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    Cincinnati, OH

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    4 years, 6 months ago

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Posted:  2 years, 7 months ago

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Husband Wife Team Driving Help!

Hi Mark. I'll try to answer your questions the best I can. Please forgive if I miss one or the answer I give isn't helpful enough for you. As far as training goes, we went to a private school in the Cincinnati area in order to get our CDLs. It was a five week class, M-F. They also have a weekend class, which is much longer in duration due to only two days a week of training. Some of the students in our class were there with the help of government programs to help with the cost of the training. I'm sure most states have something like that depending on your eligibility. Also, there are trucking companies (like Swift, Prime, CR England, etc.) that will hire you and train you to get your CDL. You are working for the company, getting paid, and getting trained at the same time.

Back to our CDL training, we had two weeks classroom and three weeks road/backing training.

Yes I have seen retiree teams. Team driving is an interesting animal. With two drivers, the truck can move more, thereby getting more miles. Since you get paid by the mile, more miles equals more money. However, depending on the company's pay structure, the money the truck generates either gets split between the drivers, or is paid based on how many miles each driver drives. Knowing that each individual driver is limited by hours of service, speed limits, speed governors on the truck, etc, there are only so many miles a single driver can drive. With all of this info a lot of the time each driver on the team is not taking home any more money than they could earn as a solo driver. Not to mention the headache of living 24/7 with another person in a small area. With a husband/wife team, all of the money the truck generates goes into the same bank account. There are many more pros and cons to team driving. Most drivers seem to prefer going solo, but there are plenty of teams out there that are happy and making good money.

At Covenant, team hazmat drivers make 40 cpm once out of training, with a 2 cpm quarterly safety/performance bonus (if you qualify for the bonus, they add up the miles you drove in that quarter and pay you 2 cpm for all of those miles as a one time payout).

As far as yearly income, there are a lot of factors that influence that. Say you are making 40 cpm, work 42 weeks per year, and average (conservatively) 5,000 miles per week (as a team), you could see $84,000 for the truck for a year. But there are always things that affect that number - detention pay, breakdown pay, bonuses, breakdowns, slow periods of freight, delays at shippers/receivers.

As far as part time opportunities, I don't know. I'm sure there may be some out there but I can't answere that from personal experience or knowledge.

Refusing runs - each company has their own way of dispatching loads and time off requests. You would have to talk to the individual companies you are looking into. At Covenant you get one day off for every six days out on the road. They are primarily a team trucking company so they expect you to be out running and running hard. There are solo opportunities at Covenant, but primarily team driving. Other companies have different schedules and earned time off programs so, again, you would have to check with the individual companies you are looking into. One word of advice, refusing loads is not the best way to become a driver the dispatchers or companies want to help succeed.

It seems that any company that has team trucks likes husband/wife teams. Covenant loves them I know from experience. There seems to be more stability within the team when they are husband/wife. There is usually a same-goal mentality, and they are used to working together making a life together. And believe me, team driving is a life together with another person. It is a lifestyle change. Very different than anything I've done before.

As far as the best company to drive for, it depends on what you are looking for. The best company is the one that meets or exceeds your expectations or needs. There are plenty of companies that are bad-mouthed, but have plenty of happy and successful drivers driving for them. There are so many opportunities out there, you just have to check them out and see which ones suit your needs.

Hope this helped you some Mark. Let me know if I can provide any more assistance/info. There are plenty of members here at TT that have much more experience and knowledge than I do, so read as much as you can here on the site. You will learn so much from them.

Posted:  2 years, 9 months ago

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Company hiring team with little experience

Posted:  3 years ago

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That first year

Congrats Scott on the one year down and accident free to boot. No DOT inspections? Nice!!! We are going to start on our first solo load this week. Any advice, especially in HOS land, for a newbie team (of course, don't hit anything is #1 on the list)? Thanks in advance.

Posted:  3 years ago

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Passed My CDL!!!

Way to go one and done! Be safe! You going OTR, local, line haul? Best of luck.

Posted:  3 years ago

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Graduated Friday and Passed CDL A Test on Saturday.

Congrats Bob on your "one and done." Huge feeling of relief? Get ready for some more struggles and hurdles out on the road lol. You going OTR, local, line haul? Best of luck and be safe.

Posted:  3 years ago

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Husband Wife Team Driving Help!

