Life Of A Tank Driver

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Seadragon H.'s Comment
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Several tanker companies hire new cdl grads. No experience required, only need a cdl school diploma. Schneider Bulk CTL Transportation Superior-Carriers Tidewater Transit McKenzie Tank Lines SVTN Girton Propane Service Trimac Transportation Western Dairy Transport Dairy Farmers of America

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Rick S.'s Comment
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Tanks for the continuing updates Dan (see what I did there?).

Nice of you to come back occasionally and keep the board updated on your progress - we appreciate it. Congrats on your milestone(s) of 14 months and 100K miles.

Several tanker companies hire new cdl grads. No experience required, only need a cdl school diploma. Schneider Bulk CTL Transportation Superior-Carriers Tidewater Transit McKenzie Tank Lines SVTN Girton Propane Service Trimac Transportation Western Dairy Transport Dairy Farmers of America

We "typically" don't recommend newly minted CDL drivers go right into tanker out of school. It might be better to get some miles & experience under your belt, learning how to operate a rig - before taking on the added complications of 40K+ lbs of load that sloshes around all the time.

Food tankers are always "smooth bore" - meaning have one single compartment with no baffles or bulkheads - this assures a sanitary CLEANOUT. The wrinkle this adds, is that the entire load is moving back & forth/side to side (versus baffles which slow the motion of the liquid load). Most of the majors that do training, are hauling food grade tanks.

I'm told that you haven't lived, until you have to stop rapidly for that traffic light, and had your load slam forward with such force, that it pushes you into the intersection. There's also the added factor of having to do washouts (eats clock time) and most loads are "live loads" (though as Dan has mentioned, he does get some "drop and hooks").

Not trying to discourage folks that are interested in tanker - just suggesting you get some miles under your belt, before taking on the added complication.

Obviously, it worked out OK for Dan.

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Baffle:

A partition or separator within a liquid tank, used to inhibit the flow of fluids within the tank. During acceleration, turning, and braking, a large liquid-filled tank may produce unexpected forces on the vehicle due to the inertia of liquids.

Bulkhead:

A strong wall-like structure placed at the front of a flatbed trailer (or on the rear of the tractor) used to protect the driver against shifting cargo during a front-end collision. May also refer to any separator within a dry or liquid trailer (also called a baffle for liquid trailers) used to partition the load.

Drop And Hook:

Drop and hook means the driver will drop one trailer and hook to another one.

In order to speed up the pickup and delivery process a driver may be instructed to drop their empty trailer and hook to one that is already loaded, or drop their loaded trailer and hook to one that is already empty. That way the driver will not have to wait for a trailer to be loaded or unloaded.

Dan E.'s Comment
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Got served some humble pie. i've been with prime now for almost a year and a half and these last 6 months or so have been going pretty well. no accidents of any kind, been on time for most of my loads and my driving skills have gone to a new level. i now feel like i can navigate even the toughest terrain with the proper trip planning. i drive mainly northeast and ontario, and while traffic sucks and you have to be alert 100% of the time, i feel comfortable behind the wheel. im relaxed and at a good place.

i really enjoy prime, they treat me well and they let me do my thing without asking questions which is really nice. however the one thing they dont offer is more hometime which is why i put in an application to a local company offering hometime every other day and a full weekend. pay is 20 hour so about the same as im getting now, maybe a little less but it will be more consistent. they hire new graduates and my friend who graduated with me from cdl school started with them. i've talked with their recruiters and feel like this is the place for me. just yesterday i got a reply from my application saying i was denied because of a minor accident over a year ago(backing, hit another trailer) and one 10 months ago where my truck rolled into another trailer. both incidents caused minor damage no police, no witness, except me telling my company what happened. i put it on the application because i didnt want them to find out while i was at orientation and send me home. i asked why it was denied and the lady said because of those 2 incidents. that really brought my confidence down quite a bit. they will hire a newbie but not an experienced driver. i was getting really excited about them because everything i have read said they are an excellent company.

not sure what im going to do next. i could look harder for other local jobs, but so far have not found anything quite like them. or i could stay with prime, like everything about them except for the hometime. the longer im out on the road the more i miss the normal things in life.

