Averitt Vs. Old Dominion

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Kevin K.'s Comment
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I'm a recent Class A driving school grad with a ton of Class B straight truck experience. I applied at Old Dominion and Averitt and was offered jobs (conditional pending background check, etc.) at both.

Now my (incredibly-fortunate-to-have) dilemma:

OD wants to start me right off the bat as a city P&D driver. Averitt has a combo drop-and-hook/linehaul position available. I really, really don't want to do city P&D but my foot would be in the door at OD for a doubles linehaul gig down the road. The position at Averitt, however, is exactly what I'm looking for.

I'm having trouble deciding between the high-risk, high-reward job at OD or the lower risk, lower reward job at Averitt. I'm heavily leaning towards Averitt.

Would I be certifiably nuts turning down Old Dominion?

P&D:

Pickup & Delivery

Local drivers that stay around their area, usually within 100 mile radius of a terminal, picking up and delivering loads.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers for instance will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

Drop-and-hook:

Drop and hook means the driver will drop one trailer and hook to another one.

In order to speed up the pickup and delivery process a driver may be instructed to drop their empty trailer and hook to one that is already loaded, or drop their loaded trailer and hook to one that is already empty. That way the driver will not have to wait for a trailer to be loaded or unloaded.

Daniel B.'s Comment
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I'd certify you as nuts just for thinking about turning down Old Dominion!

Splitter's Comment
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I'd certify you as nuts just for thinking about turning down Old Dominion!

Can you explain this Daniel B.? Being a rookie, I don’t know the intricacies of the different carriers. I mostly see them pulling doubles.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

Kevin K.'s Comment
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Averitt uses 53 foot dry vans for their linehaul , which they call "shuttle"

Most other LTLs use doubles - OD, Saia, Estes, R&L, ABF, as well as UPSF, FedEx...

This is one of the factors. I'm 45 and looking long-term. Is pulling doubles in the Midwest something I want to be doing 5 years down the road?

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

Dry Van:

A trailer or truck that that requires no special attention, such as refrigeration, that hauls regular palletted, boxed, or floor-loaded freight. The most common type of trailer in trucking.
Kevin K.'s Comment
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I also read through 6 strings thread on pulling doubles for OD and I took Brett A.'s cautions therein about starting out as a city P&D driver to heart. I was anxious enough about P&D already without him chiming in :) I have no other discernible job skills so this is my whole career I'm putting at stake.

I feel like OD is setting me up to fail while Averitt is setting me up to succeed.

P&D:

Pickup & Delivery

Local drivers that stay around their area, usually within 100 mile radius of a terminal, picking up and delivering loads.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers for instance will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

Gladhand's Comment
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Do what works for you. You can always run with Averitt and then eventually go to a company that pulls doubles. Also did you talk to the people at old dominion to see if you could be put on Linehaul?

Saw your from Milwaukee? There should be quite a bit of opportunity with linehaul.

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

Kevin K.'s Comment
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At OD, you can move from P&D to linehaul but there is no firm timeline. It could be years. I have thought about risking a chat with the terminal manger at OD, who seems accessible and reasonable, about my anxiety over P&D and my desire for a linehaul position instead. Worst case, he says it's P&D or nothing and I have a nice shuttle job at AE waiting for me.

Yes I'm from Milwaukee. The south side near the airport is busting with LTLs. I've considered all of them and have applied at a few. They all interviewed me and conditionally offered me jobs. I can't imagine there being a better time to be job hunting as a rookie driver.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

P&D:

Pickup & Delivery

Local drivers that stay around their area, usually within 100 mile radius of a terminal, picking up and delivering loads.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers for instance will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.
Gladhand's Comment
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At OD, you can move from P&D to linehaul but there is no firm timeline. It could be years. I have thought about risking a chat with the terminal manger at OD, who seems accessible and reasonable, about my anxiety over P&D and my desire for a linehaul position instead. Worst case, he says it's P&D or nothing and I have a nice shuttle job at AE waiting for me.

Yes I'm from Milwaukee. The south side near the airport is busting with LTLs. I've considered all of them and have applied at a few. They all interviewed me and conditionally offered me jobs. I can't imagine there being a better time to be job hunting as a rookie driver.

I see, over here in Albuquerque the main positions being advertised are linehaul. It doesn't hurt to ask. Like I said you can always do it later on.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

P&D:

Pickup & Delivery

Local drivers that stay around their area, usually within 100 mile radius of a terminal, picking up and delivering loads.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers for instance will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.
Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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I've been with Old Dominion running linehaul out of Chicago West for 7 months now they basically hired me right out of school as I only had 2 months driving with another company, and I would highly recommend going with OD as they are a great company to work for, my dad has been working for them for almost 2 years as a shop manager after 28 years at Con-way and loves it as well . Every terminal is a little different on how they handle things and how they train but I know our P&D trainees spend a month training with a couple different trainers so you can get different perspectives. We have great equipment compared to most other LTL companies we have 1k new trucks and countless new trailers and dollies coming in. Personally I would check and see if they have any linehaul openings but if you don't mind doing P&D it wouldn't be a bad way to get your foot in the door.

I don't see if taking years to get a linehaul spot as we are putting students right out of school on linehaul in the Chicago area and they are expecting a huge boom in freight in the region.

If you have any other questions I will try to answer them if possible.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

P&D:

Pickup & Delivery

Local drivers that stay around their area, usually within 100 mile radius of a terminal, picking up and delivering loads.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers for instance will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.
Kevin K.'s Comment
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I've been with Old Dominion running linehaul out of Chicago West for 7 months now they basically hired me right out of school as I only had 2 months driving with another company, and I would highly recommend going with OD as they are a great company to work for, my dad has been working for them for almost 2 years as a shop manager after 28 years at Con-way and loves it as well . Every terminal is a little different on how they handle things and how they train but I know our P&D trainees spend a month training with a couple different trainers so you can get different perspectives. We have great equipment compared to most other LTL companies we have 1k new trucks and countless new trailers and dollies coming in. Personally I would check and see if they have any linehaul openings but if you don't mind doing P&D it wouldn't be a bad way to get your foot in the door.

I don't see if taking years to get a linehaul spot as we are putting students right out of school on linehaul in the Chicago area and they are expecting a huge boom in freight in the region.

If you have any other questions I will try to answer them if possible.

Did you do a strength test before they hired you? I think it's the only other thing they might require of me, everything else seems squared away. If so, what did they have you do?

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

P&D:

Pickup & Delivery

Local drivers that stay around their area, usually within 100 mile radius of a terminal, picking up and delivering loads.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers for instance will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.
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