Well, I'll try this again. I was working on about a 500 word response when I must have hit the mouse pad on the laptop by accident. I got a tone from the laptop and my post was gone. Wonder where it went lol? Anyway, Jetguy, your idea sounds great if the company is willing to pony up for the hotel every day. Covenant was willing to put us, as trainees, in a hotel if we were not under a load. But quite honestly that was rare. As a team truck we were almost constantly in motion. Our runs averaged 2000 miles. (The first week out we drove over 6000 miles). Also, if we were going to be idle for less than 8 to 10 hours we just stayed on the truck - too much hassle and not enough benefit for that short of a period of time. We did do it at least twice when we each needed a 34 hr reset, or rather didn't want to run recaps because the amount of time coming back would have been too little to be beneficial for a long run in a tight window.

My wife and I split the day into two 12 hr shifts. She took the 2pm to 2am shift, I took 2am to 2 pm. That way we never ran out of our 14 hour clock and while one was on duty, the other was sleeping and getting their ten hour break in. Also that kept us on a schedule that we could get our bodies used to, right? Works good in theory lol. Inevitably when it was shower or laundry time, somebody's sleep got shorted as we couldn't get it to work out right to do that at "shift change" all the time. Also it took a few weeks before we could sleep through fuel stops, weigh station stops, etc. It seemed that any time the truck slowed dramatically or stopped, the "sleeper" would wake up. Now, being on home time, staying on/getting back on those schedules is proving to be a task lol.

We have lots of info to share about our experience in training with Covenant. It would probably be best to have questions to answer so I don't just ramble on. It might also be good to share the info in here as there isn't a lot about Covenant experiences on this site. But, I would also answer PMs if anyone preferred to ask questions that way. Wish us luck as we are about to embark on this journey without the luxury of an 18 year vet next to us to answer questions or offer guidance sitting right next to us. That is, of course, if our truck is ever ready to go out. That is another novel in and of itself. Hopefully we can meet some of the Trucking Truth folks out on the road. Hey Brett, ever think of having a Trucking Truth sticker to put on, say, the pass side window or pass side of the cab to let us know out there who is a "member" of the site?

Talk to you all later. Be safe. Scott and Maggie

Posted:  3 years ago

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Husband Wife Team Driving Help!

It's been a while since I've been on the computer so I haven't been intentionally ignoring this thread. We just got home from our training with Covenant Transport. My wife and I trained together in the same truck. Trainer had the patience of a saint! We were out on the road in the truck for over six weeks, then back to the terminal for a couple of days to finish and "upgrade". We are now officially company drivers - on our own. Exciting and scary at the same time. Husband and wife teams just starting out - Covenant worked for us and I believe that the company likes husband/wife teams. I can post more later if anyone is still interested in hearing about the/our experience. Will be happy to answer specific questions if you have any.

Posted:  3 years ago

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Extended "home time" after being out long periods of time?

Chris, my wife and I just finished up our team training at Covenant Transport. At Covenant we earn one day of home time for every 6 days out on the road/available for dispatch. We were out on the road for 7 weeks so we have 7 days off. I did inquire about staying out for a few more weeks on our own and adding those earned days off to the 7 we have earned to this point but was told that the company probably would cap the time off at 7 days. We would have still earned time off for every six days out but we would have to take them at another time. As mentioned earlier in this thread, the company has money wrapped up in their equipment, and the company is losing money if their truck is sitting somewhere not moving the freight that earns them money. I was also advised that after proving ourselves (running hard, safe, no lates, etc.) maybe we could have some time off longer than 7 days (without having to turn the truck in and getting a different one when we came back) - but that would be a case by case basis and very subjective in evaluation.

Posted:  3 years, 1 month ago

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Mandatory shutdown

Covenant does mandatory shut downs

Posted:  3 years, 2 months ago

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Husband Wife Team Driving Help!

Really quick, we are at Covenant getting ready to hit the road with our trainer. Covenant really likes husband/wife teams. Even though I said before we were told Schneider trains teams together, when we had our phone interview with them we triple checked and were then told they would not train us in the same truck at the same time. Anyway, so far here at Covenant we have been treated well and are looking forward to getting out on the road. We can update as we go if you would like.

Posted:  3 years, 3 months ago

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OTR TEAM

Sorry, I should clarify my earlier response - those three companies will train husband/wife teams on the same truck. Teams that are not husband/wife should contact the companies for information on the training together. My apologies for the not thorough response earlier.

Posted:  3 years, 3 months ago

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OTR TEAM

Are you looking to train together on the same truck? Covenant, Werner, Schneider will train teams together. Other companies will send you out on different trucks, then when done with your training hours, will get you back together and send you out as a team.

