Need The Truth On Celadon Quality Driving School . Any Truth Will Help Guide And Build My Confidence.

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lilrichie collins's Comment
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I still feel lost and bit confused....

Jerry's Comment
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I will gladly answer your questions the best I can, just please let me know what you want to know and if I don't have an accurate answer I will do my best to get one for ya.

lilrichie collins's Comment
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My confusion is about eveb though its a new school for celadon , why couldn't get the requirements right the first time and not get this condriction when it comez to the milesa new rookie can do . I m very unease about them right now and i feel likes im right back at square one . any suggestion for me will be helpful .

Jerry's Comment
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Well, if your recruiter is telling you that it's 240,000 team miles then go with that. This is the best answer regarding your question of "why cant they get it right the first time?"

they are having some issues at getting their new training program off the ground. Let's just call it growing pains - they will get past these problems and will eventually get all the kinks worked out, but it does seem they have bitten off more than they knew how to chew for the moment.

i'll gladly answer any more questions you have.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Conner B.'s Comment
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When you are done with orientation you will go out with your trainer for 12,000 miles which should be about 5-6 weeks. While you are on the truck with your trainer you are paid $58 a day. Once you have completed all of your miles with your trainer you can team up or go into Celadons lease purchase program. If you team, you can choose to be paid $0.15 per mile for 120,000 miles or you can choose $0.18 per mile for 240,000 miles. If you go lease, you are paid $0.84 per mile for 120,000 miles. Once you complete the 120,000 in either option or you complete the 240,000 as a team, you will then be switched to the experienced driver pay package.

Some of the Celadon team trucks do have a refrigerator already installed. But, all of the new Celadon trucks, team and solo will have a refrigerator and an inverter already installed on the truck.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

lilrichie collins's Comment
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OK any other trucking companies that dont use newbies to team ?? Im seriously consider gping with my second choice: knight transportation

Richard V.'s Comment
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How much are the leasr purchase payments? I start school tomorrow well lol today and am really interested in it. Better yet what's the average miles You run? Cause i figure if u cut the cpm in half for ur truck payment and insurance i still need to bringing in at least 400 a week

When you are done with orientation you will go out with your trainer for 12,000 miles which should be about 5-6 weeks. While you are on the truck with your trainer you are paid $58 a day. Once you have completed all of your miles with your trainer you can team up or go into Celadons lease purchase program. If you team, you can choose to be paid $0.15 per mile for 120,000 miles or you can choose $0.18 per mile for 240,000 miles. If you go lease, you are paid $0.84 per mile for 120,000 miles. Once you complete the 120,000 in either option or you complete the 240,000 as a team, you will then be switched to the experienced driver pay package.

Some of the Celadon team trucks do have a refrigerator already installed. But, all of the new Celadon trucks, team and solo will have a refrigerator and an inverter already installed on the truck.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

guyjax(Guy Hodges)'s Comment
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Great Answer!
How much are the leasr purchase payments? I start school tomorrow well lol today and am really interested in it. Better yet what's the average miles You run? Cause i figure if u cut the cpm in half for ur truck payment and insurance i still need to bringing in at least 400 a week

Instead of going into a long post about why it's not a good idea to lease a truck especially for a rookie because it is late and I am tired I will tell ya this......Trucks can and do break down all the time. It's apart of truck. It's not a question of IF you break down....it's when you break down and for how long. Simply put the lease companies do not care that you have been broke down for a week. You still have to make the truck and insurance payment regardless of you having the money. Can't make the payment they will take the truck back.

I am a very happy company driver at a large carrier. I am on goal to reach $50k this year. Let's say everything for you went perfect and you ran max miles and had no break down. Guess what you will make? Only 3% more than me. So for an extra $1560 dollars you are willing to take the chance in leasing a truck and guarantee that you will have zero break downs?

A 3% profit margin make absolutely no business sense other than to say you did it. I have been there and done that.

Perhaps I am speaking out of turn. Since I can tell nothing about your experience in driving a truck is it safe to assume you are a rookie? If not I apologize. If your not a rookie then you have the needed years of experience to judge where the best freight lanes are and the trends in the supply and demand chain?

Or is it that you are completely new to trucking and know nothing about freight lanes and supply and demand and while trying to learn all that you need to know to run a successful trucking business you will also be learning how to drive?

Richard V. here is the problem. Going on the fact that you have only two post on the forums and did not fill out the rest of your profile I will assume you are new to trucking. If i am wrong I will admit it.

A little background on me. I have had two of my own trucks before that I have leased. I was successful with both trucks. So I do know a bit of what I am talking about. Most truck payments are right around $700 to $800 a week in most lease programs. The insurance will run you another $200 to $400 a week. I will let you do the final math on those...............Got "Sticker Shock" yet? Now add in, if your running hard and doing all the miles you can, another $2500 in fuel for the week. Then through another 10 % each week into a maintenance fund so you can afford break downs (ie tires and oil changes and the like. ) Now add in another 14% for fuel tax and heavy truck road tax. Do you understand these numbers? If not you better get to finding out what these means cause they WILL make or break you in less than 6 months.

Now all the while trying to run a numbers crunching business you are also learning how to develop you skills as a driver.

So now we are talking about putting two very stressful things together (learning to drive and learning to run a business) and all the risk involved and let this be very clear YOU are taking all the risk. Not your company you are leased to.

Now you are going to be doing all this while I am driving my company truck the same as you and I have no risk at all so do you think all that extra work and stress is only worth $1560 dollars extra a year?

Remember at the beginning of this post I said I was not going to go into a long post? Well I didn't do a long post. This is a very short post concerning leasing a truck. Believe me I could literally do a post 30 times as long as this one and not have to repeat myself once on all the things you would need to know about leasing in order to make it as a trucking business owner.

I know you wanted the specifics of the Celadon leasing program but a one or two line response could not convey the information to you. I hope to god that this has scared you away from the thought of leasing.

Brother I am not jumping on you because of the question you asked. Everyone here on the forums knows that I will tell you how something is regardless of weather or not it's answer you will like. I know you were only curious about the leasing program I but I felt you needed more than a one line answer.

Weather or not you thank me down the line for saving you from a really bad headache I felt you needed to know the truth about leasing and sometimes the truth can suck but at least your eyes are opened a little bit more now.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Re Run's Comment
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I was just told last week 3-4 week training & 6months to a year team. Options 120 & 240 thousand miles what's the deference. Combined or individual maybe?

Joe S. (a.k.a. The Blue 's Comment
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I will put my 2 cents in here. Maybe to point something out before someone gets disappointed.

You don't get paid or credited for all the miles the truck rolls.

Celadon uses, what I call "Zip Code to Zip Code miles".

I am coming up on a year with them. I run solo. They send you a load and they tell you how many miles they have calculated it to be with what ever system they use.

I have been shorted as many as 60+ miles on a very long run and as little as 2 miles on a short run that they don't credit or pay for.

If they send you out of route for fuel, they don't pay you or give you credit for in for you contract.

I have been told that it all comes out in the end. I can't figure that. Every trip that I have done so far nothing agrees with their miles. My odometer nor GPS, nor Google maps agree with their miles.

Keep it safe out here. The life you save might be your own. Joe S

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

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