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Dan J.'s Comment
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I would like to say greeting . I'm am new to this forum and new to trucking. I've only been trucking for three months.However I have seen some of the responses. Please with all respect only serious and factual one. I recently quit from my company. I told them that I quit and I will not abandon the truck. Mind you this is all done over Qualcomm. I was not under a load. They told me to bring it to the terminal . I told them I would take it to a secure facility and I would pay for it myself because it is cheaper to bus myself from where I was rather than from the terminal in fear of not being transported home. They told me that not taking it to the facility would be considered abandonment. I responded that it is only abandonment if they do not authorize it. This they did not like and the fact I only would converse on Qualcomm. After bickering they told me (safety) that I would be given no authorisation and what ever it was I wanted to do was entirely up to me but they would respond accordingly. After much thinking I figured that I would do as they say in fear of avoiding something terrible on my dac. Before I could rationalize . I saw a tow truck and they driver said he was taking it. I handed my keys and showed him how to operate it. Now they have a right to take it and that's fine I understand that. But my worry is if they will say I abandoned it which I didn't. I have documentation of the conversation and me being physically present while being towed and even a driver to vow for my presence. All documented recorded proof. Can someone please tell me how severe my situation is and if I can fight it. It's been one week since the incident and nothing on my dac yet. I refuse to accept vehicle abandonment. Any advice would be helpful. Please serious respectful responses would be greatly appreciated. P.S. no accidents,tickets or violations. Thank you

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Tractor Man's Comment
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You should have dropped it at a Terminal as requested. You may have created a bigger problem than was necessary. Good Luck to you.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Dan J.'s Comment
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You should have dropped it at a Terminal as requested. You may have created a bigger problem than was necessary. Good Luck to you.

How so ? What problem might that be ?

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Errol V.'s Comment
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The truck belongs to the company. First, where did you pick the truck up? Was it on the side of a road, at a truck stop, or a tow truck office? No, you got your truck at the company terminal.

You can document your refusal to return the truck all you want. By leaving the truck anywhere else but where the company asks you to take it, you are abandoning company property. This is cut and dried.

Sure, you will certainly be responsible for your own travel after you drop the truck off, but overall, what's the big deal?

If you handed the keys to some tow truck driver, he's expecting to be paid for services when you are actually responsible for the truck's safe return. Who's supposed to pay him?

There is no way to rationalize your actions to "make it better", as you are hoping to hear.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Dan J.'s Comment
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The truck belongs to the company. First, where did you pick the truck up? Was it on the side of a road, at a truck stop, or a tow truck office? No, you got your truck at the company terminal.

You can document your refusal to return the truck all you want. By leaving the truck anywhere else but where the company asks you to take it, you are abandoning company property. This is cut and dried.

Sure, you will certainly be responsible for your own travel after you drop the truck off, but overall, what's the big deal?

If you handed the keys to some tow truck driver, he's expecting to be paid for services when you are actually responsible for the truck's safe return. Who's supposed to pay him?

There is no way to rationalize your actions to "make it better", as you are hoping to hear.

But I didn't leave it anywhere else . I was still in the truck when they took it.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Tractor Man's Comment
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They told me to bring it to the terminal . I told them I would take it to a secure facility and I would pay for it myself because it is cheaper to bus myself from where I was rather than from the terminal in fear of not being transported home. They told me that taking it to the facility would be considered abandonment. I responded that it is only abandonment if they do not authorize it. This they did not like and the fact I only would converse on Qualcomm. After bickering they told me (safety) that I would be given no authorisation and what ever it was I wanted to do was entirely up to me but they would respond accordingly.

I was simply going by the information that you posted. I was neither agreeing or disagreeing with either party. They obviously thought it was in their interest to send a Tow Truck to your location and recover their asset. Apparently that was how they "Responded Accordingly. If it were me I simply would have followed their request and dropped it at a Terminal. As I do not know the entire situation, I responded with what I would have done. I really like to follow the path of least resistance wherever possible in those types of situations. As far as to your question as to what the problem might be is hard for me to say. They may charge you for the Towing. May accuse you of Abandonment of Equipment. They may put negative remarks on your DAC.They may do nothing. The ball is really in their court right now. I hope things work out for the best.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Dan J.'s Comment
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The truck belongs to the company. First, where did you pick the truck up? Was it on the side of a road, at a truck stop, or a tow truck office? No, you got your truck at the company terminal.

You can document your refusal to return the truck all you want. By leaving the truck anywhere else but where the company asks you to take it, you are abandoning company property. This is cut and dried.

Sure, you will certainly be responsible for your own travel after you drop the truck off, but overall, what's the big deal?

If you handed the keys to some tow truck driver, he's expecting to be paid for services when you are actually responsible for the truck's safe return. Who's supposed to pay him?

There is no way to rationalize your actions to "make it better", as you are hoping to hear.

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But I didn't leave it anywhere else . I was still in the truck when they took it.

Then how would you explain drivers leaving there equipment at secure locations on home time. That's not considered abandonment because their is authorization. They authorize vehicle at facilities all the time. Home time related or not

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Tractor Man's Comment
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Dan, You are obviously convinced that you did nothing wrong. Apparently you asked for advice that you really did not want. So..............just wait it out and see what happens.

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Dan J.'s Comment
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Dan, You are obviously convinced that you did nothing wrong. Apparently you asked for advice that you really did not want. So..............just wait it out and see what happens.

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I appreciate you advice . I really do and I apologize if I came off that way. It's I was still at the truck stop I wasn't under a load and I never took it to the facility I said I was going to. The only reason they sent that tow was because there were convinced I wasn't there and I left it at the truck stop. The tow truck driver would have been able to do anything without the keys

Dan J.'s Comment
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The truck belongs to the company. First, where did you pick the truck up? Was it on the side of a road, at a truck stop, or a tow truck office? No, you got your truck at the company terminal.

You can document your refusal to return the truck all you want. By leaving the truck anywhere else but where the company asks you to take it, you are abandoning company property. This is cut and dried.

Sure, you will certainly be responsible for your own travel after you drop the truck off, but overall, what's the big deal?

If you handed the keys to some tow truck driver, he's expecting to be paid for services when you are actually responsible for the truck's safe return. Who's supposed to pay him?

There is no way to rationalize your actions to "make it better", as you are hoping to hear.

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But I didn't leave it anywhere else . I was still in the truck when they took it.

So then we can agree it was a safe return ?

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

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