Cr England Contract

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Jessica P.'s Comment
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Hey, I'm a new truckers wife and my husband started working for cr England trucking company and he's been with the company almost two months now and he is ready to give it up but we don't have $6,000 to pay them for not staying a full 9 months. So far hes had two trainers (one he hasn't met yet because he's been waiting for him for 11 hours now out in Texas) his first trainer didn't speak English and threatened to hurt my husband... I don't know about yall, but that doesn't make a very happy wife... so, my question is is there ANY way out of that contract? Any loopholes whatsoever? And if not, what's the best thing he/we should or can do? And should I lawyer up?

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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Hey, I'm a new truckers wife and my husband started working for cr England trucking company and he's been with the company almost two months now and he is ready to give it up but we don't have $6,000 to pay them for not staying a full 9 months. So far hes had two trainers (one he hasn't met yet because he's been waiting for him for 11 hours now out in Texas) his first trainer didn't speak English and threatened to hurt my husband... I don't know about yall, but that doesn't make a very happy wife... so, my question is is there ANY way out of that contract? Any loopholes whatsoever? And if not, what's the best thing he/we should or can do? And should I lawyer up?

If you don't have the money for the contract you don't have the money for a lawyer on a contract you probably won't be able to get out of.

He's been waiting for a new trainer. Is he getting paid? If so then so what. Training is hard no matter what company he goes with and leaving one comonay without honoring the commitment will look really bad to other companies.

He's been there two months. He only has seven left. He expressed his concerns about the trainer and the company is accommodating him by sending some one else. What more do you want? Sounds like he just doesn't want to be in trucking now.

Jessica P.'s Comment
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No he's not getting paid and excuse me for being a little concerned about his wellbeing. I thought this site would be helpful, but I guess ignorance is bliss right?

Sambo's Comment
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Cr England is a large and we'll established company. If he is having issues with another driver, they are well equipped to take care of it. He shouldn't need to be concerned about his well being, as far as the driver who threatened him.

He should report it to his supervisor and request another trainer, which it sounds like that has been done.

As far as waiting, it happens sometimes. They may just be waiting for a trainer to become available. Some people have to wait up to 2 or 3 days, sometimes more, before they get a trainer.

If you don't mind sharing, what is the reason he is wanting to give up? Is it because of the threat and the wait time? Or is there something else going on?

Susan D. 's Comment
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11 hours isnt a very long time. But it does sound like CRE is taking care to get him a new trainer quickly.

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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No he's not getting paid and excuse me for being a little concerned about his wellbeing. I thought this site would be helpful, but I guess ignorance is bliss right?

I wasn't trying to be nasty. I just truly couldn't see your concern nor his for wanting to leave.I'm sorry if you took offense.

Eleven hours is nothing in trucking. I sat waiting for one load at the customer for 20 hours and was told if I left, I'd go to the end of the line.

By your original rationale, I should have quit my Job. And walked away....but it is the same in every company cause that is trucking. Youre "lawyer up" comment truly made it sound like neither of you want this.

Re read your comment it comes across as being concerned with money not his well being. $6000...get out of contract...lawyer up.

He's getting paid while waiting and the company is replacing the trainer. So again...what more do you want? By the comment you want out of the contract regardless of what the company does. Point blank....that will be very diificukt. And have you seen the contract or did he sign it and keep it with him? My contract said if I left they could take $70 per week from my future employment. The contracts are written by high powered lawyers at huge companies who have legal Dept's. Whatever lawyer you hired most likely wouldn't be able to compete. And again.,..if you can't afford the $6000 which most can't..could you afford a lawyer? Probably not.

I was being practical not nasty. And the truth is that any future company will see him as a quitter who does not honor their commitment which is one of the reasons the owner and moderators of the site advocate staying with the same company the first year.

Also because he is new.....he is going to hit things.,.and the company that trained him will be more forgiving in the beginning than the next company who will expect him to know what he is doing.

There's a lot more involved than the trainer. You gave no other reason for wanting to leave. Are there other reasons he wants to leave ?

Rick S.'s Comment
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No he's not getting paid and excuse me for being a little concerned about his wellbeing. I thought this site would be helpful, but I guess ignorance is bliss right?

We're called Trucking TRUTH - not Trucking Tell-You-What-You-Wanted-To-Hear.

And in cases like this - the first advice is ALWAYS GOING TO BE - TRY AND WORK IT OUT before walking away.

CRE like other companies has a pretty Iron Clad Contract - you're not going to "lawyer your way out" of it. And as has been suggested - if you can't buy your way out of your contract - no lawyer is going to take a case like this pro bono or contingency - so you're going to have to pony up the legal fees (which you might be able to get back on the incredibly unlikely event you actually have a case for breach of contract on CRE's part), and wait, likely for well over a year to actually see a case come to a conclusion. During which time, you will be BLACKLISTED BY CRE and unable to get a trucking job.

Now - I understand you are concerned and upset. And that you might have expected a little sympathy and handholding here. Sorry you were not shown that - but our purpose here is to provide THE FACTS, based on the experience of our members.

A number of users here - including Rainy - have had WAY MORE HORRIBLE EXPERIENCES with trainers (at better companies than CRE) and, taking the advice of members here - sought a resolution to her issues that didn't involve WALKING AWAY.

The company has probably put him up in a motel - they're not making him sleep on the street while waiting for a new trainer (for 11 whole hours, my God). We all understand how frustrating the situation can be, and how IMMEDIATE it seems in the moment. Which is why we usually advise to contact your DM , take a step back and a deep breath, and see how the situation progresses, before making hasty decisions you might regret later.

Rick

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Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

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Phoenix's Comment
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at better companies than CRE

Hey now! Lol

The payback for breaking a contract with CRE is actually $7500 (5000 tuition + 2500 penalty).

My husband and I were pretty frustrated with CRE at the beginning, but I'm actually happy here now. There's usually something that can be done if there's something not working the way it should. Your husband just needs to reach out to the people who can help him..like his DM or career counsellor. They've bent over backwards to help us through some crises. But then, we've never attacked them either, no matter how frustrated we got. Things happen out here on the road. That, and waiting, are just part of the job description. If y'all can't deal with crap happening, perhaps trucking just ain't right for y'all. ( That does NOT apply to his trainer being abusive, but it sounds like that is already being resolved.)

And I would suggest that perhaps you do some reading here on Trucking Truth so you can understand the lifestyle and the job better. Your husband needs your support, but not to walk from, or fight, his contract. The more you understand how all this works, the better you'll be able to support him in a meaningful way.

If you're still reading, best of luck!

Sheila

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
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