Posted:  3 years, 3 months ago

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Trucker Paralyzed By Accident While Unhitching Trailer

Thanks for the response Raz. The low experience time for a trainer sounds a little disconcerting.

Posted:  3 years, 3 months ago

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Trucker Paralyzed By Accident While Unhitching Trailer

Hey Miracle, we are looking seriously at Werner and their team training program. How do you like Werner? Do you know anything first-hand about that program? Do you know anything second-hand about that program? Thanks in advance.

Scott and Maggie

Posted:  3 years, 4 months ago

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Ohio temp permit laws

Hey Doug, my wife and I are in CDL school in Hamilton, OH. When you go to take your "written" test for your permit, you go to the BMV testing station in your county (or your area if you are closer to a testing station in another county). You have to pass the General Knowledge test before you can take any others. After passing General Knowledge you take Air Brakes. After passing Air Brakes you then take Combination Vehicles. After passing all three you can take the other endorsement tests (tankers, doubles/triples, HazMat. You can even take school bus and passenger if you want). The BMV has your pass/fail results in the computer. Make sure to request a print out of what tests you have passed if they don't automatically give it to you, for your records. Of course you only need to have passed GK, AB, and Combos to get your permit.

Now let's say you pass every test except one of the endorsements (we'll use Tankers for example). You can still go get your temps, or plastic as they are referred to around here. You just go to the section of the BMV that issues the license (it looks just like your Operator's license but says "Temp Instr Permit ID" up top), pay your money and get going. Do not "turn in" your Operator's license though - you still need that.

Now let's say you take and pass that elusive tanker test, if you go back to the BMV license place and want that added to your Temp permit, you will have to pay again for the license (what a racket), as they add the endorsement/update your license and have to print you out another one. But, if you pass the tanker test BEFORE you go to the license place and get your temps, you only pay once (you have some time after you pass the tests to actually go get your temps).

So now let's say you paid for your temps and then go and pass the last elusive endorsement test but don't want to pay another $27 to add that endorsement to your temps. No worries. When you pass the pre-trip, maneuvers, and road test you have to go pay the state again for your official CDL-A, so then the last endorsement will be put on your license at that time.

Clear as mud?

So, you pay every time you get your license. However, each "written" test is free to take. I say "written" because they are actually done on a computer. And it's pretty cool because you get instant feedback on each question - it tells you whether your answer was correct or wrong. If wrong it tells you what the correct answer was. It also keeps a count on how many you have correct and wrong so you know how close you are to passing or failing. And once you have answered enough questions to pass, the test is over.

I hope this helps. You may have already known all of this. If so, sorry. Just wanted to share because we just went through this in the same state (hope I didn't come across as a know-it-all).

Posted:  3 years, 4 months ago

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Four Killed After Semi Crashes Into College Softball Team's Bus

And so many people have posted here about wanting to fight for their "right" to use marijuana.....

Posted:  3 years, 4 months ago

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Husband Wife Team Driving Help!

No new info, sorry. Had to put the process on hold for a few weeks - my mother (with whom we were staying) passed away very suddenly and unexpectedly on Fri Oct 30. The school we are at was very understanding and advised us to come back when we are ready to complete the course and they will reschedule our tests when we're back up to speed. If I may pontificate to anyone reading this, loved ones can leave us in a heartbeat - make sure your loved ones know how much you love them - you may not get another chance. When we're back up and running we'll fill you in on what more we find out. If you find out any info, especially if it's contrary to what we've heard so far, please let us know as well. Thanks

Posted:  3 years, 4 months ago

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Husband Wife Team Driving Help!

Ok, spoke with Schneider and, according to the recruiter, they do train teams together. A very short training period though. He said eighteen straight days of training total including orientation, paperwork, simulator training, etc. Maybe only 8-10 days on the road. Trainer stays in hotel at night (unless he doesn't want to leave his truck in your hands overnight while he is in the hotel), trainer is not part of the team (not bunked out while newbies are driving). Recruiter said we would train out of Indianapolis (assuming because we are in Cincinnati). They have a dedicated run for Amazon out of northern Kentucky to MD and NJ that they are currently hiring teams for. OTR has a sign-on bonus, the Amazon account does not.

We are pre-hired at Werner at the moment, applying to Schneider this week. Will relay any more info if I get it.

Posted:  3 years, 4 months ago

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Red light? What red light???

Isn't that a red light camera on top of it?

Posted:  3 years, 4 months ago

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Owning your mistakes

Just get a large, Farva.

I don't want a large Farva, I want a liter of cola.

Do we have liter-a-cola?

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