Driving History Question Sort Of Tricky?

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Matt L.'s Comment
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First I wanted to say hello to everyone on this forum.

Hello My Name is Matthew L. I just had a couple of question before I head to CDL Training School when they search for driving records. I know most places want to know a driving history of 5 years or more with No DWI/DUI or certant moving violations.

In Oklahoma Feb 2012 I was arrested for DUI Refusal, Inattentive Driving, Failure to Obey Traffic Control Device and Leaving the scene of Accident, But I was never charged with DUI or DWI. (Yeah really bad decision and really rough time in that part of my life) Nobody was hurt happen in a parking lot. Lady is a husband of a Police Officer. And I been Living in Kentucky sense September 2013 with a flawless record. I was told after 3 years in Oklahoma they would need court order to get that information "Even if that is true". I gave my recruiter my previous drivers licence number and current one in KY and He could not find any info about that.

So my biggest concern is getting all my paper work in order CDL Permit, DOT Physical just to show up to school then when they run my final background check they find those records and send me packing back home. Is there a particular data base I can search for myself? The company PAM Transport and i was told they use www.hireright.com for background checks.

Even though I don't Have a DUI will these other violations prevent me from furthering my career in truck driving thanks again Matt

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

DUI:

Driving Under the Influence

DWI:

Driving While Intoxicated

Rick S.'s Comment
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What charges were you ACTUALLY CONVICTED FOR?

Were you ARRESTED? If you were arrested and fingerprinted, this will show up when they do a deeper background check (NCIC). Anytime you've ever been fingerprinted - it'll show, as a copy are sent to the Feds (if for nothing other than warrant checks). Once you're in the system - you're IN THE SYSTEM.

Pull an OK and KY MVR report - you'll likely have to PAY for at least the OK one - and see what shows. The "leaving the scene" is probably the MOST SERIOUS next to the "refusal to blow". Did you catch a SUSPENSION for the refusal? Most states enforce "implied consent" (that is, by signing your drivers license, you are also consenting to sobriety testing - refusal results in immediate suspension) - so did you get suspended.

Feb 2012 was a long ways back - come Feb of 2017, 5 years back. Assuming you have no other traffic or criminal issues SINCE THEN, you are probably OK. PROBABLY. Also depends on if you caught a suspension for the DUI Refusal (which, as I said - is automatic in some states, simply for refusing).

Are you looking at COMPANY SPONSORED TRAINING - or PRIVATE SCHOOL?

Most non-company schools will be happy to take your $$ for school - even if you have prior issues that might preclude (or at least make it more difficult) to get a hire. At least, at company sponsored training - if you make it into a truck, you are most likely going to get hired after you get your CDL in hand.

Best you can do is APPLY AND DISCLOSE. ONLY DISCLOSE WHAT IS ASKED FOR. If they ask for everything within FIVE YEARS - than the 02/12 stuff is going to have to be disclosed. If they ask for DUI ARRESTS (rather than DUI CONVICTIONS), you are likely going to have to disclose.

Always better to DISCLOSE-DOCUMENT-EXPLAIN, than it is to not disclose and look like you are CONCEALING (aka: LYING). But don't OVER-DISCLOSE either. Include what they ask for - nothing more, NOTHING LESS.

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

Company Sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

DUI:

Driving Under the Influence

Matt L.'s Comment
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What charges were you ACTUALLY CONVICTED FOR?

I was only convicted of Inattentive Driving, Failure to Obey Traffic Control Device and Leaving the scene of Accident. Yes I was finger printed but my Licence was never suspended Oddly enough. Even got my picture taken in the local paper "Jail Birds"

I was planing with sponcer Driver Solutions then on to PAM Transport if all goes well. Might just wait till Feb still IDK?

Seem they just ask if convicted of DUI/DWI speeding tickets in past 5 years well then short answer is.....NO, I just don't really want to waste my time and money getting DOT physical and permit for them to run that background and send me packing. Or just find a sponsored CDL course that will accept me, I'm sure there are a few out there. just seem like PAM has there sign on bonus and newer Trucks with APU's and gizmos. And I have family near there headquarters in Arkansas pay them a visit after orientation .

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

DUI:

Driving Under the Influence

DWI:

Driving While Intoxicated

APU:

Auxiliary Power Unit

On tractor trailers, and APU is a small diesel engine that powers a heat and air conditioning unit while charging the truck's main batteries at the same time. This allows the driver to remain comfortable in the cab and have access to electric power without running the main truck engine.

Having an APU helps save money in fuel costs and saves wear and tear on the main engine, though they tend to be expensive to install and maintain. Therefore only a very small percentage of the trucks on the road today come equipped with an APU.

APU's:

Auxiliary Power Unit

On tractor trailers, and APU is a small diesel engine that powers a heat and air conditioning unit while charging the truck's main batteries at the same time. This allows the driver to remain comfortable in the cab and have access to electric power without running the main truck engine.

Having an APU helps save money in fuel costs and saves wear and tear on the main engine, though they tend to be expensive to install and maintain. Therefore only a very small percentage of the trucks on the road today come equipped with an APU.

Adam B.'s Comment
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February is only a month or so away and in a lot of states things start dropping from your record after 5 years. You could wait until February and then pull your MVR and see if the charges are still there. You could also call up a few recruiters from the mega carriers and explain your situation and see if they would still bring you on.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

Rick S.'s Comment
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The "leaving the scene", is probably the most egregious (since the "fail to submit" wasn't prosecuted, and you didn't catch a suspension for it).

"Driver Solutions" is actually the recruiting arm for PAM - since they ONLY TRAIN FOR PAM. I'd venture that if you disclose and Driver Solutions says OK - that you shouldn't have an issue with PAM.

But there are still other options available to you - so you don't have to put your "eggs in one basket".

As far as the "3 years they need a court order" - an MVR is an MVR. With interstate reciprocity - there isn't going to be much of an issue with a trucking company's INSURANCE COMPANY (since they are the entity you have to get past) getting whatever 411 they need on you.

Plenty of companies have APU's and "gizmo's", and while they do make a difference comfort-wise, they shouldn't be the sole factor in making your decision.

Rick

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

APU:

Auxiliary Power Unit

On tractor trailers, and APU is a small diesel engine that powers a heat and air conditioning unit while charging the truck's main batteries at the same time. This allows the driver to remain comfortable in the cab and have access to electric power without running the main truck engine.

Having an APU helps save money in fuel costs and saves wear and tear on the main engine, though they tend to be expensive to install and maintain. Therefore only a very small percentage of the trucks on the road today come equipped with an APU.

APU's:

Auxiliary Power Unit

On tractor trailers, and APU is a small diesel engine that powers a heat and air conditioning unit while charging the truck's main batteries at the same time. This allows the driver to remain comfortable in the cab and have access to electric power without running the main truck engine.

Having an APU helps save money in fuel costs and saves wear and tear on the main engine, though they tend to be expensive to install and maintain. Therefore only a very small percentage of the trucks on the road today come equipped with an APU.

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