Duty Hour Log Book Cheating?

Let’s be honest, learning to bend the rules and use the “grey areas” to your advantage get you paid and gets the job done. It just is how it is. Like delivering off duty because you parked at the receiver. Technically is breaking the rules, but as long as you show some time for it, no one is going to say anything. Every “top tier” driver abuses the “grey area” with impunity. Just like before the days of e-logs drivers rewrote history on a regular basis.

Let’s be honest, learning to bend the rules and use the “grey areas” to your advantage get you paid and gets the job done. It just is how it is. Like delivering off duty because you parked at the receiver. Technically is breaking the rules, but as long as you show some time for it, no one is going to say anything. Every “top tier” driver abuses the “grey area” with impunity. Just like before the days of e-logs drivers rewrote history on a regular basis.

That's exactly what I'm saying. That's how it's always been and that hasn't changed.

I may take my break at a customer, but I'll certainly be showing loading or unloading time on my logs. I'll typically arrive, toss my BOLs in the back of the trailer, and show my on duty time then go to bed. They wake me (or more likely I get woken up) in the morning when they open and finished unloading or loading me. Most of our customers that allow overnight parking just let us sleep in the dock at night. One customer in Green Bay even brings coffee to your truck lol.. too bad I'm allergic to the stuff.

I'll certainly be showing loading or unloading time on my logs

You log on duty for loading and unloading? How much on duty time do you show each time? I could see doing a token 15 minutes or something for backing and paperwork, which I never did myself, but otherwise I would imagine you're off duty while waiting at customers, right?

I'll certainly be showing loading or unloading time on my logs

You log on duty for loading and unloading? How much on duty time do you show each time? I could see doing a token 15 minutes or something for backing and paperwork, which I never did myself, but otherwise I would imagine you're off duty while waiting at customers, right?

Yes, just a token 15 mins. Than it is off duty / sleeper berth. I only spend what I have to outside of driving. I save as much of my 70 for driving as I can.

I have this guy watch the loading and unloading😁🤣😆😁

I will use my current run as an example. I parked at my receiver in Waukesha, WI Sunday night. I had a 5 am delivery yesterday. Since the load planners don’t come in to 8, I showed my delivery with my post trip. I got up in the morning and walked my paperwork inside. It is a drop and hook there so, I had already dropped my trailer and grabbed my MT. Got my paperwork signed and sent my MT call. I got my current load around 0830. I picked up in Stoughton, WI with a delivery in Lebanon, TN. I ran the hour to Stoughton. I had let dispatch know I would deliver at 1000. (Give myself a little wiggle room). Customer service ended up setting my appointment for 0800. I got a message saying they know my ETA is 1000 and they will work me in. I have been to this receiver plenty of times. Getting worked in is an all day affair. The only way I was going to get out of there at a decent time was to be there for the appointment. Long story short, is I ran my tail off. I did end up violating my 11 by 5 mins. But, I made my receiver. I will make the appointment time.i will get out of here at a decent time. I did get 703 miles in yesterday in a truck governed at 65 mph. I logged my live unload along with my post trip last night.that way I won’t start my clock again until I am finished getting unloaded. I will go get my dock assignment, put it the door and get unloaded all without ever starting my clock. My next load after this is Calhoun, TN to Wis Rapids, WI. I have never been to my next receiver, but if they allow overnight parking I will deliver tomorrow night. If not, I will deliver first thing Thursday morning. I imagine Thursday will be little local runs as I need to be at a yard Thursday night to get maintenance on my truck done Friday. Will end up resetting Friday. To leave out Saturday. Since most of our receivers are closed on the weekends, I will try and get a load heading out west for a Monday delivery.

I log whatever time it takes me to check in and dock, then my company considers us relieved of duty until loading or unloading is complete. Sometimes it might take me 6-8 minutes and other times 20+, just depending on how lengthy the check in process is. Those customers that allow me to just throw the BOLs in the trailer, dock, and go to bed, naturally take very little time.