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andhe78's Comment
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Did you mention your pole hit when talking to the safety director? I’m a no harm/no foul type of guy, but admitting something like this to safety (after the trainer let it go) is a brilliant move on your part. Lol.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
andhe78's Comment
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but that's because it was the end of the night and I was getting tired and for some reason forgot to raise the landing gear haha.

Hahahahahahaha, hilarious!! We fired a guy for this last week. Lost a six figure job a month before Christmas. But let’s laugh about it.

Paul J.'s Comment
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Thankfully the bosses of the training program and the safety director at Wilson Logistics are more mature than you are lol.

They told me I’m in the right. It’s not about hand holding but actual training. The whole point of Kraft training is to teach you what to pay attention to without having to hit anything to learn those lessons.

They had a talk with my trainer and last night he did a good job training me and helped me learn a lot more of what exactly to pay attention to. Turns out I was using the wrong convex mirrors.

I no longer have a hard braking problem because he taught me better foot placement, and no longer have a problem with making tight turns, thanks to knowing the correct things to pay attention to now, such as which mirrors to use.

Also no other students had the issue with their trainer that I had. Their trainers actually communicated with them.

Also not everyone learns exactly the same way. So a style of training that works for me may not necessarily work for you. Part of being a good trainer is the willingness to be flexible with how you train. That’s a common problem with a lot of trainers across many trades.

I was a welder for 13years and was fabricating bulldozers for Caterpillar until the pandemic shut the factory down.

By the end of my welding career I was training newbies how to weld like me. I got new guys to be as good as I am in two weeks because my training style is so good that I was the number one guy that my bosses at Caterpillar sent new welders to.

So I do know a thing or two about training.

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One good thing that came out of all of this is that I'm now really good at making 90 degree turns, no matter how tight and miss the curb/poles every single time now.

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So, the trainer’s teaching technique was successful, yet you’re still rolling him under the bus. I’m kind of hoping he boots you off the truck and you have to take your chances with a new unknown trainer. Maybe you’ll get one who screams at you every time you’re about to do something wrong. Hate to break it to you, but this job has no hand holding and is really pretty unforgiving. It’s kind of pathetic it took you screwing up the same way three times before finally figuring it out, you’re going to have to learn faster than that when you’re on your own.

lol, bet you’re glad I’m not your trainer. 😄

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Paul J.'s Comment
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Yeah I guess that’s my welding background experience subconsciously guiding my actions.

A welding shop can also be a hazardous environment and safety is a huge deal in professional fabrication environments, especially at Caterpillar where I used to work.

Most professional welding jobs you will get fired if you don’t report a safety incident. And I have the attitude of risking getting fired for reporting myself for doing something stupid than risk the trouble I can get into for not reporting it which can lead to an even bigger accident that can lead to injury or death.

Nothing annoyed me more than macho super welders who behave as if safety is for sissies cuz they are always the ones who get injured lol

Truckers can be just as much of a roughneck as a welder and that macho thing is a safety hazard in my opinion.

Did you mention your pole hit when talking to the safety director? I’m a no harm/no foul type of guy, but admitting something like this to safety (after the trainer let it go) is a brilliant move on your part. Lol.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
andhe78's Comment
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I was a welder for 13years and was fabricating bulldozers for Caterpillar until the pandemic shut the factory down.

By the end of my welding career I was training newbies how to weld like me. I got new guys to be as good as I am in two weeks because my training style is so good that I was the number one guy that my bosses at Caterpillar sent new welders to.

So I do know a thing or two about training.

This is where your thought process is wrong about a trucking career-you are thinking a couple weeks of excellent training and you’ll be as good as a thirteen year veteran. Not the case here-this job throws new things at you all the time and you’re going to have to figure it out on your own (you’ve already alienated an experienced driver you could possibly call for help.). I’d almost guarantee even if you had a year with a trainer, you’ll run into an unknown problem your first couple days. Who’s gonna tell you what to do then?

Paul J.'s Comment
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YASSS

I took the CDL test this week and passed!

