Log Book Question

Im trying to figure out correct way to log on-duty not driving.I spent 8 hours on duty learning a route but never drove.How do you log the stops/activities,etc.,I cannot find any visisual examples.Thanks.

Can you be a bit more specific? On duty not driving is just that. Its for fueling, pre trip inspection, switching trailers, pretty much anything your doing if your not in the sleeper or off duty on your time. Just a hint, I wouldn't spend 8 hours trip planning on the on duty line. I did trip planning on my own time to save hours, off duty line or sleeper berth. Remember you have the 70 hour rule so you don't want to burn your hours with a lot of on duty, and trip planning will get easier and you want take that long after you do it a few weeks.

Hope that helps but I may not be answering exactly what your asking.

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Can you be a bit more specific? On duty not driving is just that. Its for fueling, pre trip inspection, switching trailers, pretty much anything your doing if your not in the sleeper or off duty on your time. Just a hint, I wouldn't spend 8 hours trip planning on the on duty line. I did trip planning on my own time to save hours, off duty line or sleeper berth. Remember you have the 70 hour rule so you don't want to burn your hours with a lot of on duty, and trip planning will get easier and you want take that long after you do it a few weeks.

Hope that helps but I may not be answering exactly what your asking.

Sober-J over

He was in the jump seat learning a route which has to be logged as on duty. And since all actives that take place during a shift are on duty there is no change in duty status and only a "flag" is needed to show and action took place.

While it's true you want to save as much of your 70 hours as you can but if your working, and watching and learning a route is working, then it has to be labeled as on duty not driving.

Ah, that makes more since. Yeah sorry if I confused you Tom A.

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Im trying to figure out correct way to log on-duty not driving.I spent 8 hours on duty learning a route but never drove.How do you log the stops/activities,etc.,I cannot find any visisual examples.Thanks.

I could be wrong, but I believe you only have to put the location when you changed duty status. You do not have to flag the different locations you were at if you were on thessame duty status the entire time.

Im trying to figure out correct way to log on-duty not driving.I spent 8 hours on duty learning a route but never drove.How do you log the stops/activities,etc.,I cannot find any visisual examples.Thanks.

I could be wrong, but I believe you only have to put the location when you changed duty status. You do not have to flag the different locations you were at if you were on thessame duty status the entire time.

He was learned a route which involves stops in different places. And yes locations do go on a flag. Example say I pulled over for a quick break and since I had to do a mid trip vehicle inspection like flatbedders and hazmat haulers do and it happens to take less than 7 minutes you flag the equipment check and you have to add the location where it was done.

All flags need a location. If you are on elogs then it's done for you. Paper logs have to have a location on them or you risk getting a "Form and Manner" violation which means you did not cheat on your logs but you left something off of them that should be there.

I understand the equipment checks being flagged. I know they're required by law for certain things. In this situation though, I thought since he was on duty the entire time that he would only have to flag when he changed duty status.

So what you're saying is that each time there is a stop on a route you would need to flag it even if you weren't driving and stayed on duty for the duration? Just curious how that is supposed to be done. We very rarely have loads with more than one stop on them, so I don't have much experience with how to log that.

All work that is being recorded by the log book must be shown. Your log book is a record of your day. It is also a record of where you been. When recording an action such as a vehicle inspection (walk around during a quick break) the dot want to know where the action took place.