Running On Recaps

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Jammer a's Comment
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Delivering on the 21 st in Aurora co I’m running on recaps can’t find somewhere to park till delivering very date and I’m only gonna get 3.5 hours back on the 21st 🤨🤨🤨got another appointment the next day in New Mexico wasn’t my idea but got stuck with it any way frustrated lol

Rick S.'s Comment
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Your DM should be able to see your logs too - simply inform then you don't have enough time left to legally make the run.

You didn't say WHERE in NM your appointment is - so kinda hard to run a route on it to see just how long it would take to make it there from Aurora.

Better to let your DM KNOW NOW - than a day from now.

At some point - if you're only getting back 3 hours a day on recaps - you're going to have to shut down and take a reset. And/or start doing a little more "time management calculations", so that you get enough back on your recaps, to still have a useful amount of time to drive left, when you pick up hours on recap.

Rick

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Jammer a's Comment
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Yeah I know I’m real new to this I told him I didn’t want to run recaps because I run my clock down more often than not I got caught in the snow across Oregon and Washington shut down early a coupl times but that’s pretty much it I can’t believe how much I don’t know sometimes prewitt nm from Aurora co

Your DM should be able to see your logs too - simply inform then you don't have enough time left to legally make the run.

You didn't say WHERE in NM your appointment is - so kinda hard to run a route on it to see just how long it would take to make it there from Aurora.

Better to let your DM KNOW NOW - than a day from now.

At some point - if you're only getting back 3 hours a day on recaps - you're going to have to shut down and take a reset. And/or start doing a little more "time management calculations", so that you get enough back on your recaps, to still have a useful amount of time to drive left, when you pick up hours on recap.

Rick

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Cobalt Cyborg's Comment
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Running recap1s isn't a bad thing. I used to prefer resets, but I've found that I average a lot more miles per week running recaps, and I don't waste away in my man cave sleeper for days at a time waiting for a reset.

But, if your load planners and your manager aren't paying attention to your hours,that's just not going to work. My advice is keep track of your recaps, and pay close attention to your preplans and current loads.

Let your manager know as soon as you realize you are short on hours for your load. Immediately.

It's also not a bad idea to let your manager know what your next day or 2 or even 3 look like for available hours, when you send your empty call.

Also, run the load you're on, not the next one. You'll understand that better as you gain experience, but just worry about your current load, that's enough stress.

Donna M.'s Comment
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I’m puzzled with this post. So last week I only ran 3.5 hours so that left u 67.5 hours to run. So for the next 7 days u ran at least 9 hours per day? Are u adding your recaps to your summary hours? So maybe some how u ran your 70 rest of your recaps should be good, so if u start out at 21:00 u should have 10 to 11 hours to run.

Rick S.'s Comment
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Yeah I know I’m real new to this I told him I didn’t want to run recaps because I run my clock down more often than not I got caught in the snow across Oregon and Washington shut down early a coupl times but that’s pretty much it I can’t believe how much I don’t know sometimes prewitt nm from Aurora co

You run, what you need to run to get the job done.

Most E-Log systems will show what you have coming back at midnight, if you're running close to your 70. You get back the HOURS YOU RAN 7 days ago (technically - 8 days ago, because that is the day that FALLS OFF AT MIDNIGHT).

But your logging device should also have a recaps screen (haven't seen one in a number of years), that should show hours on duty for the previous days, and you can figure out what you have left THE NEXT DAY from there.

Most folks try to average around 9 hours a day (+/-) on duty time if they're running on pure recaps (no resets), so they can still get a near-full day of driving back.

Sometimes though - as in your situation, where you say you are only getting 3.5 back the next day, means you were only on duty 3.5 hour on the 7th previous day.

Gotta watch this stuff - or it will jam you up.

Here's an example from another users post a few years ago:

Recapping hours is referred to several ways. Recaps, 8th day drop, etc. Let's say you start on Monday with a fresh 70.

Day 1: Monday you use 8 hrs 45mins leaves you with 61 hrs 15 mins.

Day 2: Tuesday you use 7 hrs 45mins leaving you with 53 hrs 30 mins.

