Drivers Log App, Anyone Use These?

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Tom The Bacon Pirate 's Comment
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I'm looking into the Logbook Apps that are available, some are billed as "DOT compliant" and I see the industry standard is going to all digital log books.

I'm looking at two specifically : BigRoad Trucker Log Book, and another called Trucking Logbook by Keep Truckin Inc. Both are on the play store.

Seeing as I've never used a paper log book, and I'm just starting out, does anyone have any opinions??

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Errol V.'s Comment
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I've played with Keep Truckin's all. (My official logs go on Swift's Qualcomm.)

Keep Truckin is easy to use, you can go back and edit until you close the day. I downloaded this one and didn't feel the need for anything else. But I use it only as a backup if the QC goes down.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.
Pat M.'s Comment
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I use the keep truckin log book but with any of these that do not connect to the ECM of the truck, you MUST carry the ability to print the logs if requested. These apps will tell you or omit that portion making you think that you do not have to have that ability but you do.

Phox's Comment
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I use keeptruckin's for personal reference but both companies I have done orientation with said if their e log system goes down you must use a paperlog... I plan to have a friendly chat with safety to see if I can convince them otherwise. There's just no need to use paperlogs anymore if you have all these other options. move on from the stone age. If you try to tell me my phone could break too... well guess what my pen could run out of ink... things can happen on any of the options.

The latest excuse I got from USX was that they needed a license to get the logs from you... I call BS on it.

Knight said they need the paper ones so they can correct your e log on their end if it goes down... that's why you have the ability to print, email and fax them guys...

Keep truckin also has a device for owner ops that lets you plug a little "thingy" into the trucks computer so it is fully compliant with the requirements that must be met by dec 2017. that the e log must be synced with truck's computer. they only charge something like $20 a month for it.

There was another one I used but it was way way complicated to edit your logs (like if you make a mistake). keep truckin is pretty simple.

Errol V.'s Comment
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Any company needs some evidence of your driving. There is no connection from Keep Truckin to your company. If you can work fast, get the email copy from K.T., print it out and submit that as your paper copy. Or send then a fax. K.T. can email or fax the reports.

I suppose if your company will accept email you can send them directly.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

guyjax(Guy Hodges)'s Comment
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I use keeptruckin's for personal reference but both companies I have done orientation with said if their e log system goes down you must use a paperlog... I plan to have a friendly chat with safety to see if I can convince them otherwise. There's just no need to use paperlogs anymore if you have all these other options. move on from the stone age. If you try to tell me my phone could break too... well guess what my pen could run out of ink... things can happen on any of the options.

There was another one I used but it was way way complicated to edit your logs (like if you make a mistake). keep truckin is pretty simple.

Its not your company that you have to convince. Since it is a federal law that says you must use paper logs as a backup to your Elogs its the federal government you have to convince. Good luck with that.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Phox's Comment
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I use keeptruckin's for personal reference but both companies I have done orientation with said if their e log system goes down you must use a paperlog... I plan to have a friendly chat with safety to see if I can convince them otherwise. There's just no need to use paperlogs anymore if you have all these other options. move on from the stone age. If you try to tell me my phone could break too... well guess what my pen could run out of ink... things can happen on any of the options.

There was another one I used but it was way way complicated to edit your logs (like if you make a mistake). keep truckin is pretty simple.

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Its not your company that you have to convince. Since it is a federal law that says you must use paper logs as a backup to your Elogs its the federal government you have to convince. Good luck with that.

can you show me where it says you have to use paper logs as back up if e log goes down because I have yet to find anything that says that. Not calling you a liar or anything I just need to know where it says that. My understanding is that you just need a back up log option, be it paper or a separate e log.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

C. S.'s Comment
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can you show me where it says you have to use paper logs as back up if e log goes down because I have yet to find anything that says that. Not calling you a liar or anything I just need to know where it says that. My understanding is that you just need a back up log option, be it paper or a separate e log.

From JJ Keller's (the company that prints all those pretty little green/red/orange books of regulations) FAQ on E-logs:

What happens if an AOBRD stops working? If an AOBRD fails, the driver must:

Note the failure of the device; Reconstruct his/her logs for the current day and the previous 7 days, less any days for which the driver has records; and continue to prepare a handwritten log until the device is working again.

I don't have time to dig through the FMCSA's 516-page final rule on elogs and find the official rule, but it's in there somewhere. You also have to keep blank paper logs on the truck in case they're needed.

EOBR:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Steve_HBG's Comment
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I use keeptruckin's for personal reference but both companies I have done orientation with said if their e log system goes down you must use a paperlog... I plan to have a friendly chat with safety to see if I can convince them otherwise. There's just no need to use paperlogs anymore if you have all these other options. move on from the stone age. If you try to tell me my phone could break too... well guess what my pen could run out of ink... things can happen on any of the options.

There was another one I used but it was way way complicated to edit your logs (like if you make a mistake). keep truckin is pretty simple.

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Its not your company that you have to convince. Since it is a federal law that says you must use paper logs as a backup to your Elogs its the federal government you have to convince. Good luck with that.

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can you show me where it says you have to use paper logs as back up if e log goes down because I have yet to find anything that says that. Not calling you a liar or anything I just need to know where it says that. My understanding is that you just need a back up log option, be it paper or a separate e log.

Here is one source for the requested information: Keep Paper Logs When EOBR Fails

EOBR:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Steve_HBG's Comment
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Read Page 54 for the requirement to use paper logs when the e-log machine malfunctions

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
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