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Jon M.'s Comment
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Hello all,

My name is Jon. I am a Navy veteran and lately have been very interested in going into truck driving. I live in the Orlando FL area. I recently went over to TDI school in Sanford FL and got some information with them. They are a 3 week course and seem like a very high tuition (which im not to worried about because my veteran benefits will be paying for it). First of all I would like to ask about job opportunities in Florida. I have been told that Florida is one of the worse places to find driving jobs in the country but do not know the truth behind that. Second question is about the schooling. Is going through a private school like this the better way to go? I have money saved and money that could support me and my family while I go off to school if I chose to do something like Prime, Swift, etc. My next question is about these schools in general (prime, swift). Lets say that I get accepted to go to one of these schools, I am a little confused on terminal situations and getting home time. Im not worried about the home time in itself, but my question is that, if I join one of these schools and go to another state to do the schooling, do they match me with a job that will near my home in Orlando? I am sorry if the questions are a little confusing. Basically my main question is if I went to a school such as prime or swift, once you graduate from these school do they put you out of places near your home? Thanks for your time everyone.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Old School's Comment
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Hello Jon, and welcome aboard!

First of all I would like to ask about job opportunities in Florida. I have been told that Florida is one of the worse places to find driving jobs in the country but do not know the truth behind that.

Jon, Florida has been notoriously a little tough for over the road truck driving jobs, but it is not impossible. We have several drivers in here who are from Florida and they are doing just fine. The problems with Florida stem from the fact that the state just doesn't produce a lot of manufactured goods. There is, of course a lively citrus industry there and some Floral business and of course there are quite a few fish loads coming out of there. What happens is that when people get their trucks down into that area they are likely to take just about any load they can get to get back out the state, thus the freight rates are really low in that state. I have a dedicated customer in Miami, so I'm down there fairly often - I do see quite a few Prime trucks in the state though.

Second question is about the schooling. Is going through a private school like this the better way to go?

Jon, I don't consider one better than the other. Look at it this way because in reality this is how it will work itself out. It doesn't matter whether the school is private or Company-Sponsored Training , they both do the same thing - they get you just far enough along to get your CDL. They don't make a professional truck driver out of you. The next step in your career will depend on your willingness to stick it out for a year somewhere until you can go through enough of the daily experiences that will help to transform you into a professional who is just starting to scratch the surface of knowing what he is doing. If you take the company route they will have you a job waiting for you at the end of your schooling, and you will give it your best shot for that first year. If you go to a private school, you will then need to start trying to find someone who is willing to five a green-horn a shot, and then you will give it your best shot for that first year. It's that simple. I went to a private school, and had some issues trying to land a job that completely blind-sided me. There is some very good things about the Company-Sponsored Training that can possibly relieve some of the stress of getting started. It's your call, but remember that either way you go the important thing is that you have got to make a commitment for that first year. Don't let that idea of committing yourself to an employer snag you up - you will need to do that anyway.

Lets say that I get accepted to go to one of these schools, I am a little confused on terminal situations and getting home time. Im not worried about the home time in itself, but my question is that, if I join one of these schools and go to another state to do the schooling, do they match me with a job that will near my home in Orlando?

Okay Jon, my trucking jobs have usually been dispatched from a terminal that was more than a thousand miles away from my house. Proximity to your home base is not important or beneficial. You are going to be an Over the Road Driver, which more than likely means you will be travelling the whole country. Now if they decide they have a regional opportunity for you, then that region will be probably in a six to eight state region including Florida. They will not put you in a "Western Eleven" region if you live in Florida.

Home time is this simple. You inform your dispatcher ahead of time (a week or two) when you would like to go home, and they will find you a load that gets you near your home-town close to the time you are wanting to get there. Here's an example: I was one time in upstate New York, and had one of my daughters riding along with me. She got an unexpected phone call that some company she had applied with wanted her to come in for an interview. I sent an e-mail to my dispatcher, let him know the situation, and requested a load to Texas so that I could try and get her home as soon as possible. He found me a load to Dallas, Tx, and I had her home in three days. When ever you need to go home for your home time, it won't matter if your dispatcher is sitting in a cubicle in Oregon, he will find you something that goes down to Florida, or south Georgia, or just as close as he can get you to your home. You will make that delivery and then you will drive home from there. If you can't park your truck at home, you will need to find someplace near by like a truck stop or a Wal-Mart or something like that where you can get permission to park for a few days.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

Over The Road:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Company-sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Terry C.'s Comment
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Hello Jon and thank you for your service!!! You've heard right about Florida HOWEVER you live near one of the best areas for trucking jobs in the state. There are quite a few LTL our local companies to hire on with in the Orlando area. Personally I would always recommend getting a local job over OTR any day. Especially if you have family or a relationship. You've been in the service and are used to many months away from home already do are you willing to continue doing that as an OTR driver??

Next about private schooling vs company sponsored programs. Since you have a GI bill working for you I personally would recommend private schooling over company sponsored simply because you have a better chance of a year long commitment like you WILL have no matter what company sponsored program you go thru. TDI has job placement as well as another school not far from you in Lakeland and that school is Carrer Tech. I went thru CT for a refresher last year and would recommend them. If the same recruiter for CT is still there his name is David Lamb and is an ex marine and goes the extra mile for us vets. They also have job placement but maybe not as many local jobs that TDI has from what I found last year.

Next, call around to local companies around Orlando or OTR companies anywhere and ask them about jobs. Most companies will reimburse the cost of private school with a 1 year commitment but since uncle Sam is footing the bill yay should be a moot point. In Orlando, just to name a few that I know of, you have FedEx, con-way, RL carriers, Avert express, UPS, Sysco, US Foods all as LTL or local companies. Call them and ask about getting hired right out of driving school. And if you go private school plan on going to work directly after getting your CDL. If you wait more than a couple of months you WILL have an extremely difficult time finding placement anywhere. Trust me, find an interested company first, verify they hire out of school and get a pre hire and go. Don't get a CDL and sit on it.

A few OTR companies that either have small terminals or drop yards or hire out of Florida are: Knight transport has regional/dedicated runs near Orlando. I want to say the terminal is in Lakeland but I'm not sure. Also Werner has regional positions out of the Orlando area but will most likely tell you you'll have to go OTR for several months before a position opens up because they fill fast and/or have a waiting list to get on them. Prime has a drop yard in Auburndale and one of their customers is coca-cola out of Auburndale as well. I think all of the mega-carriers will hire out of Orlando.

You live in a good area for trucking even though you're in Florida. I seriously don't think you'll have a problem finding work. My last bit of advice is stay away from long term commitments if you can. That way you keep your options open but the flip side to that is don't job hop. That will hurt you down the road.

Good luck and welcome!!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Dedicated Run:

A driver or carrier who transports cargo between regular, prescribed routes. Normally it means a driver will be dedicated to working for one particular customer like Walmart or Home Depot and they will only haul freight for that customer. You'll often hear drivers say something like, "I'm on the Walmart dedicated account."

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Pre Hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Johnathan S.'s Comment
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I have a quick question general knowledge is driving safley n rules n reglations correct ?

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