Entering Canada

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PeanutBubbles44!'s Comment
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Does any know for sure if entering Canada, as a U.S. based driver are allowed to follow Canadian HOS? I had a stop that took 12 hours hours to get to from KY, if I was able to change my elogs to Canadian HOS at the border I would have made it one day. I do understand it will still take a 10 hr break to get back. Anyone?

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
The Persian Conversion's Comment
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Absolutely. As soon as you cross the border, you are operating on Canadian HOS rules.

Just remember that the opposite applies as well...

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Pat M.'s Comment
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Most drivers will stay under US rules because the HOS limits are lower, that way when they come back into the US they will not get shut down because they have gone over some US limit as soon as they came back across the border.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Rob S.'s Comment
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Not HOS related, but remember that no guns allowed into Canada, or if you have a criminal record. They will turn you around and not let you in. Not saying that you do, more as an FYI.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
The Persian Conversion's Comment
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Most drivers will stay under US rules because the HOS limits are lower, that way when they come back into the US they will not get shut down because they have gone over some US limit as soon as they came back across the border.

When I've gone over, I've definitely used the 13 hours/day drive time rule. For example, you might drive for 8 hours to get to the border, then when you cross over, you'd still be able to drive for 5 more hours.

But when coming back, say it takes you 12 hours to drive to the border. Well you're still good as far as Canada goes, but you can't cross the border until you've taken a 10 hour break.

The other trick is to make sure you have hours remaining on your 70. In Canada, you can drop the oldest recap day from your logs, since their rule is 70 hours in 7 days, not 8. But when you come back, that day goes back on. So unless you take a reset up there, you might go over.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
RebelliousVamp 's Comment
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Not HOS related, but remember that no guns allowed into Canada, or if you have a criminal record. They will turn you around and not let you in. Not saying that you do, more as an FYI.

You can't bring your gun in your truck in the first place....unless you're an owner operator , I suppose. But definitely no crossing the borders with one, or mace. (I'm Canadian, I live in the US)

Owner Operator:

An owner-operator is a driver who either owns or leases the truck they are driving. A self-employed driver.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Steve_HBG's Comment
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RV wrote:

You can't bring your gun in your truck in the first place.

I respectfully disagree.

Western Distributing in Denver, Colorado hauls money for the U.S. Government, and everyone of its drivers assigned to that account must be permitted to carry guns. http://www.wdtc.net/

Also, here's a link to proponents of guns, and these proponents indicate that a Commercial Driver is legally permitted to carry: http://www.guns.com/2013/12/20/can-carry-handgun-commercial-vehicle/

But, I digress. The OP wanted to know about HOS.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
RebelliousVamp 's Comment
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RV wrote:

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You can't bring your gun in your truck in the first place.

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I respectfully disagree.

Western Distributing in Denver, Colorado hauls money for the U.S. Government, and everyone of its drivers assigned to that account must be permitted to carry guns. http://www.wdtc.net/

Also, here's a link to proponents of guns, and these proponents indicate that a Commercial Driver is legally permitted to carry: http://www.guns.com/2013/12/20/can-carry-handgun-commercial-vehicle/

But, I digress. The OP wanted to know about HOS.

I was responding to another member's post about crossing the Canadian borders with guns....not even sure why he mentioned it in the first place anyway. I'm pro guns, I have them. And from what I gathered so far, you can't bring your gun with you, most company policies will not allow it. DOT won't like it. Some states don't even allow you to enter with them unless you're licensed in that state. Seems a LOT of troubles to go through. I wish I could bring my gun with me for self defense.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Rob S.'s Comment
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RV wrote:

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You can't bring your gun in your truck in the first place.

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I respectfully disagree.

Western Distributing in Denver, Colorado hauls money for the U.S. Government, and everyone of its drivers assigned to that account must be permitted to carry guns. http://www.wdtc.net/

Also, here's a link to proponents of guns, and these proponents indicate that a Commercial Driver is legally permitted to carry: http://www.guns.com/2013/12/20/can-carry-handgun-commercial-vehicle/

But, I digress. The OP wanted to know about HOS.

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I was responding to another member's post about crossing the Canadian borders with guns....not even sure why he mentioned it in the first place anyway. I'm pro guns, I have them. And from what I gathered so far, you can't bring your gun with you, most company policies will not allow it. DOT won't like it. Some states don't even allow you to enter with them unless you're licensed in that state. Seems a LOT of troubles to go through. I wish I could bring my gun with me for self defense.

The subject of this thread was entering Canada. I even stated that my post has nothing to do with HOS , but rather entry into Canada. Just wanted to avoid hassles for some drivers that might have a gun with them or have prior criminal records. I think it's relevant to the subject of the post, but it seems that some gun toting people always have to be right.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
RebelliousVamp 's Comment
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Gun toting people? I'm no such thing, and wasn't trying to be "right". I was just agreeing with your post about not bringing guns in Canada.

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