Good Man With A Felony Looking For Advice.

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Patrick W.'s Comment
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Hello All,

Where do I start? In December 2005, I plead guilty in Federal Court to a non-violent, non-drug related offense (white collar category). I was sentenced and served 36 months in Federal Prison. I have no other criminal records and interestingly enough if you run a standard background on me, my criminal history comes back clean.

I have been home now for just over 5 years and I have been off paper for a little over 2. I am not proud of my criminal past and I wish that I had learned somewhere else what I learned while I was in prison. Contrary to popular belief many people turn their time of incarceration into a positive and in my case that is what I did. I managed to keep my wife and children through the ordeal and I and my family believe that I am a much better person today than I was 10 years ago.

I have always enjoyed traveling and for as long as I could remember I always looked upon "The Knights of the Road" with a sense of awe. I know many of the reasons why I should not go into trucking and many more reasons why I should. I have reached out to Trainco here in Michigan and they gave me a direction to take in getting pre-hire letters. I am eligible for tuition assistance for my CDL and I would rather own it myself then attend company training and be further in debt.

The problem I am having is in dealing with the recruiters, they are always pleasant and even after I inform them of my criminal history they still sound quite confident that it will not be a problem. They tell me they need to confirm with their safety board and then I do not hear form them again. I have emailed them back and tried calling back but I do not get anywhere.

I know that within these forums there must be drivers that have a less than perfect past. I am hoping that someone may be able to give me some advice as to what direction I should take from here. I do greatly appreciate any help that you may be able to give.

Sincerely Patrick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

guyjax(Guy Hodges)'s Comment
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If your being turned down due to a background check then there is only one solution.....wait. Most companies ,regardless of the felony involved, want at least 10 years for clean living after you are completely through with your sentence. That includes being on paper also....i.e. parole and probation.

Now some companies may look at you at the 5 year mark but most want 10 years. I have faced this but seem to have little trouble cause it has been way over ten years since I was in trouble.

Like I said its still possible but I see the time limit as your main issue. You still have 3 years left for the 5 year mark cause that includes parole also. Some companies look at and start the timer at your conviction date and others start the timer when you are completely free(after parole).

With all the being said it is possible to find a job but you will literally have to apply at every company out there. I mean ALL of them to find that one that might take a chance on you despite the lack of time separating you from your past.

Schism's Comment
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The criminal background check you get from say a state Trooper barracks may not be as revealing as HireRight .

I know this to be the case with the NH MVR I paid for at my states Capitol DMV.

This does not give you a way out of your dilemma ....just an FYI.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

Justin N.'s Comment
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I was denied getting into a company sponsored training class due to a recent three month old charge of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. Even though the case was No Billed and dismissed, the company decided not to allow me in.

Then I went and called CR England, they had no problem with my back ground and put me through training and employment.

You may want to give them a try, the training is free as long as you work six or nine months for them.

Company Sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

Patrick W.'s Comment
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I wanted to thank you for your advice so far. I have tried CR England and they said that they wanted 10 years from my release because my crime involved theft. I understand of course but I am curious if the recruiters all talk from the same script as I have received contrary information from different recruiters from the same company.

I certainly understand the reservation of the companies when looking at a conviction but I am still holding hope. I do not blame anyone for my situation other than myself of course and I would love an opportunity to show that I have learned a great deal about myself and that if given a second chance I will show that I deserve it.

bookworm's Comment
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I wanted to thank you for your advice so far. I have tried CR England and they said that they wanted 10 years from my release because my crime involved theft. I understand of course but I am curious if the recruiters all talk from the same script as I have received contrary information from different recruiters from the same company.

I certainly understand the reservation of the companies when looking at a conviction but I am still holding hope. I do not blame anyone for my situation other than myself of course and I would love an opportunity to show that I have learned a great deal about myself and that if given a second chance I will show that I deserve it.

I'd just try applying at as many places as possible. My roommate did almost three years in TDCJ for a burglary for theft charge. He got his CDL while inside as part of a rehab program and got hired doing regional runs within 2 months of his release. Keep applying. Someone is bound to give you a shot.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

Patrick W.'s Comment
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Curtmandu,

I must say I am very happy to hear that your roommate had such good luck. Thanks for replying it means a great deal to hear something like that. Do you happen to know what company hired him? Thanks Again for the help.

bookworm's Comment
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Branum Trucking. It's a local company here in Canyon. They do regional runs for Affiliated Foods which is north of here in Amarillo.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

Tucker's Comment
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I have drug related charges from 9 years ago and while i ran into the same problem you did i found luck with Stevens, may trucking, and i might have had luck with covenant(still waiting to hear back on final approval). Also i have heard a lot of negative feed back but Carolina Cargo has hired many people that needed a second chance so you could give them a try, but like i said lots of negative feed back about them so i am not sure how they really are.

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