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Derrick M.'s Comment
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If I hooked up a trailer to a pickup and played around with that, would that offer any backing help whatsoever? Obviously it's not the same thing, but would I gain any benefit at all? Does any of that skill carry over to backing a tractor trailer? Or am I better off just not messing with it?


Haya, Derrick;

I've been following as well; wife of a 20yr / 50 y/o driver, haha! You are amazing with your details, I gotta say. Takes me back to 2003 when my guy had to get that 160 certificate, too...LoL.

I used to pull boat props and underwater shafting (zincs & shafts, actually) behind a 3/4 ton Chevy, 3 on the tree, with a 28' trailer toting the goods. General Propeller/Miami Propeller and Sea Ray Boats, in Florida.

Under 26,000K, so no CDL necessary. Fun times, though !!!! Very dissimilar to 18 wheelers, however.. at least IMHO.

When I went driving with my guy, back in 2015 pulling tanks, nothing related (much) to what I'd learned. Not 'MUCH' is key. Directionally, sure....hands on the bottom of my wheel, watch your wagon, etc.... turn 'into' the problem, sure. The short wheelbase is SOOOOO different. I've even pulled a 48' Wellcraft behind the bossman's van back in the day.. still, different. I'll let the 'vets' of TT expound, but again, this is MY experience. It almost made me feel 'over confident,' TBH...thinking I 'knew' something. Overall....IMHO I don't 'think' so.. but I'm not a driver yet again these days; maybe the pro's will say otherwise.

YOUR DIARY IS AMAZING; I'll always be following & recommending it, for sure! And hilariously .. I didn't answer your question, whatsoever. Apologies; just relatable info..from my POV~!

On a final note, if you go to WalMart and buy a die cast (1/16"?) rig ... THAT helps. Just my two cents. Many trainers (Past, present, and future) still suggest this. Erroll V. has mentioned this in many posts, as well.

Best wishes; excellent reading!


Thank you for the kind words! I actually have a couple of old die cast trucks packed away from when I was a kid. Guess I have an excuse to tell the wife that I have to play with trucks now! :)


Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.


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PackRat's Comment
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Another observation I should have posted involves the difference with the trailers. The trailer towed with a pickup will be amuch shorter length, so a much faster, snappier reaction while backing. A 53' standard CMV trailer will react much more slowly, and is more forgiving during movements.

Remember that when driving, especially in reverse, you are actually driving the trailer, not the truck.


Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards
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