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AJ D.'s Comment
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OK ... The list has narrowed for Company Sponsored CDL

Please vote for your top two ! ( or , please tell me if I have left out a good one)

In alphabetical order .....

1. Con- Way ........ I like the work from dock option, but I haven't contacted for hard core details

2. Driver's Solutions...... PAM USA - slightly favored over PAM .... I like these because they are regional carriers , and living in Nashville, I would never be far away from home.

3. Knight - The only thing I don't like about Knight is that the schooling isn't absorbed or set up to pay back . Everything else about this company is awesome The Only Nashville main terminal I have found.

4. Millis - Atlanta school and terminal - most cost of school absorbed Family atmosphere with smaller class sizes.

5. Old Dominion - I haven't gathered much about this one yet. ... just heard some good stuff

6. Prime - perhaps too OTR for me. I can't be out for a month at a time

7. Roehl I Love this outfit. Atlanta main terminal (close enough, I think)

8. Swift / Central Another great outfit. Memphis / Atlanta main Terminals Memphis school

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OK ..... Input please

while you guys are idling at shipping / receiving ;)

Thank you all, for the incredible info I am gathering here.

Once I pick a School / carrier and complete the High Road Program. I will be half way to my new career.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

6 string rhythm's Comment
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Morning AJ. Not trying to be difficult here, but I'm not sure if you're going to get the input you're looking for. If anybody ranks your top ten picks, it will be for them. Nobody can rank for you, because nobody knows your own criteria for making judgments but you. It's like asking somebody if you should choose a certain company. Nobody on this forum is going to tell you what company to choose.

You've already hinted at one of your personal requirements in that you don't want to be away for more than a month at a time. And as you've already realized, that potentially rules out Prime Inc (although they do have a NE regional fleet that's bi-weekly). Depending on the school you choose, you might have to be more flexible with this, especially during training. After your training you could get a more regional job in said company, but you'll want to make sure that your company will have those kinds of regional positions immediately available for a rookie driver. Something to ask your recruiter - and hopefully they won't sing you a song about it ;)

I know you're interested in LTL , perhaps you should start there, depending if they have any terminals in your area. Perhaps a local job would be a good fit for you based on your hometime needs. Not sure how their in-house training works. I'd be curious to see what you come up w/ for CWF and OD. If you weren't ruling out Prime due to hometime needs, I would've suggested them as an OTR outfit, as I believe they probably pay the best during training, and if you stick w/ it for one year, your CDL A is basically free.

My suggestions are based on your choice for company-paid schooling. The reason why you're choosing company-paid over private CDL school is none of my business, but if you have the means, the latter might be a better option for you. Especially since you could find a school close by where you're commuting and could get home every night. Then, you'd have greater flexibility in choosing your first job. Trucking jobs are for the taking, so it's not like you'll have any trouble finding a job to pay back that loan for school, or your own bank account if you put the money up yourself. Just want to make sure you're hire-able if you go the private route. You don't wanna lay out that cash w/o the ability to get a job.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

David's Comment
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The only company I can tell you about is Swift, They are a good starter company. The merge with Central seams to have taken them down hill slightly in my eyes and from what I've heard, other than that, they worked for me when I went to their school. Now one thing you should consider is with Swift, you in a contract for 13 months and are actually Paying them for your schooling if you quit, you end up paying the full remainder of the tuition rather than half when being employed. Where as with say Prime, your contract is 12 months and don't pay them a dime unless you quit.

Now swift, you will be out for 4-6 weeks during training, which is about the same with any company really. After that you can pretty much do a 3 week out/3 days home and still make a good living.

As it was said before, know one here can really vote for a company for you to goto. It does all end up on you. If you haven't researched them all, continue and weigh the pros and cons of each. Pick the company that suits your needs and gets you what you want.

AJ D.'s Comment
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Thanks for the input guys.

I suppose I was looking for input on the companies I selected more than an actual vote. Mostly, anything really negative about one or another. I believe they are all fairly solid with Old Dominion taking a commanding lead in praise.

I was steering away from Prime because I want nothing to do with pure OTR. So, if I can get started in a company that could fill my career goals of LTL / P&D local / regional , why not just sign on with them , get my OTR out of the way with them, then I'm set for the internal transfer to LTL.

I think it is a better idea to get trained with company backing, rather than the private school / pre-hire route. It just leaves a little gap of unknown in a new career path that spooks me a bit.

It looks like a have a hand full of good carriers in Nashville to look at ..

Knight Old Dominion Con-Way....

Then , the rest are a shortish drive to Atlanta or Memphis for a school / main terminal

Millis Roehl Swift USA

The list is getting shorter.... time to start hitting the High Road Program

Thanks, again, guys :)

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

P&D:

Pickup & Delivery

Local drivers that stay around their area, usually within 100 mile radius of a terminal, picking up and delivering loads.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers for instance will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

6 string rhythm's Comment
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I believe they are all fairly solid with Old Dominion taking a commanding lead in praise.

There's a reason for that. smile.gif

guyjax(Guy Hodges)'s Comment
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In my opinion I would rank Pam way down around companies that even been thought of yet. I figure if an big organization like the EEOC thought enough of this then there had to be merit behind the case.

I dislike discrimination of any kind. Makes me angrier than hell when I always come back to this story.

pam fired truck driver after revealing he was hiv positive.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Robert P.'s Comment
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I've been driving LTL for 8 years now, so my first choice is one of the LTL carriers. Problem is that most LTL carriers make you drive "casual" "part-time" "as needed". Basically, babysit a telephone for hours or even days on end, waiting for them to need you. If you can get in the door, MOST of them are, not perfect, but pretty good places to work. (Especially if you get into one of the regional carriers) Best of luck.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier
6 string rhythm's Comment
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I've been driving LTL for 8 years now, so my first choice is one of the LTL carriers. Problem is that most LTL carriers make you drive "casual" "part-time" "as needed". Basically, babysit a telephone for hours or even days on end, waiting for them to need you. If you can get in the door, MOST of them are, not perfect, but pretty good places to work. (Especially if you get into one of the regional carriers) Best of luck.

Robert, I know of what you're speaking about, and it's one of the reasons I chose my particular LTL company. No waiting by the phone, no L/H drivers have been laid off at my terminal in the last 12 years. I came to learn about some guys being a slave to that phone for a year plus, just waiting to get more regular work.

Two questions I asked the L/H manager when I applied - will I have to be on call, is there a possibility of being laid off. He smiled and shook his head "no." If that's how all LTL companies operated, I would've just gone OTR. I can't afford to wait by the phone on a daily basis, being on call, having nothing even close to a regular sleep schedule for work, and then not having steady work. I've got a family to support. I don't know how some guys do that. I guess if you're single, it's worth the hoop to jump through in order to get into some LTL company. Not me.

I know you said "most" LTL companies operate like this. I know that YRC Freight has a reputation like the one you described above. I understand if you don't want to disclose, but do you work for YRC?

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

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