How Much Is To Far?

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Attila's Comment
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My first winter and man has it been a learning curve. The other night I was driving south out of Chicago trying to make a tight delivery by midnight. Ice storm hit, counted over a dozen ditched or rolled 4 wheelers, 2 jacknifed and 1 rolled semi all in a couple hours. The thing is I was not even nervous driving in those conditions. After a lot of Colorado, Dakotas, Minnesota and Montana winter driving im getting comfy in those conditions. However I'm old enough to know complacency will bite you. How do you guys determine when to get off the road, call the load in late? You go by your gut/reason or do you almost always plow through? Never had so much time to think about things before, maybe I'm just overthinking it now.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
6 string rhythm's Comment
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Tell you what, I've called off twice due to icy conditions. My linehaul manager is top notch and not only preaches safety - he backs it. Perhaps you hit the nail on the head, i.e. you better make sure you're not getting complacent or too comfortable.

I don't plow through, if there's ice, I'm not rolling. We've got one CDL A, and one life.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

David's Comment
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Tell you what, I've called off twice due to icy conditions. My linehaul manager is top notch and not only preaches safety - he backs it. Perhaps you hit the nail on the head, i.e. you better make sure you're not getting complacent or too comfortable.

I don't plow through, if there's ice, I'm not rolling. We've got one CDL A, and one life.

Yep pretty much

If your gut is telling you to stop, STOP. its not worth driving through. Even after a few years you'll find yourself still questioning it. I've had a few near miss's and its gotten me back on track to slow down and follow my gut. Not worth it.

Take it slow, safe and if your late, your late.. No one can penalize you for being late due to bad weather. I refuse to run at night with icy roads. I'll wait tell 10am when the suns been up for a few hrs before I run.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Fatsquatch 's Comment
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Over the years, I've learned one immutable truth: when that little voice in your head starts talking, you better listen.

Now, I'm not talking about the loud voices that tell you to stay home and play with the guns. Those voices are trouble. rofl-3.gif

But if you're cruising along and the weather starts getting skeevy, and that little voice tells you maybe it'stime to find somewhere to park the truck? PARK. THE. DAMN. TRUCK. I can't even begin to count the number of times I've been in that situation, paid attention to my interior klaxon, and seen a dozen or more trucks in various positions everywhere but the road the next morning. Had I tried to super-trucker my way through, I'd be right alongside those nitwits who thought for some stupid reason getting to their destination on time was more important than getting there intact. Last winter while running across I-80 in PA, I saw where an ABF driver had sent his truck and the doubles he was pulling off the side of the road and down a 100' embankment and wrapped it around a stand of trees. I heard over the CB a few minutes later that he was killed in that wreck. There is NOT ONE LOAD IN THE UNIVERSE that is worth more than your life.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
6 string rhythm's Comment
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Last winter while running across I-80 in PA, I saw where an ABF driver had sent his truck and the doubles he was pulling off the side of the road and down a 100' embankment and wrapped it around a stand of trees. I heard over the CB a few minutes later that he was killed in that wreck. There is NOT ONE LOAD IN THE UNIVERSE that is worth more than your life.

That spoke volumes to me. I run I-80, and I pull doubles. Pulling doubles, linehaul drivers have to be even more careful.

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

Attila's Comment
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Listened to you guys and my gut this time. Headed down I 70 PA, headed to . Another ice storm it seems. Truck started losing traction on bridges comming down the mountain. Gunna sleep through this one.

Trucktographer's Comment
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As my first winter I haven't had to deal with a lot. I have yet to call an early end to a day due to weather/road-conditions. But I have delayed my start till the sun had come up and started to warm things up.

Eckoh's Comment
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I have had to shut down twice due to ice... i will not drive on icy roads

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Rich K.'s Comment
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Hey Fatsquatch that wreck happened a few miles from my home in the Pocono Mtns of Pa. That Hill has claimed quite a few rigs and has made the owner of a local heavy wrecker company a rich man. I'm a newbie and will always have that hill and ones like it on the back of my mind.

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