Permit Versus CDL Exam

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RebelliousVamp 's Comment
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I already went to the RMV and got my permit after taking the test. When I go back to get my CDL , do I have to take ANOTHER test on the computer, or is this all over with? Do I only have to do the road test with the trooper after I'm done with my classes?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Sunrise Driver's Comment
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Once you've obtained a permit you don't have to take anymore written test, unless you decide to get endorsements later.

Now you will have to complete pre trip, back maneuvers, and road test.

Best of luck!! :-)

RebelliousVamp 's Comment
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Thank god.

Phox's Comment
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Once you've obtained a permit you don't have to take anymore written test, unless you decide to get endorsements later.

Now you will have to complete pre trip, back maneuvers, and road test.

Best of luck!! :-)

ugggghhh I think that is state specific.

In Texas just to get the per mit you have to take a permit test and combination vehicles test. Then for CDL you have to do air brakes, pre trip and general knowledge tests plus an actual driving test.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Combination Vehicle:

A vehicle with two separate parts - the power unit (tractor) and the trailer. Tractor-trailers are considered combination vehicles.

Steve J.'s Comment
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The dmv tests were the easy part the backing/road skills and memorizing the pretrip is the hard part

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Robert B. (The Dragon) ye's Comment
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Be sure to pay special attention on the 4 point brake check. It is very specific and must be performed as your state requires and it is an auto fail item. It would be a shame to go through the entire pre trip only to fail right there at the end.

G-Town's Comment
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Be sure to pay special attention on the 4 point brake check. It is very specific and must be performed as your state requires and it is an auto fail item. It would be a shame to go through the entire pre trip only to fail right there at the end.

Great point Dragon. Definitely RV and any student reading this ...memorize the in-cab air-brake check verbatim and in the exact order.

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Be sure to pay special attention on the 4 point brake check. It is very specific and must be performed as your state requires and it is an auto fail item. It would be a shame to go through the entire pre trip only to fail right there at the end.

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Great point Dragon. Definitely RV and any student reading this ...memorize the in-cab air-brake check verbatim and in the exact order.

Is the following in the correct order?

1. No more than 3psi per minute with no brakes applied; 2. No more than 4psi per minute with the brakes applied; 3. Low Air Pressure Warning lights and/or buzzer when pressure is "fanned" to approximately 60psi; 4. Emergency brakes activate when pressure reaches between 20psi and 40psi; 5. Compressor build rate: 85psi to 100psi within 45 seconds; 6. Governor Cut-Out at 120psi (may be different among different truck brands and years); 7. Governor Cut-In usually occurs around 100psi, but may be acceptable at 90psi; 8. Pull Test: One for the tractor and another for the trailer; and, 9. Low speed check -- at 3 - 5mph, apply brakes firmly and note any pulling or delays.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

RebelliousVamp 's Comment
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Be sure to pay special attention on the 4 point brake check. It is very specific and must be performed as your state requires and it is an auto fail item. It would be a shame to go through the entire pre trip only to fail right there at the end.

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Great point Dragon. Definitely RV and any student reading this ...memorize the in-cab air-brake check verbatim and in the exact order.

Ohhhh yeah. I am aware....not easy but I only practiced once.

G-Town's Comment
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Be sure to pay special attention on the 4 point brake check. It is very specific and must be performed as your state requires and it is an auto fail item. It would be a shame to go through the entire pre trip only to fail right there at the end.

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Great point Dragon. Definitely RV and any student reading this ...memorize the in-cab air-brake check verbatim and in the exact order.

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Is the following in the correct order?

1. No more than 3psi per minute with no brakes applied; 2. No more than 4psi per minute with the brakes applied; 3. Low Air Pressure Warning lights and/or buzzer when pressure is "fanned" to approximately 60psi; 4. Emergency brakes activate when pressure reaches between 20psi and 40psi; 5. Compressor build rate: 85psi to 100psi within 45 seconds; 6. Governor Cut-Out at 120psi (may be different among different truck brands and years); 7. Governor Cut-In usually occurs around 100psi, but may be acceptable at 90psi; 8. Pull Test: One for the tractor and another for the trailer; and, 9. Low speed check -- at 3 - 5mph, apply brakes firmly and note any pulling or delays.

Awesome, calling out G-Town after a 13 plus hour day. Lol.

Each of the 7 checks must be called out during the in-cab part of the pre-trip test, including what precludes the 7 point brake check. You must build up the air to governor cut-out before putting in low gear (with clutch in) and then stop the engine.

Your order looks good but some of the text is missing such as how do you know the emergency brakes were engaged? "Both valves pop out or trailer first, tractor second".

When you take the test you must say:

Step one "Static Check" and while you are performing the check narrate what you are doing and what should happen.

Step two "Applied Check", etc. up to step 7.

When you have completed step seven, "Service Brake check" tell the examiner you have completed the in-cab portion of the pre trip and would he help you check your outside lights.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

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