Definitely won't be hearing from me, that sounds like such an awful investment to make. I lost my appetite for tea just by reading that.
Definitely won't be hearing from me, that sounds like such an awful investment to make. I lost my appetite for tea just by reading that.
Actually, unless you're bound and determined to run California, a glider kit isn't a bad way to go. A good friend has a 2014 Pete 379 Glider. He's running a Cat 6NZ in it that still has around 300,000 left on the warranty. He has no DEF, no regen issues to tangle with, gets around 6.3 mpg and it cost him less than a new 379 with all the new style crap on it.
Definitely won't be hearing from me, that sounds like such an awful investment to make. I lost my appetite for tea just by reading that.
Actually, unless you're bound and determined to run California, a glider kit isn't a bad way to go. A good friend has a 2014 Pete 379 Glider. He's running a Cat 6NZ in it that still has around 300,000 left on the warranty. He has no DEF, no regen issues to tangle with, gets around 6.3 mpg and it cost him less than a new 379 with all the new style crap on it.
That right there sir downright scares me. I don't see any room for profit with that kind of extremely low MPG.
These glider trucks are a giant risk. They are older engines and are even more prone to having major breakdowns.
Definitely won't be hearing from me, that sounds like such an awful investment to make. I lost my appetite for tea just by reading that.
Actually, unless you're bound and determined to run California, a glider kit isn't a bad way to go. A good friend has a 2014 Pete 379 Glider. He's running a Cat 6NZ in it that still has around 300,000 left on the warranty. He has no DEF, no regen issues to tangle with, gets around 6.3 mpg and it cost him less than a new 379 with all the new style crap on it.
That right there sir downright scares me. I don't see any room for profit with that kind of extremely low MPG.
These glider trucks are a giant risk. They are older engines and are even more prone to having major breakdowns.
Actually, for a long-nose Pete, that's damn good. Those bad boys tend to average in the low-to-mid 5's, especially with the big Cat motors.
Exactly and the 6NZ is a very reliable motor. Much more so than the newer Cummins
Now that I'm shut down for the evening, I can go into a more in depth response.
First off, if I were to purchase a truck, it would never be a fleet truck. Now, that being said, there's absolutely nothing wrong with glider kits. Companies like Schneider, NFI and a few others ordered thousands of these because they could avoid the issues plaguing regen systems and DEF equipped trucks.
The main issue came with the state of California. Because those trucks aren't allowed, California wasn't getting revenue from the miles those units would be providing by hauling freight, along with the fuel taxes. After some serious complaining by California, the feds stepped in and stopped allowing national fleets to purchase more glider kits.
Gliders, new purchased ones are Not running old worn out engines. This is one of the rare times where I can say Daniel, you're wrong. The engines are pre - DEF engines which are completely rebuilt according to factory specs using factory parts. The block and head are examined and everything else is replaced and upgraded. It's because of that, those engines receive the same factory warranty as a brand new one.
In the case of my buddy Roger, his engine was a complete rebuild with a 5/500,000 warranty. It's 550 hp with almost 1900 ft/lb of torque. He has been running for Hall Brothers since 1996 and runs the corridor from Ohio east. He rarely hauls less than 35,000 and if you've run that region, you know that heavy loads and the hills take their toll on fuel economy. I can assure you that if you took your truck with his loads, you'd be hard pressed to do much better mileage wise. The big difference being that he will walk you on every hill. Being an owner operator , he also gets a pretty good fuel surcharge on all his loads so the fuel economy isn't as important if he's a bit lower than another type of truck.
All in all, a glider is nothing to be afraid of and will actually save you money in unnecessary repairs.
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A new glider truck might be a deal. However as I read it these are glider trucks from 2011-2012. The "Transmission: Eaton 10 Speed Mileage Range: 200,000 to 600,000" sounds kind of risky, and they don't say how many miles are on the engine. To me it reads as these are used glider trucks that Schneider is purging from their fleet. 430 HP also sounds pretty weak to my Ive been running a Cummins ISX with 600hp, 600 brake HP and 185 ft/lbs of torque. I'm with Daniel, no thanks.
