Who Sets The Years Of Experience For The Smaller Compnies? Insurance

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Cornelius A.'s Comment
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unlike the bigger guys who have special programs designed for them, the smaller guys are at the mercy of their insurance companies. They are not at liberty to hire who they want like the big guys do. In the industry you don't know how many times the insurance company tells the small guy to fire a driver or his payment will double which is why I always beg guys on here to keep their record as clean as they can. 90% of the insurance companies out there require the smaller guy to provide them with their hiring guidelines that shows that they want at least 2 years of CDL driving experience and because they design all of these programs for the big guys, they know where that driver can get that experience... its like bondage... where else can you get your 2 years? some will rarely make an exception for one year experience . So the smaller guy has his hands tied more an the bigger guy... he is not at liberty to hire who he wants his insurance decides it for him. it hurts whenever I have to tell a smaller guy that he can only be insured only if he lets driver A or B go... No insurance = shut down shop.. That is how important it is for you guys to stay away from tickets, yes I have heard because it is important to be hirable.

So please when you say that some companies are picky? no it is not their choice ... they are restricted by their insurance company and have no choice,,, the big guys walk on caviar they walk on hot dogs

KEEP IT CLEAN .... PRE TRIP,POST TRIP. WEIGHT, SPEED AND YOU ARE GOLD... TIRED OF LISTENING TO SMALLER COMPANIES THAT PAY GOOOD TELLING ME THEY CANT FIND GOOD DRIVERS

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
G-Town's Comment
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A good driving record and intrinsically safe behaviors are critical keys to success no matter how many years of experience a driver has. My constant focus and attention to those details is at the essence of what I do and is NOT influenced by any insurance company.

I know of a half dozen small, local companies that would have hired me at 12 months of experience, in a heartbeat.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Cornelius A.'s Comment
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Like I said some companies will make an exception especially if that local has proven to have good hiring practices, not too many out of service etc.... but 2 years is the norm... For an exception to take you on with one year, the insurance company looks at your age and overall driving record as a non cdl driver and look to see if you had always been a safe driver

A good driving record and intrinsically safe behaviors are critical keys to success no matter how many years of experience a driver has. My constant focus and attention to those details is at the essence of what I do and is NOT influenced by any insurance company.

I know of a half dozen small, local companies that would have hired me at 12 months of experience, in a heartbeat.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
G-Town's Comment
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Like I said some companies will make an exception especially if that local has proven to have good hiring practices, not too many out of service etc.... but 2 years is the norm... For an exception to take you on with one year, the insurance company looks at your age and overall driving record as a non cdl driver and look to see if you had always been a safe driver

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A good driving record and intrinsically safe behaviors are critical keys to success no matter how many years of experience a driver has. My constant focus and attention to those details is at the essence of what I do and is NOT influenced by any insurance company.

I know of a half dozen small, local companies that would have hired me at 12 months of experience, in a heartbeat.

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My point Cornelius...twofold: insurance companies and their rating systems should not influence our professional behaviors. It is not a motivating factor.

Second, no driver on here should be dissuaded from seeking a change in their employment to local or otherwise if they have less that two years of driving experience. Tons of opportunity for a safe driver with one year of experience. Tons!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Cornelius A.'s Comment
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The reason for this post was that I noticed some people saying that the smaller companies were picky and only high mile safe drivers.... I did this in defense of those smaller companies so that some people should understand that they do not have as much leeway as the bigger guys. I love trucking and want to see more truckers out there. that is my living..... trucking trucking trucking... since joining this site I have helped a lot of smaller companies from what I have learnt here... I can proudly say there are 5 companies that are now using Daniel's pre trip inspection so that they can get their DOT scores down which will mean for them lower premium. All I advocate is be safe and protect your record

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Cornelius A.'s Comment
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oh yes if you are a safe driver with one year?????/ gosh the opportunities are there.... gazillion of them ...... I talk to about 50 small trucking companies a day and I know what their problems,,...... safe driver one year experience in need of a job????? trust me the insurance company will look the other way and let them hire you

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Like I said some companies will make an exception especially if that local has proven to have good hiring practices, not too many out of service etc.... but 2 years is the norm... For an exception to take you on with one year, the insurance company looks at your age and overall driving record as a non cdl driver and look to see if you had always been a safe driver

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A good driving record and intrinsically safe behaviors are critical keys to success no matter how many years of experience a driver has. My constant focus and attention to those details is at the essence of what I do and is NOT influenced by any insurance company.

I know of a half dozen small, local companies that would have hired me at 12 months of experience, in a heartbeat.

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My point Cornelius...twofold: insurance companies and their rating systems should not influence our professional behaviors. It is not a motivating factor.

Second, no driver on here should be dissuaded from seeking a change in their employment to local or otherwise if they have less that two years of driving experience. Tons of opportunity for a safe driver with one year of experience. Tons!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
G-Town's Comment
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The reason for this post was that I noticed some people saying that the smaller companies were picky and only high mile safe drivers.... I did this in defense of those smaller companies so that some people should understand that they do not have as much leeway as the bigger guys. I love trucking and want to see more truckers out there. that is my living..... trucking trucking trucking... since joining this site I have helped a lot of smaller companies from what I have learnt here... I can proudly say there are 5 companies that are now using Daniel's pre trip inspection so that they can get their DOT scores down which will mean for them lower premium. All I advocate is be safe and protect your record

Okay, got it. Glad you added that detail.

However insurance alone may not be the primary factor in all cases... Might just be a good, solid business practice required to maintain high levels of customer service. After all service is what we are selling in most every commercial exchange.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Cornelius A.'s Comment
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Insurance Isa major factor in smaller companies closing down.... we all know there is a big shortage of drivers in the country which is why a site like this one is amazing to encourage people to get into trucking. but many a times have I seen companies go from , ,10,20,30,even a 100 to 5, 6,1,10 units . whenever I have asked them what happened? the answer has always been I could not find good drivers so my FCMSA score went to conditional and my premium went from 7000 to 20000 per truck...I could not afford it.... which is why I always say your CDL is a degree not just a license, keep it clean and you will be worth gold,,....... there are people out there looking for drivers everyday.... KEEP ON TRUCKING GYS ...MAKE YOURSEL MAEKETABLE AND THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE PLENTIFUL

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
G-Town's Comment
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Cornelius you know your business and I know mine.

I sincerely hope, if given the chance you are this diligent advising your clients as you are on this forum. If so, and they actually apply your knowledge to their operation, they'll be better off.

Cornelius A.'s Comment
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This forum is like a library and I take a lot of what I learn here back to my clients and even force some of them to register here.... you guys are amazing.... the things I learn here allow me to talk to them in an educated manner ....thanks guys

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