! Bulk Transport (tanks) is another 'maybe,' but are a bit far.

So, in a nutshell, JRayl is looking better every day. They are also a training company, and will be partnering with Trucking Truth! The local isn't set up as 'precisely' as FAB, but it still looks attainable to meet and exceed where we were before. Yes, they DO have local. I've got a list of the lanes.

I hope this helps; I'll keep you in the loop, though! MAST trucking (who recently partnered here, too!) is another option for YOU, we however, are too far. If you call them, speak to Jenna or Mark. Great folks, as well.

Wish you well in your decision, WST sure sounds better than what Truck One has to offer.

On another note, Tom got a Level III on i71 yesterday; passed with flying colors! He texted the paper, I texted it to Kim, and she was jumping for joy! Sure, Tom gets that $300 bonus, but we all know Kim gets that $1K, LoL!

We shall keep on keeping on, as things allow. Some of the guys down by Tom have already left, so there's no shortage of runs around here, that's for sure! Weekend work available (of course,) as well.

Take a look at JRayl, maybe even MAST; you may be close enough to them.

Best to ya, let us know!

~ Anne & Tom ~

ps: also talking to a 'nearby' small biz guy, but.. probably a 'nope.' Silvertip Transportation Services.. ?!?

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