Phil
Grr 1850 ft/lbs torque
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Schneider Fleet Sales is now selling 2011 and 2012 Freightliner Columbia - Glider Kit trucks from our fleet. These trucks were specifically built for Schneider, ran in our fleet, maintained by Schneider and now are coming available for sale. The following is an informational guide to the Glider Trucks that we have for sale now!
WHAT IS A GLIDER TRUCK? A glider truck is a new truck (new cab, frame, steer axle, etc.) special ordered from the factory without an engine, transmission, drive train, suspension or rear axles. A donor truck is used to supply the engine, transmission, driveline and rear axles which are rebuilt or refurbished as part of the build of the Glider Kit Truck. Schneider Glider Kits receive a factory remanufactured engine and the remainder of the power train was inspected and repaired as required at the time of the Glider build.
WHO IS THE MANUFACTURER? Freightliner is the manufacturer of the Glider assembly, the Glider vehicles themselves were assembled and parts rebuild/refurbished by Clarke Power, Inc. at their Memphis, TN, Indianapolis, IN, Wentzville, MO, Greensboro, NC and Jackson, MS locations. Clarke Power Services (Founded in 1964) is a commercial vehicle maintenance provider with an outstanding 50+ year track record of delivering value to the transportation and service industries.
WHAT MODEL YEAR IS THE TRUCK? The Glider Kit trucks we are selling are 2011 and 2012 Model Year and it is indicated on the Certificate of Title. ARE THERE LIMITATIONS ON THIS TRUCK? These trucks cannot enter California due to California Air Resources Board (CARB) laws.
WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF A GLIDER TRUCK? Brand New Cab/Frame at Build Factory Remanufactured Engine A lower part costs & availability on Detroit Series 60 engine Available Mechanics who can work on the Detroit Series S60 engine. Lower mechanic / maintenance Costs No EGR, DPF or SCR Technology Better MPG (same as 2010 model trucks) Lighter Weight (500-1000 lbs lighter) No DEF (no added cost or weight) Detroit Diesel Series 60 engine with proven efficiency, reliability & durability All Glider Trucks have a new Annual Vehicle Inspection completed at the time of out-processing.
2011 & 2012 FREIGHTLINER COLUMBIA GLIDER KIT SPECIFICATIONS Make / Model: Freightliner Columbia – Glider Kit Engine: Detroit Series 60, Remanufactured Engine – 430 HP / 12.7 L Transmission: Eaton 10 Speed Mileage Range: 200,000 to 600,000 Sleeper / Types: 70” Double Bunk, 58” Single Bunk, 48” Single Bunk & Day Cab Air Conditioning: Yes Cab Heater: Espar Airtronic D2 – Available on most units Colors: White, Orange, Champaign & Black Empty Weight: Approximately 18,000 lbs Engine Brake: Yes Gear Ratio: 2.64 Interior: Grey Suspension: Air Tank Capacity: 200 gallon (2 @ 100 gallon tanks on most trucks) Tire Size: 295 75R 22.5 Wheel Base: 226 Wheels: Steel / Aluminum (some trucks may have steel) / Disc
DONOR COMPONENTS REFURBISHED OR REBUILT The following donor components are inspected, rebuilt or refurbished prior to assembly and are certified at the time of the build. Engine: The engine is removed from the donor truck and sent to Detroit Diesel as an engine core. A complete remanufactured engine is received and installed in the glider. Transmission: The transmission is inspected to ensure it shifts through all gears smoothly, stays in gear during operation, there is no excessive noise and vibration. It is removed from the donor to be used in the glider if it passes. Input bearing plate inspected and replaced if necessary Input shaft inspected and replaced if necessary All New gaskets installed Painted Clutch bell housing removed, bolts and studs replaced and installed with new gasket All Clutches replaced with new Rear Axles: The drive axles are inspected for noise or grinding from the differentials, vibration, and proper function of the differential lock before it is removed from the donor. Fluid drained and checked for abnormal debris Axel and pinion seals replaced Inspected for operable power divider shifter mechanism Driveline: The drivelines are inspected for excessive vibration or noise before being removed from donor for use. Inspected for seal grooves and replaced if grooving excessive Inspected for stripped bolt holes or egg shaped holes All U-joints replaced with new All Carrier Bearings replaced with new
For more information please call 1-800-635-9801 or visit us online at www.schneidertrucks.com. We look forward to hearing from you!
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