Drug Testing Before Trucking School

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Scar-Baby's Comment
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So I recently got a Pre-hire from Schnieder. Towards the End of May couldnt take the abuse of my x-boyfriend and was working on getting out. Got out of there April 1st and away. Between then I gave in and smoked some pot for maybe 3-4 weeks. I messed up BIG I know. But I am suppose to start school end of May Begining of June. 3 Week course. How SOL am i? Save your time i was a IDIOT! BUT dont judge me till you know my story, and you would cry!

Thank you

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Brian M.'s Comment
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Great Answer!

The good news is right now you haven't had a bad prehires drug test yet. I don't want to sound critical but if you left on April 1st and smoked for 3 or 4 weeks you haven't been clean for very long. If you really want this it can wait till your in a better place. Once you fail a drug test for the dot it is almost impossible to be hired by any trucking firm. Time is the only real remedy for your situation. In the mean time study for you permit and get clean.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Prehire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Prehires:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Daniel's Comment
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Great Answer!

I'm confused I was under the impression that urine is 30 day back test and hair folicle go's back 90 days . Can anyone clarify these with any certainty . Or just about or maybe this many days .

If it go's back 6 months 180 days Then this may be helpful to know but it all seems very speculative on a thing that could affect your entire truck ing career .

Please attempt to clarify

Drug testing is a science, and relies on chemistry & biology.

There is no magic number. There are a lot of factors (including statistical probability). Your fat content, metabolism, genetics (luck!), diet, quantity & "quality" of drug, the testing facilities tools & technicians (technology.. Luck again). This is not an all inclusive list. Just a reality check.

I've personally known persons who have 20% body fat, mild activity/metabolism, smoke weed daily (including up to the previous 24hrs of test), and show a false negative on a UA drug test.

And for the record: A hair folicile test has a chance of going back ~90 days. A small chance. In that small chance: The idea that the exact hair they test has it, is even smaller.

Nobody seems to have the ability to do research, mathematics, or any kind of thinking these days. Hair folicle tests are not magic. It may potentially be more accurate (after collecting millions of hair folicle samples) than a UA; But there is never a guarantee it'll be 100% accurate.

Ergo: FALSE positive/negative.

J. Snow's Comment
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Delay the start of your training until you KNOW you will be clean. Otherwise there is just no point of going. If you fail, you'll be done in this business before you start. Schneider does hair follicle testing. That generally goes back 90 days. Other companies only do UA testing. But the thing is you gotta be clean before you even start this biz-and stay that way. If you can't don't bother. :)

J. Snow's Comment
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Rob T.'s Comment
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I would avoid going to schneider, as is appears they do a hair follicle test. There was a thread on here that listed companies that do only urine, hair or both. Id look at the thread Hair or Urine.. Perhaps you could apply to a company that only does urine for the time being, then go to schneider after a year if thats who you wanna drive for. Not gonna judge you, just be sure your done with the drugs cuz you will be out of the industry possibly forever if you test positive. I think they test hair from the past 6 months, but i could be mistaken.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Scar-Baby's Comment
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Delay the start of your training until you KNOW you will be clean. Otherwise there is just no point of going. If you fail, you'll be done in this business before you start. Schneider does hair follicle testing. That generally goes back 90 days. Other companies only do UA testing. But the thing is you gotta be clean before you even start this biz-and stay that way. If you can't don't bother. :)

Trust me I can stay clean i just fell along the way. And looking back at how its affecting me. Im kicking myself really hard. Im just trying to put everthing behind me and start fresh. I am worried because ive read they go back 6-12 months. I want this life and will do anything to get it and not loose it! XD This is the begginning of the rest of my life. I will not give up n not fall back to temptation. :D

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Scar-Baby's Comment
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I would avoid going to schneider, as is appears they do a hair follicle test. There was a thread on here that listed companies that do only urine, hair or both. Id look at the thread Hair or Urine.. Perhaps you could apply to a company that only does urine for the time being, then go to schneider after a year if thats who you wanna drive for. Not gonna judge you, just be sure your done with the drugs cuz you will be out of the industry possibly forever if you test positive. I think they test hair from the past 6 months, but i could be mistaken.

See ive had a rough path and made some mistakes. Im not perfect. I have a domestic violence misdemeanor From 2012 and its a misdemenor. I got tired of being a rag doll. Then this x wouldnt let me work so there lies my problem. I just need a fresh start.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

J. Snow's Comment
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You need 45 days clean to be sure you pass your UA. Plain and simple. If you got one pre-hire , you can get others. Just keep at it. I smoked to mitigate pain because of knee surgeries. So I had to wait. Everyone has their own story and it's just that-yours. Good luck.

:)

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Scar-Baby's Comment
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You need 45 days clean to be sure you pass your UA. Plain and simple. If you got one pre-hire , you can get others. Just keep at it. I smoked to mitigate pain because of knee surgeries. So I had to wait. Everyone has their own story and it's just that-yours. Good luck.

:)

That is true but i dont know who My background report comes back with NOTHING. Im not asking questions. But CREngland (up theres) wont hire me even though Nothing comes back on my record. (Sorry was taking care of the Chickens.) And Prime wont take me because of no work history. I am just at a loss. I have heard bad about Swift. Everyone says no dont go with them. I'm just about to go and apply Everywhere and just take what i can get.

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Scar-Baby's Comment
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Also once I got out of School i was thinking to pay out of my pocket a hair folical to Insure i was clean....Thoughts?confused.gif

J. Snow's Comment
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I'm going to Swift tomorrow to start orientation this week. Every company is different and every person is different, so don't pay much attention to what others have said. And let me say-that I picked Swift for family reasons and based on what I've read about them. LOL. They were on my short list with Werner and Stevens. Not a last resort by any means.

I did school on my own. The first thing they did was run the 'standard' background check. If there was something bad on it we would have ended our trip right then. Also-don't rely on the drug tests you can get at Walmart/CVS. They will show a negative result but the test used by the lab could still show positive. The ONLY way to be sure is to be clean for the required amount of time. I think the best thing you can do is get some clean time under your belt, then you just have to deal with the record-that may or may not be an issue. Tackle one issue at a time.

Just

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