SWIFT TRAINING NOT SO SWIFT

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Eckoh's Comment
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Most CDL schools both Private and Company's goal is to get you your CDL. Most of the real training doesn't began until you hit the road.

this exactly. None of the schools are doing to teach you to be a driver, they will teach you have to pass the CDL exam

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Greenhorn Trucker's Comment
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Great Answer!

I am sure I will get flack but accidents happen in all companies, however the more trucks you have the more likelihood it will be more noticeable.

Prime trucking accident crash Prime truck rolled over on its side being towed upright

Knight trucking accident crash red Knight truck with a smashed cab

Werner trucking accident crash blue Werner Enterprises truck smashed into the side of another trailer on icy slippery snowy roads

Schneider trucking accident crash orange Schneider truck gets trailer stuck under low bridge

CRST trucking accident crash tan CRST truck rolled over

FedEx trucking accident FedEx truck rolled over on the road

D B.'s Comment
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Let's pretend you run a YouTube channel. You have 50+ hours dash cam footage of truckers driving safely and making almost no mistakes. You also have 10 seconds of a trucker crashing into something of flipping their trailer. Which video are you going to upload to entertain your subscribers?

WATERBOY's Comment
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Hi my name is andy and i just wanted to say you cant goby what you hear all the time...allthough swift got a bad rap there are some people that would work no where els thay do have great drivers there you make it what you want out of it..its all about you and what you want after all youre the driver or soon to be..

C. S.'s Comment
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Drivers that I know personally mentioned how unskilled they have witnessed SWIFT drivers to be.

Unskilled Swift driver checking in here. You hit the nail right on the head Misty, us Swifties are some of the worst drivers on the road. Take me for example: no accidents or incidents, no late pickups or deliveries, no tickets or violations, and over a dozen clean DOT inspections between me and my fiance in the last six months. It's hard to argue with data like that. If you work for Swift, you're incompetent and dangerous and most likely found your CDL in a box of popcorn.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Great Answer!

I meant to delete this thread yesterday and forgot. Now I'm pretty annoyed with myself for doing that because Misty wasted no time spewing as much criticism as she could squeeze into one evening and you guys put so much time and effort helping her understand things a little better.

Certain swift schools are run very well others are run like crap. Some were run so bad there was a federal investigation that shut at least one school down for a long time due to unsafe practices but that is in the past.

Technically they didn't fine Swift for 'running a school so poorly'. The fined them for shortening the driving portion of the CDL exam. And no criminal charges of any sort were filed.

Many CDL Students Unsatisfied With Swift Settlement:

Documents were seized, and the investigation reportedly centered on the illegal issuance of CDLs after the Tennessee Department of Safety said CDL skills tests hadn’t been properly administered.

Although no criminal charges emerged, Tennessee announced in 2009 that drivers who obtained a CDL through an unnamed third-party tester in Tennessee between May 2005 and January 2008 would be required to do a complete retest.

Attorneys file lawsuit against Tennessee, Swift over yanked CDLs:

“Former drivers said, ‘We had so many people we had to cut corners. We didn’t take the state’s 45-minute route. We did a five-minute route and came back,'” Lead attorney Frank Watson III, of Watson & Burns, said.

I really hate that I have to spend my time defending companies from ignorant statements. Please get the facts straight before issuing criticisms. We can discuss anything you guys like about any company out there but you have to present facts, not just throw broad-sweeping, uninformed criticisms.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Eckoh's Comment
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The Millington school was bribing the dmv testers to pass everyone. Some 6000 cdls were suspect and had to be retested and over half failed. The school was closed and all the other schools were investigated.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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The Millington school was bribing the dmv testers to pass everyone. Some 6000 cdls were suspect and had to be retested and over half failed. The school was closed and all the other schools were investigated.

I didn't see bribery mentioned anywhere. They said there were no charges filed. I would think bribery would bring legal charges, would it not?

I also didn't see any mention that half of the drivers failed the test. Considering the overwhelming majority of these drivers were experienced drivers by the time the lawsuits had gone through and Tennessee revoked their driving privileges it seems unlikely half would fail.

Can you validate any of these claims like with an article somewhere? I'm happy to discuss facts day and night but debating rumors or heresy isn't really how I'd like to approach this.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Gladiator 76's Comment
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I read the articles listed with this thread and it seems like the big winner in this law suit was the attorney's.....why doesn't that surprise me? While it seems "more likely than not" that something shady was going on at that school near Memphis, I didn't see where anyone was actually prosecuted and the state of Tennessee actually publicly retracted some of their initial statements. I would hope I'm never convicted of anything because it's "more likely than not" I did something illegal. I do feel bad for anyone who had to retest for something somebody else did.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I read the articles listed with this thread and it seems like the big winner in this law suit was the attorney's.....why doesn't that surprise me? While it seems "more likely than not" that something shady was going on at that school near Memphis, I didn't see where anyone was actually prosecuted and the state of Tennessee actually publicly retracted some of their initial statements. I would hope I'm never convicted of anything because it's "more likely than not" I did something illegal. I do feel bad for anyone who had to retest for something somebody else did.

I agree with every word of that.

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