I Want To Pull A Set Of Doubles! (curious)

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Area51trucking's Comment
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Hello everyone,

I am almost a year in driving. My question is what companies out there have accounts that pull doubles? I have seen other companies like crst that have pulled yrc doubles or werner pulling abf etc. How can I get on one of these accounts? I'm not expecting doubles to be easy or less challenging than a 53 footer. I'm interested that's all! Any feedback is appreciated.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

6 string rhythm's Comment
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I'm a linehaul driver for Old Dominion and pull doubles almost exclusively. Any questions you have in regard to pulling doubles, feel free to ask!

As far as truckload companies that pull for LTL companies, I can't help you there. If you were interested, you might be able to just work for an LTL company - if they're in you're area. That way you could be earning LTL wages while pulling those doubles. smile.gif

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Area51trucking's Comment
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As far as truckload companies that pull for LTL companies, I can't help you there. If you were interested, you might be able to just work for an LTL company - if they're in you're area. That way you could be earning LTL wages while pulling those doubles.

Thanks for responding! Truckload or ltl (doesn't matter) I am interested. I'm not far from Memphis, TN. Ltl companies are moving through there everyday. Southeastern, Con-way, Old Dominion etc. I have all my endorsements if that's needed.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
RebelliousVamp 's Comment
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I would assume that when you pull doubles , you never have to back up, correct? How does that work when you need to park for the night?

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

Susan D. 's Comment
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Park for the night? Lol girl. They're in day cabs running routes and home each day. On rare overnights they hotel it.

Day Cab:

A tractor which does not have a sleeper berth attached to it. Normally used for local routes where drivers go home every night.

Area51trucking's Comment
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From experience, I've seen doubles back before (Ups). It took a lot of pull ups! I talked to a Fed Ex driver once and he said that you always look for a spot to pull through and to park where it's easy to exit a truck stop. Not sure how parking for the night works. I see doubles parked at hotels most of the time. I guess the company pays for that? I'm sure 6 string knows.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

Scott O.'s Comment
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The doubles for crst is a dedicated account for yrc... And as long as you and a co driver can run good together you can get that account... Crst is looking for people with doubles endorsement for that account...

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

6 string rhythm's Comment
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As far as truckload companies that pull for LTL companies, I can't help you there. If you were interested, you might be able to just work for an LTL company - if they're in you're area. That way you could be earning LTL wages while pulling those doubles.

Thanks for responding! Truckload or ltl (doesn't matter) I am interested. I'm not far from Memphis, TN. Ltl companies are moving through there everyday. Southeastern, Con-way, Old Dominion etc. I have all my endorsements if that's needed.

You should definitely research the difference between truckload and LTL, if you haven't already. Your answer makes me think you're not familiar with the differences between truckload and LTL. Because the typical truckload and LTL operation is so different, usually people have a very specific idea of which one they'd like to work for. Having said that, not everybody has an LTL opportunity available to them, be it because of their lack of qualification or simply living in an area that doesn't have LTL terminals.

Some drivers choose truckload or OTR even if they have LTL options. It's not all about the money and hometime for some drivers. A lot of drivers prefer OTR for the lifestyle and equipment - the adventure.

But if you're solely interested in trucking as a job you'd enjoy while maximizing your hometime and income, it's hard to beat LTL jobs, especially linehaul.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

6 string rhythm's Comment
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From experience, I've seen doubles back before (Ups). It took a lot of pull ups! I talked to a Fed Ex driver once and he said that you always look for a spot to pull through and to park where it's easy to exit a truck stop. Not sure how parking for the night works. I see doubles parked at hotels most of the time. I guess the company pays for that? I'm sure 6 string knows.

Yes, you technically can back up doubles, but usually it's only to prove a point or show off. smile.gif

It's such a tedious task, and has to be done so slowly, that it's really not worth the time. You always park where you can pull out. For this reason, I usually avoid high traffic truck stops, simply because I don't want to get parked in or trapped. Some drivers simply think you can just back a set up as quickly or easily as a van, tank, or flatbed.

As Sue mentioned, most linehaul drivers are home every day. P&D drivers are most definitely home every day. Unless you're teaming, linehaul drivers drive day cabs. If a linehaul driver has to overnight for a day or so, they're put up in a hotel by the company. When you're at a hotel, you're bobtailing. The hotels are close to the terminals, and since linehaulers are going terminal to terminal, the trailers are dropped at the terminal and then the driver is bedding down at the nearby hotel. Rarely will a linehaul driver park the entire rig at a hotel.

It's a wonderful life if you have to be on the road - your own hotel room, shower, toilet, etc... Linehaul drivers don't deal with shippers / receivers, have a camaraderie with other linehaul buddies, pretty much all drops and hooks - we're spoiled. Eventually you know all the terminals or meet points, so there really isn't much trip planning involved. That's not even mentioning the money.

It can take some seniority until a linehaul driver can get a run that's home daily - this amount of time will vary from terminal to terminal. I had to "bag out" or overnight for about 2 months until I got home daily. Even when I was bagging out, I only stayed out for a few days out of a week, and was always home for my same two days off every week.

If you're interested in more about LTL or linehaul, check out my thread where I detailed my first year or so on the job.

LTL Trucking: My Linehaul Job

Bobtail:

"Bobtailing" means you are driving a tractor without a trailer attached.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

Day Cab:

A tractor which does not have a sleeper berth attached to it. Normally used for local routes where drivers go home every night.

P&D:

Pickup & Delivery

Local drivers that stay around their area, usually within 100 mile radius of a terminal, picking up and delivering loads.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers for instance will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

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