Day 3: Wednesday you use 9 hrs 30 mins leaving you with 44 hrs.

Day 4: Thursday you use 8 hrs 45 mins leaving you with 35 hrs 15 mins.

Day 5: Friday you use 9 hrs leaving you with 26 hrs 15 mins.

Day 6: Saturday you use 8hrs 30 mins leaving you with 17 hrs 45 mins.

Day 7: Sunday you use 7 hrs 45 mins leaving you with 10 hrs.

Day 8: Monday you use 9 hrs leaving you with 1 hr.

At midnight between Monday/Tuesday you will get back the hours you used that Previous Monday. For Tuesday (Day 9) you will have 9hrs and 45 mins available to you. The 1 hour left from your original 70 plus the 8hrs and 45 mins you get back from your first day out.

Rick

Donna M.'s Comment
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Hey Rick u did an excellent job of explaining this. I feel that’s what he really needed was to understand his logs. It’s tough just starting out . It’s tough some days and I’ve been out here over two years. Then they give us new rules this year. But as a reefer driver I love the new 2 hour rule.

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

Jammer a's Comment
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Thanks man I will definitely use your advice to get the hang of this

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Yeah I know I’m real new to this I told him I didn’t want to run recaps because I run my clock down more often than not I got caught in the snow across Oregon and Washington shut down early a coupl times but that’s pretty much it I can’t believe how much I don’t know sometimes prewitt nm from Aurora co

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You run, what you need to run to get the job done.

Most E-Log systems will show what you have coming back at midnight, if you're running close to your 70. You get back the HOURS YOU RAN 7 days ago (technically - 8 days ago, because that is the day that FALLS OFF AT MIDNIGHT).

But your logging device should also have a recaps screen (haven't seen one in a number of years), that should show hours on duty for the previous days, and you can figure out what you have left THE NEXT DAY from there.

Most folks try to average around 9 hours a day (+/-) on duty time if they're running on pure recaps (no resets), so they can still get a near-full day of driving back.

Sometimes though - as in your situation, where you say you are only getting 3.5 back the next day, means you were only on duty 3.5 hour on the 7th previous day.

Gotta watch this stuff - or it will jam you up.

Here's an example from another users post a few years ago:

Recapping hours is referred to several ways. Recaps, 8th day drop, etc. Let's say you start on Monday with a fresh 70.

Day 1: Monday you use 8 hrs 45mins leaves you with 61 hrs 15 mins.

Day 2: Tuesday you use 7 hrs 45mins leaving you with 53 hrs 30 mins.

Day 3: Wednesday you use 9 hrs 30 mins leaving you with 44 hrs.

Day 4: Thursday you use 8 hrs 45 mins leaving you with 35 hrs 15 mins.

Day 5: Friday you use 9 hrs leaving you with 26 hrs 15 mins.

Day 6: Saturday you use 8hrs 30 mins leaving you with 17 hrs 45 mins.

Day 7: Sunday you use 7 hrs 45 mins leaving you with 10 hrs.

Day 8: Monday you use 9 hrs leaving you with 1 hr.

At midnight between Monday/Tuesday you will get back the hours you used that Previous Monday. For Tuesday (Day 9) you will have 9hrs and 45 mins available to you. The 1 hour left from your original 70 plus the 8hrs and 45 mins you get back from your first day out.

Rick

Ted P.'s Comment
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Running out of hours is a responsibility of every driver, IF you run on 8.75 hour days totally daily you will never run out of hours... save your hours as much as possible even when you first start off, I know once you start your hours the 14 hour clock doesn't stop, but your 70 does... so utilize the line 1 option just remember to put yourself on line 4 before going out driving again and flag or identify as a "tire check". not including the first INS, befor you drive beginning your hours...

Delivering on the 21 st in Aurora co I’m running on recaps can’t find somewhere to park till delivering very date and I’m only gonna get 3.5 hours back on the 21st 🤨🤨🤨got another appointment the next day in New Mexico wasn’t my idea but got stuck with it any way frustrated lol

Donna M.'s Comment
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With the new rules one can stop their 14 hour clock with a 2/8 or 3/7.

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