Is This Normal For A Truck Driving Job Offer?

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Doug 's Comment
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Im saying I knew all about the 15% when I signed up. Its part of the contract that was voted on an accepted by the union. They could have refused and lost their jobs.

The contract runs through 2019, again I knew that when I signed up. My guess is the pension will go away and a 401k type plan will be part of the contract negotiation in the next contract or YRC may make an offer so good the union gets voted out altogether.

So because my buddy at FedEx Freight doesnt like it there after 20 years I should come here and tell everyone its a terrible place to work and I recommend they stay away from them ? Who am I to say ?

I have heard that OD is a great place to work for about 10 years and once you reach the top of the scale they will look for a reason to get rid of you. Im sure thats complete BS from disgruntled former drivers but who am I to say ? I dont work there and I have no clue if its true or not and quite frankly it doesnt concern me. Thats why I keep my mouth shut and my opinions to myself unless I have first hand knowledge.

Indy's Comment
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The 15% give back is enough for me to not wanna work at YRC.

I don't understand why that should bother someone in Tyler's shoes (let's not lose track of the reason for this thread) ... YRC was one of the highest payed trucking jobs at the time this happened... in fact, they were paying their drivers about 15% above market at the time. The current pay is respectable for LTL , plus free health care. Overall it's still a very good compensation package for a truck driver.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier
Tyler Durden's Comment
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The 15% give back is enough for me to not wanna work at YRC.

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I don't understand why that should bother someone in Tyler's shoes (let's not lose track of the reason for this thread) ... YRC was one of the highest payed trucking jobs at the time this happened... in fact, they were paying their drivers about 15% above market at the time. The current pay is respectable for LTL , plus free health care. Overall it's still a very good compensation package for a truck driver.

Just to say for comparison. I have a offer from YRC but I would love to get into Conway as Conway is much closer to home. Now granted Conway is driving to a terminal and then working the docks for a while then driving back to your home terminal. Now for the comparison.

Conway is starting at nearly 4 bucks a hour more then YRC and that does not include the 15% give back.

Yes I know for Conway they are not union, no pension and I pay for insurance.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier
Indy's Comment
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The 15% give back is enough for me to not wanna work at YRC.

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I don't understand why that should bother someone in Tyler's shoes (let's not lose track of the reason for this thread) ... YRC was one of the highest payed trucking jobs at the time this happened... in fact, they were paying their drivers about 15% above market at the time. The current pay is respectable for LTL , plus free health care. Overall it's still a very good compensation package for a truck driver.

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Just to say for comparison. I have a offer from YRC but I would love to get into Conway as Conway is much closer to home. Now granted Conway is driving to a terminal and then working the docks for a while then driving back to your home terminal. Now for the comparison.

Conway is starting at nearly 4 bucks a hour more then YRC and that does not include the 15% give back.

Yes I know for Conway they are not union, no pension and I pay for insurance.

Then on balance, it's looks like a wash ... compensation wise.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier
Doug 's Comment
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What the 15% means to a new employee is you make 85% of the scale. You are guaranteed a 5% increase each year so it will take you 3 years to reach 100% of the scale. In other words it will take you 3 years to reach what you would have started at before the 15% cut.

$4 sounds like alot until you consider the cost of insurance and what ever the retirement contribution is at Conway. For example, at Knight I paid $536 a month for health insurance coverage for me and my wife and kids. Thats a $6500 dollar a year raise I got going to YRC as its 100 % paid by them.

$4 an hour X 40 hrs a week X 52 weeks is $8,320. If you are paying less than $8,320 for health insurance and retirement then the $4 an hour figure is more than you would make per hour at YRC.

Tyler Durden's Comment
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What the 15% means to a new employee is you make 85% of the scale. You are guaranteed a 5% increase each year so it will take you 3 years to reach 100% of the scale. In other words it will take you 3 years to reach what you would have started at before the 15% cut.

$4 sounds like alot until you consider the cost of insurance and what ever the retirement contribution is at Conway. For example, at Knight I paid $536 a month for health insurance coverage for me and my wife and kids. Thats a $6500 dollar a year raise I got going to YRC as its 100 % paid by them.

$4 an hour X 40 hrs a week X 52 weeks is $8,320. If you are paying less than $8,320 for health insurance and retirement then the $4 an hour figure is more than you would make per hour at YRC.

Insurance for me would not be an issue as it is only myself. If I could stay on my wife's I would as it is nearly untouchable. She will insure herself and the kids.

The whole purpose of this thread was just to see if the call I received was common. The intent was not to turn this into a debate. Yes, YRC offered me and I will consider them.

I am still weighing all options currently. Yes I have applied to ABF, NEMF, Estes, Kinard, Ward, UPSF, YRC, Pitt Ohio and a couple others. I have only gotten anywhere with Kinard and YRC. Tomorrow I am going to Schneiders training facility and talk to them and have a look around.

I never considers OTR as an option but it is becoming more of one daily. But for that I'm pretty impressed with Maverick. Not sure why but I just really like all I have read about them.

I have through the holidays with income still coming in so I have a little time. Both Schneider and maverick are aware if I go there it wouldn't be until after January 1st. Maverick is fine with that Schneider would prefer I start before.

If Conway starts hiring and I get a offer from them..... That is where I'm going. Fingers crossed something opens up with them soon if not I may be off to little rock. Daughter doesn't want me to do it. It the rest is fine with it.

Besides I got a know it all 16 year old going through his major attitude stage. OTR would be a vacation from him. 😜

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Doug 's Comment
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My intent was just to point out the best way to make a decision isnt from opinions on an internet forum. Decide whats most important to YOU and find out who can best meet your needs.

This is a great forum full of great information and it points you in the right direction. You are the one who must figure out whats most important and where to find it.

Best of luck to you

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