Werner Vs CRST

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B_Dawg's Comment
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Well, I have no personal experience with CRST but I began my career with Werner right out of CDL school. My time with them was brief, but I feel they are a solid company. Everything that was told to me up front is how things were when I got there. As long as you do your part, they will do theirs. They don't micromanage as long as you do what is asked and make your deliveries on time. I would go with them again as well as recommend them to new drivers.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
JD's Comment
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I drive for Werner I can tell you this if you manage you clock efficiently you can run 4,000 plus miles a week because I do it almost weekly. I'll admit my average is 3,800 miles. But I like Werner very much took them awhile to learn to trust me but my dispatcher now knows he can trust me safety on the other hand is always on me but I understand that. It takes awhile for them to believe I can handle their truck without getting them into a lawsuit. If you choose to go with Werner you won't be sorry their a good company with top equipment and always have loaded trailers anywhere in the country.

Now I have a question for the mods and the rest of you experienced drivers. I have been ask by some friends that I have road raced with for over 20 years to drive their hauler to mid Ohio early next month they have always helped me race honestly I couldn't have done it without them. Their normal driver has had his Cdl suspended for medical reasons so their in a jam that I could help resolve but I need to take 11 days off to do it and could cost me my job. What you you guys do?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Cwc's Comment
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I drive for Werner I can tell you this if you manage you clock efficiently you can run 4,000 plus miles a week because I do it almost weekly. I'll admit my average is 3,800 miles. But I like Werner very much took them awhile to learn to trust me but my dispatcher now knows he can trust me safety on the other hand is always on me but I understand that. It takes awhile for them to believe I can handle their truck without getting them into a lawsuit. If you choose to go with Werner you won't be sorry their a good company with top equipment and always have loaded trailers anywhere in the country.

Now I have a question for the mods and the rest of you experienced drivers. I have been ask by some friends that I have road raced with for over 20 years to drive their hauler to mid Ohio early next month they have always helped me race honestly I couldn't have done it without them. Their normal driver has had his Cdl suspended for medical reasons so their in a jam that I could help resolve but I need to take 11 days off to do it and could cost me my job. What you you guys do?

I don't mean to pry but what do you make a mile? I ask because you seem proud of the 4k miles a week? And that is ok but do you "need" to run that a week? And is it sustainable?

I used to run pretty hard when I started then I found more cpm and less stress.

Aside from that you pretty much made it sound like your risking your job for a bro favor. Asking advice is kinda pointless. So you either stay out 11weeks to drag someone's toy temporarily and risk your job or they find someone else?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

JD's Comment
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I drive for Werner I can tell you this if you manage you clock efficiently you can run 4,000 plus miles a week because I do it almost weekly. I'll admit my average is 3,800 miles. But I like Werner very much took them awhile to learn to trust me but my dispatcher now knows he can trust me safety on the other hand is always on me but I understand that. It takes awhile for them to believe I can handle their truck without getting them into a lawsuit. If you choose to go with Werner you won't be sorry their a good company with top equipment and always have loaded trailers anywhere in the country.

Now I have a question for the mods and the rest of you experienced drivers. I have been ask by some friends that I have road raced with for over 20 years to drive their hauler to mid Ohio early next month they have always helped me race honestly I couldn't have done it without them. Their normal driver has had his Cdl suspended for medical reasons so their in a jam that I could help resolve but I need to take 11 days off to do it and could cost me my job. What you you guys do?

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I don't mean to pry but what do you make a mile? I ask because you seem proud of the 4k miles a week? And that is ok but do you "need" to run that a week? And is it sustainable?

I used to run pretty hard when I started then I found more cpm and less stress.

Aside from that you pretty much made it sound like your risking your job for a bro favor. Asking advice is kinda pointless. So you either stay out 11weeks to drag someone's toy temporarily and risk your job or they find someone else?

