Two Drivers In A Small Can

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Errol V.'s Comment
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I'm spending the night at a Swift terminal. Another truck pulls up next to me with two Swift team drivers. One of them had a question about the Qualcomm so I went over to their truck to see what's going on.

"Driver A" had been in the sleeper during the day for eight and a half hours, then started driving. When I met them Driver A's time was an hour and a half over his 14. "Driver B" had over 24 hours in the sleeper berth!

I explained to them a DOT officer would not be happy if he saw that. They have an appointment about 6 hours drive away tomorrow morning. I told Driver A he needs to stop right now, and Driver B must drive tonight to make their appointment time. I think Driver B was not happy with that. It turns out one has been driving for 4 months and the other one for 3. I think they did not know each other until they got in the truck together. I don't know where either one of them got their training. Yes, they are Swift drivers. I'm sorry.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Rob S.'s Comment
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Yikes. At least you were there to help them.

Errol V.'s Comment
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I don't know why the 24 hour sleeper guy took a day off. He did seem to have an attitude. The guy that was over-time drove the truck away.

I wanted so much to try to talk to them about solo driving, but I bit my tongue.

Phox's Comment
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I'm lost on what exactly happened... Could you explain it a little more clearly. It sounds like one of them was driving on the other's logs instead of his own but I'm all kinds of confused.

Scott O.'s Comment
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I'm lost on what exactly happened... Could you explain it a little more clearly. It sounds like one of them was driving on the other's logs instead of his own but I'm all kinds of confused.

They didn't do a driver change... The first driver drove over his time instead of switching with his co driver... Hos violation...

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Errol V.'s Comment
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They both knew how to change drivers on the QC. And it didn't seem to be the case. Besides, a DOT inspector would depend on the e-logs, not any explanation.

The longest drive time on Driver A was about 8-1/2 hours. All the other drive times were just a couple hours each..

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Scott O.'s Comment
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You said driver a was in the sleeper for 8 and a half hours during the day then when you met up with him he was over his 14 by 1 and a half hours.. Driver b had been in the sleeper 23 hours....

That means driver a drove over his time cuz either driver b didn't want to drive or couldn't drive... Did I misread it..

Errol V.'s Comment
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That means driver a drove over his time cuz either driver b didn't want to drive or couldn't drive... Did I misread it..

That's what I got. I mentioned Split Sleeper, but I could have just as well been speaking Italian.

As I pointed out that Driver B needed to drive all night, he got into the bunk and closed the curtain. When they left, Driver A drove.

Scott O.'s Comment
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That means driver a drove over his time cuz either driver b didn't want to drive or couldn't drive... Did I misread it..

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That's what I got. I mentioned Split Sleeper, but I could have just as well been speaking Italian.

As I pointed out that Driver B needed to drive all night, he got into the bunk and closed the curtain. When they left, Driver A drove.

That's the bad part about team driving... But driver a should of said something.

Errol V.'s Comment
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Dang! I should have told them both to get on TT's High Road Training Program & study HOS!

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CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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