Log Book. HELP!!

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Casey M.'s Comment
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Hi, I'm Casey, is anyone able to put into crayon for how on earth the log book is done? I am new to the trucking world and am in need, apparently, of some help in figuring out how the log book along with the hours per day are done. I am a former flatbed tow truck driver and the log books that I am familiar with are completely different than what is used in the trucking industry. I have been on this sight for some time now getting ready to go take my class A with endorsements permit test and have hit a large road block no pun intened. I am taking my permit test this friday and need help getting the log book section straight. Any help on that would be greatly appriciated.

6 string rhythm's Comment
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Morning Casey, Are you saying you need help with the study guide material for the logbook section on this website?

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Hey, I see you're doing the Logbook Rules section of the High Road Training Program. You're right where you need to be. Keep pushing through it. That's by far the toughest section of our program and it frustrates everyone because the logbook rules are so complex.

Why don't you start over in that section. You can do the pages in any order you like throughout the program so it's no problem. It will keep feeding you review questions and you're going to understand it a whole lot better real soon.

Trust me....a lot of people shy away from that section and it's taking money straight out of their pocketbooks for years to come. They don't know the rules as well as they should so they don't know how to utilize their time as efficiently as those who do. So the pain you endure learning the rules will become cash in your wallet for years to come. It's well worth it.

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CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Casey M.'s Comment
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Thank you for your rapid response. To answer 6 String first, yes. I understand that for most people this may be forward enough. However for myself, unfortunately when it comes to paperwork I need things explained to me via floresent crayon. Now I can drive anything with wheels and most things without but when it comes to paperwork it is like teaching a kindergardener. Now once I have it I am good. It is just getting to that point.

Brett, Thank you, retracing your steps is always good advice. I will do my best at figuring this out. If there are any other tips to understanding the log book and the 8 day week and time restarts please feel free. By the way the site is wonderful. Just paperwork and I have never gotten along.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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paperwork and I have never gotten along

That's easy to understand but you'll have this soon enough. It really does take a lot of repetition. Not only do you have to memorize a lot of different rules and exceptions but you have to figure out how to make them all work together. Memorizing is one thing.....that alone takes repetition. But actually understanding the rules well enough to use them day to day means learning them at a higher level.....which takes more repetition.

So just stick with it and look at it like being just a matter of time. When you've put in enough time you'll understand them. It doesn't make any difference how long it takes as long as you get there. Once you know the rules well you'll always know em and they'll seem simple to use. In fact, you'll look back on this right now and wonder, "What the heck did I think was so confusing about that? It's not that bad."

You'll see!

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Casey M.'s Comment
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Hi Brett, Thank you, I went back and retraced my steps in the log book section and I actually did figure it out. WOW. I feel like a putts. It really was very simple. So simple in fact, I read way to much into it and after taking a second look at it; was just very simple. again thank you and I will be finished some time today.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Hi Brett, Thank you, I went back and retraced my steps in the log book section and I actually did figure it out. WOW. I feel like a putts. It really was very simple. So simple in fact, I read way to much into it and after taking a second look at it; was just very simple. again thank you and I will be finished some time today.

Awesome!!! Yeah, it just takes repetition....tons of it. And the problem with trying to implement the rules in real life is if you misunderstand even one of them you're going to screw the whole thing up. So you really have to understand each rule well before you can put them together and apply them to real life. There's no shortcut to getting there. You just have to keep plowing through it until the lightbulb comes on....and it will.

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OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Phil C.'s Comment
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Hi Brett, Thank you, I went back and retraced my steps in the log book section and I actually did figure it out. WOW. I feel like a putts. It really was very simple. So simple in fact, I read way to much into it and after taking a second look at it; was just very simple. again thank you and I will be finished some time today.

UGH! One of my biggest problems when test taking is I read way to much into the question so I end up second guessing myself and getting the wrong answer. Ive learned to go with my first gut instinct since it seems my brain knows the right answer right off, but then I overdo it and read more into it that's not there. I make a simple thing more complicated and confuse myself. So I have to be very aware of this and try and go with my first thought and stop at that. Good luck to you~!

Phil

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