I've been with them for a year. I make 41 cents a mile only, but that's my nature to go full bore in anything I do. I have earned their bounty bonus almost every week. The money I make doesn't matter to me I've made money enough to play with race cars and take care of my responsibilities as a father to 3 children and 3 beautiful granddaughters I'm out here just having fun and seeing what I can do driving a truck again after a long time achieving goals in other endeavors. I sold my contacts from my former business because of medical reasons and wanted to drive trucks again I loved doing it when I was 16 and I love it now except for the e-logs. But that is part of it and I work them down to the minute most days I like the challenge they present. I've won 6 championships in road racing in Florida and as with most everything I couldn't have done it without these guys that are asking me to now help them now. Maybe I shouldn't have posted this maybe I'm just asking for justification of what I'm going to do anyway

JD

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Cwc's Comment
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I drive for Werner I can tell you this if you manage you clock efficiently you can run 4,000 plus miles a week because I do it almost weekly. I'll admit my average is 3,800 miles. But I like Werner very much took them awhile to learn to trust me but my dispatcher now knows he can trust me safety on the other hand is always on me but I understand that. It takes awhile for them to believe I can handle their truck without getting them into a lawsuit. If you choose to go with Werner you won't be sorry their a good company with top equipment and always have loaded trailers anywhere in the country.

Now I have a question for the mods and the rest of you experienced drivers. I have been ask by some friends that I have road raced with for over 20 years to drive their hauler to mid Ohio early next month they have always helped me race honestly I couldn't have done it without them. Their normal driver has had his Cdl suspended for medical reasons so their in a jam that I could help resolve but I need to take 11 days off to do it and could cost me my job. What you you guys do?

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I don't mean to pry but what do you make a mile? I ask because you seem proud of the 4k miles a week? And that is ok but do you "need" to run that a week? And is it sustainable?

I used to run pretty hard when I started then I found more cpm and less stress.

Aside from that you pretty much made it sound like your risking your job for a bro favor. Asking advice is kinda pointless. So you either stay out 11weeks to drag someone's toy temporarily and risk your job or they find someone else?

I've been with them for a year. I make 41 cents a mile only, but that's my nature to go full bore in anything I do. I have earned their bounty bonus almost every week. The money I make doesn't matter to me I've made money enough to play with race cars and take care of my responsibilities as a father to 3 children and 3 beautiful granddaughters I'm out here just having fun and seeing what I can do driving a truck again after a long time achieving goals in other endeavors. I sold my contacts from my former business because of medical reasons and wanted to drive trucks again I loved doing it when I was 16 and I love it now except for the e-logs. But that is part of it and I work them down to the minute most days I like the challenge they present. I've won 6 championships in road racing in Florida and as with most everything I couldn't have done it without these guys that are asking me to now help them now. Maybe I shouldn't have posted this maybe I'm just asking for justification of what I'm going to do anyway

JD

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Not at all what I was hinting at, but I do agree that your asking for justification on what your going to do. And that's ok.. I get the feeling your a big boy and can do what needs to be done.

What I was asking more or less is that if your that good at running your clocks. Why not look at a different type of freight that might pay more per mile. And run at a less stressful pace?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

JD's Comment
member avatar

I am just learning how this business works today. I don't do anything without learning how the game is played first. I don't ask for raises I let my work ethic do that for me most new Werner drivers start at .36 cents a mile for the 1st year I live in Florida so they told me .36 cpm was starting pay, some states it's .38 cpm but I've earned an increase of .05 cents the 1st year without asking so werner is a good company in my opinion they take care of drivers who make the effort. I will drive those trans am cars to mid Ohio for the August 11 race if it cost me my job with Werner so be it there are other companies that I can drive for as well as one of the guys that will have a car in the hauler. But he is a local company in south Florida and I like running all over this nation but he will advocate for me if I lose my job with Werner. Like one of my clients once told me who was a very successful lawyer in palm beach he said " John! A good lawyer knows the law a great lawyer knows the judge!"

I really was asking if it was ethical to you guys to do this I guess.

JD

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Cwc's Comment
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I am just learning how this business works today. I don't do anything without learning how the game is played first. I don't ask for raises I let my work ethic do that for me most new Werner drivers start at .36 cents a mile for the 1st year I live in Florida so they told me .36 cpm was starting pay, some states it's .38 cpm but I've earned an increase of .05 cents the 1st year without asking so werner is a good company in my opinion they take care of drivers who make the effort. I will drive those trans am cars to mid Ohio for the August 11 race if it cost me my job with Werner so be it there are other companies that I can drive for as well as one of the guys that will have a car in the hauler. But he is a local company in south Florida and I like running all over this nation but he will advocate for me if I lose my job with Werner. Like one of my clients once told me who was a very successful lawyer in palm beach he said " John! A good lawyer knows the law a great lawyer knows the judge!"