anyways on to other things, more specifically trucking things :) i had a really proud moment about 4 months ago. was driving along in the midwest and came along a sign saying accident, expect major delays. im thinking crap im gonna be late, so i stopped on a off ramp and checked google maps. sure enough there was a loooong red line covering maybe 5 miles from where i was to the accident scene. figured this might take an hour or 2 so i winged it and drove through some back roads and made it on the other side of the accident in 20 minutes. cant know for sure, but im guessing i just saved my self quite some time and passed some more experienced truckers.

on the flip side, a couple months ago i was driving down i75 in kentucky and there was an accident ahead of me maybe 20 minutes earlier. wasnt able to find a way around, but i did get a nice 2 hour nap right on the interstate lol.

been reading this forum quite a bit and have noticed how different the experience is with reefer/dry or flatbed vs tanker. both good and bad. for instance the good for a tanker is that we dont have tandems to worry about, our load is always balanced heh. also our trailers are shorter 46' vs 53' not to mention we hardly ever have to scale at a truck stop. 95% percent of our shippers or receivers have a scale for us to use, or go by what they had in their tank before and after they put it in our tank. we also dont back in a dock whith 5-10 other trucks in a very tight situation. most of the time it's only me or maybe 1 other guy near me. 50% of the time no shipping office to deal with, just a guy who comes knocking on your door asking for the paperwork.

but the bad side(or good if you like to be active) is that we have to supervise our unload, whether we pump or the customer pumps. averages to about 2 hours from start to stop. so less time in the sleeper to sleep which i like to do lol. not to mention in the freezing cold we still have to be out there. granted you dont have to be staring at the connections the whole time, but you do need to keep tabs on it and constantly checking up on it. also on occasion the pump can give you headaches and you might have to use a torch to heat up the pipe in extreme cold temps or replace a seal because its leaking. i had to use my torch once this winter. we also have to go to tank washes after every load. sometimes its a drop and hook , but other times its a long wait,2-5 hours usually.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

Drop And Hook:

Drop and hook means the driver will drop one trailer and hook to another one.

In order to speed up the pickup and delivery process a driver may be instructed to drop their empty trailer and hook to one that is already loaded, or drop their loaded trailer and hook to one that is already empty. That way the driver will not have to wait for a trailer to be loaded or unloaded.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
6 string rhythm's Comment
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I appreciate your updates Dan. At one time I was in touch with Prime about their northeast tanker gig. I had a recruiter and had sent my info and was approved. I wound up taking the "easy" route and decided to jump into LTL out of trucking school as a linehaul driver and pull doubles.

Thanks for continuing to update your story. Hopefully you'll find something that gets you home more often eventually. In the meantime, I hope you continue to enjoy your time at Prime and keeping learning from new experiences.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

Dan E.'s Comment
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Pulling doubles scares me more than pulling a tank to be honest. there have been a couple times where i have missed a turn or drove past a shipper/receiver. i had to back up(nobody around) but dont know how i would do that with 2 trailers. once you over commit, you can jack knife the trailer and only way to correct it would be to pull up again i think. do you guys back up to a dock or just drop it off on the side of a lot? im also curious about why i see so many double trailers right next to toll booths. there is usually a huge lot as soon as you go through one of the toll booths. is that just a storage area?

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

6 string rhythm's Comment
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I'm not sure about what you saw by toll booths, but there are certain areas in particular states where you have triples lots, also places for LCVs like turnpike doubles up in NY. These are meet spots where a driver might pull doubles and swap out with a triples guy. We have a meet spot like that in Ohio. Fed Ex Freight and UPSF uses it too. Outside of a designated triples lot you might have seen, you could've just seen guys swapping out doubles or taking their 30 ... or a nap.

Yes, you can back doubles, but it's an arduous task. A couple feet is doable without getting your dolly jumbled up, but any more than that is a feat of acrobatics. Lots of slithering and squirming. It's why I usually stay away from truck stops or places where I might get trapped. This is why lots of linehaul drivers just pull off to the side where you might not be allowed to park, or in a fuel bay so they can just pull straight out. It's easier to just try to avoid having to back up, and often it's just quicker to break the set and get it turned around by re-hooking - which is also a pain.

At terminals you might just drop a whole set as a relay, or break it and back individual trailers to doors or spots in the yard.

Honestly, I'd rather pull a set than a van. Besides not being able to really back up easily, you can take tighter turns with a set since it bends in the middle. I've hauled bulk liquid loads in totes already and have experienced probably just a taste of the surge you tanker guys can experience. It's all a matter of getting used to pulling a different kind of trailer.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

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