Backing And Alley

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andhe78's Comment
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McElroy will probably teach you how to back a spread. We do some things a bit different. A true 90 with a loaded spread can result in a tipped over trailer or a tire popped off the rim.

Jason B.'s Comment
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Only habits im taking with me knowing how to shift i drive a 13 speed tri axle dump truck now i want to focus on what i need the most which is backing lol but im open to everything im not going in knowning it all

You’re overthinking things a bit. You need to learn to back a trailer the way that McElroy wants it performed. Don’t worry about it now, and don’t go there with any bad habits you will need to un-learn. You’ll be fine!

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Jason B.'s Comment
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I choose it cause of the hometime they offer plus they are local to me in alabama plus i heard they are a good company think they offerd .51 cpm

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Im joning mclroy truck lines may 8th jist trying to prep take in all information and tripping they are going to be more focus on my backing and lane controll since i already have learners premit have expreince shifting and down Shifting

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i know this company very well... if you only have your permit... your going to driving school right off the bat and then them.

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Jason B.'s Comment
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Ive came across this afew times many have told me you cant 90 a spread axle

McElroy will probably teach you how to back a spread. We do some things a bit different. A true 90 with a loaded spread can result in a tipped over trailer or a tire popped off the rim.

andhe78's Comment
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Ive came across this afew times many have told me you cant 90 a spread axle

It’s not that it can’t be done, no problem empty or with a dump valve or even certain loads. But put a 50k lb, tall coil on the deck, and watch how fast that trailer tips.

Bruce K.'s Comment
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Tips and tricks? practice and practice, add some more practice. backing skills is a time developed skill. i was lucky to start on tractors and equipment on the farm so i just have a natural knack for backing up after 20+ years of doing it. but in the last month it pushed my levels the first few days and i can put a 53' just about anywhere i want it. indiana doesnt require the alley for the cdl test.. but i was bored at school and told the instructers to challenge me. i got a narrow alley (think europe) then a 6 cone serpentine.

TLRD just practice.. im sure there is at least 50 videos on youtube

Scott, farm boys seem to have an advantage in backing and maybe in trucking in general. I’ll never forget my brother-in-law back up a triple combination of hay wagon, square bailer and tractor up a 12’ wide timber ramp into the hay loft. He did it all summer with no G.O.A.L’s and no pull ups. He’d get in trouble now days without GOALing.

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  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Scott D.'s Comment
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Tips and tricks? practice and practice, add some more practice. backing skills is a time developed skill. i was lucky to start on tractors and equipment on the farm so i just have a natural knack for backing up after 20+ years of doing it. but in the last month it pushed my levels the first few days and i can put a 53' just about anywhere i want it. indiana doesnt require the alley for the cdl test.. but i was bored at school and told the instructers to challenge me. i got a narrow alley (think europe) then a 6 cone serpentine.

TLRD just practice.. im sure there is at least 50 videos on youtube

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Scott, farm boys seem to have an advantage in backing and maybe in trucking in general. I’ll never forget my brother-in-law back up a triple combination of hay wagon, square bailer and tractor up a 12’ wide timber ramp into the hay loft. He did it all summer with no G.O.A.L’s and no pull ups. He’d get in trouble now days without GOALing.

im good with just one swivel point lol.. no need to get that crazy now haha.

even still. iv yet to see what more of the real world has to offer as to backing up. just got to take them one step at a time as they come.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Scott D.'s Comment
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Only habits im taking with me knowing how to shift i drive a 13 speed tri axle dump truck now i want to focus on what i need the most which is backing lol but im open to everything im not going in knowning it all

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You’re overthinking things a bit. You need to learn to back a trailer the way that McElroy wants it performed. Don’t worry about it now, and don’t go there with any bad habits you will need to un-learn. You’ll be fine!

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im reading this like you dont know how to back a trailer at all. if this is correct.. get a pickup truck and the longest bumper pull trailer you can find. set up a few obsticles with cones, stumps, dead bodies, empty beer cans ect. should give ya a basic feel for backing.. then you just have to make that bigger later on, but you will have the basics figured out

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Bruce K.'s Comment
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Only habits im taking with me knowing how to shift i drive a 13 speed tri axle dump truck now i want to focus on what i need the most which is backing lol but im open to everything im not going in knowning it all

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You’re overthinking things a bit. You need to learn to back a trailer the way that McElroy wants it performed. Don’t worry about it now, and don’t go there with any bad habits you will need to un-learn. You’ll be fine!

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im reading this like you dont know how to back a trailer at all. if this is correct.. get a pickup truck and the longest bumper pull trailer you can find. set up a few obsticles with cones, stumps, dead bodies, empty beer cans ect. should give ya a basic feel for backing.. then you just have to make that bigger later on, but you will have the basics figured out

Scott, don’t tell him that. I know you mean well, but you can’t simulate backing a 70’ rig with a pickup. I had pick ups and trailers for decades but I had to learn big boy backing from scratch. You cannot learn it from backing a pickup and trailer.

This was my experience. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Scott D.'s Comment
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Only habits im taking with me knowing how to shift i drive a 13 speed tri axle dump truck now i want to focus on what i need the most which is backing lol but im open to everything im not going in knowning it all

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You’re overthinking things a bit. You need to learn to back a trailer the way that McElroy wants it performed. Don’t worry about it now, and don’t go there with any bad habits you will need to un-learn. You’ll be fine!

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im reading this like you dont know how to back a trailer at all. if this is correct.. get a pickup truck and the longest bumper pull trailer you can find. set up a few obsticles with cones, stumps, dead bodies, empty beer cans ect. should give ya a basic feel for backing.. then you just have to make that bigger later on, but you will have the basics figured out

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Scott, don’t tell him that. I know you mean well, but you can’t simulate backing a 70’ rig with a pickup. I had pick ups and trailers for decades but I had to learn big boy backing from scratch. You cannot learn it from backing a pickup and trailer.

This was my experience. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

with how i do it yes... use same method from basics learned on other stuff.. same principle. at school everyone kept asking why i didnt do it the "book" way.. well i have a different way... used the same thing on big rigs and no issues yet. but iv yet to only see the range for semi.. the real deal starts the 29th.

OWI:

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