You Run Out Of Time On 14 Hr. What Do You Do?

Park on the street if you can (usually won't trip the elogs if you're quick). If you can't, and this is something I've done, go ahead and drive to the nearest safe place to park knowing the elogs will throw you a violation and call your company to explain. They can sometimes remove the violation on their end.

Sorry, I messed up on a previous post and didn't include the quote.

If a company removes a violation, is that legal (what authority does a company have to remove a violation)? Isn't the DOT the only one who can excuse a violation?

Different companies track hour violations differently, Prime for example uses a point system. Im actually not sure how they discipline folks that get too many points. In any event what your company does will NOT protect you from DOT.

G-town, that's probably the first time I've ever heard that phrase used in earnest, but no worries either way.

I read through that thread before I posted here, and I might join the discussion. I'm about to hit the hay after a long day driving, but off the cuff:

Cops write bogus tickets all the time, every day there are tickets dismissed in courts, and many more that probably stand due to the inconvenience in fighting them (particularly for OTR drivers). Maybe the cop misunderstood the regulation, or maybe WV has regulations that differ from fmcsa (not sure if that's possible). How many cops understand the 8/2 split and could find a violation of it in a paper log? Not many i would wager.

Regardless, the Prime driver was pulled over for speeding. There is a very small chance you are going to pull a log inspection in the short time you are using personal conveyance. Any Prime log audits are going to come from MO, who I am fairly certain blessed our current line 5 rules. The most likely case you are going to be "caught" with line 5 on an inspection is getting an inspection through a scale or being pulled over for something else.

My wife and I have 600,000 some odd miles in a Prime truck, we have received 5 total inspections. 3 when my wife was pulled over (a bogus warning, a valid warning due to an improper repair at a t/a, and a valid ticket for running a scale), and 2 random inspections. 4 times once they saw we had e-logs they didn't bother looking at them. 1 of my randoms the lady had me flip through the graphs for the last 7 days. It's just not very likely you will even be asked about line 5 here.

We are actually headed to Springfield right now to get the truck serviced. If we are still there during banking hours I'm going to try to catch Wendee, my log auditor, and ask her about this. Then I can probably offer more regarding this subject.

Speaking of which, I would encourage Turtle, Rainy, or any other Prime drivers that are skeptical of using line 5 to speak to their log auditor about it. I've visited Wendee a couple times in person, and have called her once, and she has always been receptive to questions. They want us legal and following the rules. Really that goes for all the department's here, whether it's permits, safety, dispatch, whomever.

Made my own forum but wanted to post here as well so say your at a reciever and run it of hours in your 14 hour day and you are there waiting another 3-4 hours off duty but your supposed to take a 34 reset when done. I know I could pc to where I need to go to take my 34 but if do so I remain off duty and my 34 reset has started back when I was still technically working at the reciever getting unloaded….. so what can I do to make sure I get my full 34 reset? Can I log a post trip once parked with no time left on clock? If so will that start my 34 reset after that’s complete? or will my 34 reset still have been started while I was getting unloaded?

PC home, park then log “on-duty” for 5-10 min to perform your post trip. Log-off duty once completed. You’ll get your full 34 at home.

Thank you I wasn’t sure if I could log post trip with no time left on clock. so I didn’t about a week ago and had to spend 6 hours of my 34 reset technically still working

PC home, park then log “on-duty” for 5-10 min to perform your post trip. Log-off duty once completed. You’ll get your full 34 at home.

As long as you do not drive, you can perform other work beyond both the daily 14 and weekly 70.

I suggest investing some time reading and studying this link:

Learn The Logbook Rules (HOS)

I was taught to personal convey to the nearest reasonable parking availability or do an 8/2 split if the facility won't allow for a 10 hour restart. But I am greener than fresh sod at your local Home Depot so take my advice with a couple grains of salt.