I got 100 percent on my pre trip (and I'm the only one who tested this week and didn't miss a single thing on the pre trip)

I got 100 percent on my maneuvers (straight forward stop, straight reverse stop, forward offset and reverse offset)

When it comes to the driving test, I had to do that twice. There was a handful of mistakes that I made that failed me.

But I had one more day of re-training with a DIFFERENT trainer...and regarding all the new things that he taught me he said the trainer at KRAFT training should have taught me that. I told him what happened between me and that trainer and even he was on my side and said he was sorry there wasn't enough KRAFT trainers for me to switch trainers.

When I went to re-take the driving part of the test yesterday, I got a 100 percent on that as well. I'm not going back to work until monday next week. Over the weekend, I got a bunch of online paperwork to get done and some training videos to do and then next week starts the process of setting me up with an OTR trainer, where I'll be team driving OTR with a trainer for X amount of miles. After that, I'll be OTR team driving with a fellow graduate for X amount of miles and after THAT I will be company driving by myself.

Starting monday next week, I'm on Wilson's payroll.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Paul J.'s Comment
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You're assuming a lot of things about some person on an internet forum that you don't know.

One, I don't think for a second that I can learn in a couple weeks what takes professional drivers years to learn.

Second, it's the trainer's responsibility to train his trainee how to be a truck driver. There's a difference between holding someone's hand and not giving that student the chance to figure stuff out...vs...not teaching anything at all and watching sports on your phone and listening it through your headset, while hiding that phone behind a clipboard so that the safety camera inside the cab doesn't catch you NOT TRAINING YOUR TRAINER....and that's what was going on. He was not training me at all.

Before I left for that two weeks of on the road training, the safety director TOLD me to call him if I run into this type of situation. So I did what I was TOLD. After he talked with my trainer, my trainer actually started training me. I still caught him a few times watching sports on his phone but I still learned what I had to learn from him (mostly). I still had to take the driving section of my CDL test twice in order to pass because of his lazy training.

The manager over the kraft training, the safety director, and another trainer that had to RE-TRAIN me was ALSO on my side and told me I was in the right and said the only thing I did wrong was not report him until in the middle of my training.

I think you're confusing my stance on "a trainer should actually be training me and not be doing the bare minimum at his job" with " a trainer should be holding my hand every step of the way and not allow me to not make any mistakes at all". Which would be another example of making assumptions and jumping to conclusions about some guy on an internet forum that you don't even know.

Also it's not uncommon for students who go through the OTR side of training here at Wilson Logistics, which is what I'm about to start, to change trainers two or three times. And that's either due to having a lazy trainer or personalities just not jiving with each other because both the trainer and trainee will be living out of the truck during the months worth of OTR training that we students go through after we pass our CDL tests.

As trainees, we are SPECIFICALLY TOLD by the SAFETY DIRECTOR to ask to change trainers if we feel we are not getting the training that we need, for whatever reason. And we are SPECIFICALLY TOLD that it is OUR responsibility to speak up in those situations because the safety director understands that not all trainers are GOOD trainers/have the ability to adapt their training style to the individual trainee's needs, etc.

Did I alienate my kraft trainer? Sure, maybe. But I don't get paid to give AF about what others think/feel about me. I'm getting paid to train to learn how to become the best and safest driver I can be before I start driving on my own. And if I gotta hurt somone's feelings so I can learn how to be a safer driver, that's what I'm gonna do. If that trainer doesn't like me anymore, that's HIS problem, not mine.

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I was a welder for 13years and was fabricating bulldozers for Caterpillar until the pandemic shut the factory down.

By the end of my welding career I was training newbies how to weld like me. I got new guys to be as good as I am in two weeks because my training style is so good that I was the number one guy that my bosses at Caterpillar sent new welders to.

So I do know a thing or two about training.

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This is where your thought process is wrong about a trucking career-you are thinking a couple weeks of excellent training and you’ll be as good as a thirteen year veteran. Not the case here-this job throws new things at you all the time and you’re going to have to figure it out on your own (you’ve already alienated an experienced driver you could possibly call for help.). I’d almost guarantee even if you had a year with a trainer, you’ll run into an unknown problem your first couple days. Who’s gonna tell you what to do then?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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