Question On Log Books

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Joe S. (a.k.a. The Blue 's Comment
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I just started the log book section of the High Road program. And I am going to have tons of questions I think. It is already kicking my ..... rofl-3.gif

I didn't realize how much of a difference there is from the motor coach industry to the trucking industry.

First question. I know the log books in the program are examples, but nothing is logged for pretrip or post trip. Is that not required in trucking?

In the motor coach industry we are suppose to log EVERY stop we made. We were to log a 15 minute pretrip and a 15 minute post trip. Log all stops (some didn't get logged to cover your allowed time rofl-3.gif )

Even if we were dead heading and stopped for a short bathroom break, we were still suppose to log 15 minutes off duty. And log at least 15 minutes at each stop. That really shortens your hours by the end of the day.

We are not using electronic logs at my company yet.

DOT regs say you stop to check your load the first 25 miles then every 150 miles or 3 hours everyday. Is that logged on your Qualcomm?

Time in the sleeper berth. When you log into the sleeper berth , do you actually spend the whole time in the sleeper berth? If you leave it for a meal, do you have to change it to off duty?

This is the first of many questions I am sure. sorry.gif

Keep it safe out there. Joe S

Electronic Logs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Kevin B.'s Comment
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I just started the log book section of the High Road program. And I am going to have tons of questions I think. It is already kicking my ..... rofl-3.gif

I wish you well on this section it kicked my arse too!

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Time in the sleeper berth. When you log into the sleeper berth , do you actually spend the whole time in the sleeper berth? If you leave it for a meal, do you have to change it to off duty?

No, you don't have to change it. There's a lot of "common sense" or "good enough" type of logging that goes on. For instance, when you get to a customer you generally go to sleeper berth. Well some of the time you're inside doing paperwork stuff or you might walk next door to get a bite to eat but you don't bother changing anything, ya know what I mean?

And you'll log a 15 minute pre-trip every morning, but not every stop.

I'm going to let the other guys answer the specifics about Qualcomm because believe it or not I never had to use electronic logs my entire career so I don't know some of the specifics of how those systems work. And of course a lot of companies have some of their own policies mixed into their electronic logging system so some things will change a bit from company to company.

Electronic Logs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Joe S. (a.k.a. The Blue 's Comment
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you don't bother changing anything, ya know what I mean

I got it totally.

Save time where you can. Time is money. smile.gif

Tim D.'s Comment
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I have a log book question logged in a stop then got to next stop forgot to log that in got stopped dot hour later got a ticket isnt there a 2-3 hour grace on entries

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Robert B. (The Dragon) ye's Comment
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I have a log book question logged in a stop then got to next stop forgot to log that in got stopped dot hour later got a ticket isnt there a 2-3 hour grace on entries

Unfortunately no. They're really cracking down on guys who want paper. The only leniency I know of first hand is when running through the night and carry into the following day after midnight. I had not filled out for the current day at 0130 nor done my recap from the previous day. The officer was pretty understanding though because in this case, my day started at 2130 and I had not pulled over yet.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

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