I really was asking if it was ethical to you guys to do this I guess.

JD

What is best for you is not for others to decide.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Cwc's Comment
member avatar

I am just learning how this business works today. I don't do anything without learning how the game is played first. I don't ask for raises I let my work ethic do that for me most new Werner drivers start at .36 cents a mile for the 1st year I live in Florida so they told me .36 cpm was starting pay, some states it's .38 cpm but I've earned an increase of .05 cents the 1st year without asking so werner is a good company in my opinion they take care of drivers who make the effort. I will drive those trans am cars to mid Ohio for the August 11 race if it cost me my job with Werner so be it there are other companies that I can drive for as well as one of the guys that will have a car in the hauler. But he is a local company in south Florida and I like running all over this nation but he will advocate for me if I lose my job with Werner. Like one of my clients once told me who was a very successful lawyer in palm beach he said " John! A good lawyer knows the law a great lawyer knows the judge!"

I really was asking if it was ethical to you guys to do this I guess.

JD

So to answer you more throughly. When my contract was up with CRST my wife called the day after. She had been planning this trip with her mom for months. She was going to drive an RV from NC to WA. She's never driven anything that big. She called and asked me to if I could watch our "kids" cause she just couldn't drive it. She was going to buy plane tickets for herself and her mom.

I quit CRST to stay at home and watch our three Parrots for a week. I could've went back but I wasn't a "team driver" and the next job I went to started at .48cpm. My first check was 1400 and unless I was going home most of the rest of them were the same.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
JD's Comment
member avatar

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I am just learning how this business works today. I don't do anything without learning how the game is played first. I don't ask for raises I let my work ethic do that for me most new Werner drivers start at .36 cents a mile for the 1st year I live in Florida so they told me .36 cpm was starting pay, some states it's .38 cpm but I've earned an increase of .05 cents the 1st year without asking so werner is a good company in my opinion they take care of drivers who make the effort. I will drive those trans am cars to mid Ohio for the August 11 race if it cost me my job with Werner so be it there are other companies that I can drive for as well as one of the guys that will have a car in the hauler. But he is a local company in south Florida and I like running all over this nation but he will advocate for me if I lose my job with Werner. Like one of my clients once told me who was a very successful lawyer in palm beach he said " John! A good lawyer knows the law a great lawyer knows the judge!"

I really was asking if it was ethical to you guys to do this I guess.

JD

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So to answer you more throughly. When my contract was up with CRST my wife called the day after. She had been planning this trip with her mom for months. She was going to drive an RV from NC to WA. She's never driven anything that big. She called and asked me to if I could watch our "kids" cause she just couldn't drive it. She was going to buy plane tickets for herself and her mom.

I quit CRST to stay at home and watch our three Parrots for a week. I could've went back but I wasn't a "team driver" and the next job I went to started at .48cpm. My first check was 1400 and unless I was going home most of the rest of them were the same.

Wow you're doing great I guess I should ask Werner for a raise, but having owned a business for 35 years the employee that makes the most money I expected the most from so that's a double edge sword besides I like upping the bar if I'm doing this at low wage and the top money makers aren't then werner will stick with those like me. I'm sitting on a load that's going from Wisconsin to south Florida because my dispatcher knows I'll get it there. It's a jit load so she trust me an I won't let her or werner down, if you want to be the the best you can't worry about the pay.

I've won races many times running on tires my competitors took off because I don't run new tires they use to think I was cheating until they got to know me then they said that dam country boy can drive!

Anyway you knew drivers take notice you put forth the effort and you'll do well. I was a instructor at a school in Florida for a year while I was getting my knee fixed and I kept it simple with my students. Simply told them if their front bumper was going to the left so was their dot trailer bumper if front bumper is going right so was dot trailer bumper driving these things is easy because there so big an long try backing an 8' foot trailer with a pickup that's way harder than these

JD

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Cwc's Comment
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Lol I haul a tanker now and make more than .48cpm.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

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