DRIVING RECORD

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Michael M.'s Comment
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Hello Everyone - I am getting ready to start applying for company sponsored CDL training and I have a question about driving records. I had an accident in my personal vehicle almost one year ago. I was not found to be at fault and I could drive my car away from the accident scene but the other car had to be towed away. No injuries to me or the other driver. I told the police officer the other car ran the red light and the other driver told the police I ran the red light. The accident does appear on my driving record from the DMV in NJ. I have both a copy of my driving record and the accident report. Some companies I have looked at say no "major" and or "reportable" accidents within anywhere in the last 3- 5 years. This accident according to the accident report is considered to be "reportable".

Will this accident disqualify me from company sponsored CDL training ? My top three companies I am interested in are Millis, CFI and ROEHL.

Thank you !!!!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

PackRat's Comment
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Any citations that you have copies of? If so, how did the courts rule?

Michael M.'s Comment
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No citations for either myself or the other driver. Never went to court. My insurance paid for damage on my car, other driver dealt directly with their insurance company

My driving record other than the accident last year is all clear no tickets and or other accidents

Any citations that you have copies of? If so, how did the courts rule?

PackRat's Comment
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All you can do is apply and see what you hear in return.

Michael M.'s Comment
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Going to call all the companies directly and ask before I send in my application. I will let you know what they say.

Michael M.'s Comment
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Hey PackRat - I called some companies and this is what they said about my accident: CFI - no problem should not disqualify me for training ROEHL - have to wait to apply once accident is one year old. (accident was 12/21/2019) WILSON LOGISTICS - could not give me an answer until I submit complete application and police report of accident MILLIS - no issue because they will not hire me because I live in New Jersey.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

PackRat's Comment
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Good luck with Wilson. Hope you get hired there.

Rick S.'s Comment
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As far as "reportable accidents" go - what companies are referring to in their applications are DOT REPORTABLE ACCIDENTS.

The accident being marked as "reportable" in the case of a NON-CMV-INVOLVED wreck - usually means it gets forwarded to the State DMV (not FMCSA) as a matter of record. Accidents where the cop did a FULL REPORT (versus the one page driver notification report), are pretty much always submitted to the state DMV, and will show up as an accident on your MVR.

In a nutshell - DOT Reportable Accidents - are ones where a vehicle has to be towed from the scene - and/or - someone leaves the scene in a ambulance.

If the accident didn't involve a Commercial Motor Vehicle - than it is NOT DOT Reportable.

A "major accident" is similar - meaning significant damage to vehicles - and/or - life threatening injuries.

A "major accident" would obviously also be DOT Reportable - but differs in the nature of serious injuries or damage to the extent that a vehicle will likely be totalled (versus minor fender benders, clipping a mirror off, etc.). But would also apply to non-CMV accidents.

Trucking company applications are generic and assume the applicant is already a driver - and there are things that DOT REQUIRES (such as 3 years verifiable history for a non-truck driver, and 10 years for a driver).

Most companies look at accidents at a 3 year interval. A big factor is FAULT. In a he said/she said - where no citations are issued - which the LEO can't really do in absence of an obvious violation (failure to yield, etc.) and if the cop didn't actually witness it and there are no witnesses to testify to it - then the citation usually gets thrown out (FIGHT EVERY TICKET).

Since companies are "leery" of accidents in the one year mark - and there were no citations issued with the anniversary of the accident a couple of days away - you could also WAIT until afterwards to apply.

As everyone pretty much said - APPLY EVERYWHERE - GET IN WHERE YOU CAN. Get some safe time behind the wheel - and more/better opportunities will become available down the road.

Best of luck - DO keep us posted on your progress/results.

Rick

Commercial Motor Vehicle:

A commercial motor vehicle is any vehicle used in commerce to transport passengers or property with either:

  • A gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more
  • A gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more which includes a towed unit with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 10,000 pounds
  • CSA:

    Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

    The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

    FMCSA:

    Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

    The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

    What Does The FMCSA Do?

    • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
    • Data and Analysis
    • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
    • Research and Technology
    • Safety Assistance
    • Support and Information Sharing

    DOT:

    Department Of Transportation

    A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

    State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

    CMV:

    Commercial Motor Vehicle

    A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

    • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
    • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
    • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
    • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
    • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards

    BMI:

    Body mass index (BMI)

    BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

    • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
    • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

    It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

    Dm:

    Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

    The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

    Fm:

    Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

    The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

    DMV:

    Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

    The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

    MVR:

    Motor Vehicle Record

    An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

Michael M.'s Comment
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Thanks for all the info Rick. The accident is on my State of NJ DMV driving record. It just states I was involved in an accident.

As far as "reportable accidents" go - what companies are referring to in their applications are DOT REPORTABLE ACCIDENTS.

The accident being marked as "reportable" in the case of a NON-CMV-INVOLVED wreck - usually means it gets forwarded to the State DMV (not FMCSA) as a matter of record. Accidents where the cop did a FULL REPORT (versus the one page driver notification report), are pretty much always submitted to the state DMV, and will show up as an accident on your MVR.

In a nutshell - DOT Reportable Accidents - are ones where a vehicle has to be towed from the scene - and/or - someone leaves the scene in a ambulance.

If the accident didn't involve a Commercial Motor Vehicle - than it is NOT DOT Reportable.

A "major accident" is similar - meaning significant damage to vehicles - and/or - life threatening injuries.

A "major accident" would obviously also be DOT Reportable - but differs in the nature of serious injuries or damage to the extent that a vehicle will likely be totalled (versus minor fender benders, clipping a mirror off, etc.). But would also apply to non-CMV accidents.

Trucking company applications are generic and assume the applicant is already a driver - and there are things that DOT REQUIRES (such as 3 years verifiable history for a non-truck driver, and 10 years for a driver).

Most companies look at accidents at a 3 year interval. A big factor is FAULT. In a he said/she said - where no citations are issued - which the LEO can't really do in absence of an obvious violation (failure to yield, etc.) and if the cop didn't actually witness it and there are no witnesses to testify to it - then the citation usually gets thrown out (FIGHT EVERY TICKET).

Since companies are "leery" of accidents in the one year mark - and there were no citations issued with the anniversary of the accident a couple of days away - you could also WAIT until afterwards to apply.

As everyone pretty much said - APPLY EVERYWHERE - GET IN WHERE YOU CAN. Get some safe time behind the wheel - and more/better opportunities will become available down the road.

Best of luck - DO keep us posted on your progress/results.

Rick

Commercial Motor Vehicle:

A commercial motor vehicle is any vehicle used in commerce to transport passengers or property with either:

  • A gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more
  • A gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more which includes a towed unit with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 10,000 pounds
  • CSA:

    Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

    The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

    FMCSA:

    Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

    The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

    What Does The FMCSA Do?

    • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
    • Data and Analysis
    • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
    • Research and Technology
    • Safety Assistance
    • Support and Information Sharing

    DOT:

    Department Of Transportation

    A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

    State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

    CMV:

    Commercial Motor Vehicle

    A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

    • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
    • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
    • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
    • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
    • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards

    BMI:

    Body mass index (BMI)

    BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

    • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
    • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

    It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

    Dm:

    Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

    The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

    Fm:

    Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

    The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

    DMV:

    Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

    The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

    MVR:

    Motor Vehicle Record

    An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

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